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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:17 AM
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Bush told Limbaugh to make fun of MJFox
Wasn't Limbaugh in Washington meeting with the ass in chief to rile up support for the failing party?

This must be what he took away from that meeting. Make fun of a man with a disease. Mock him, imitate him, show no empathy.

It's just their playbook. How sad, and disgusting is that?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:19 AM
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1. This is the sort of post that makes DUers look like a bunch of tinfoil
crackpots.

:eyes:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:23 AM
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2. Listen, I am only associating here. He met with him for strategy
reasons.

And this is what Rush does. Mocks a man with a disease.

I'm sure the idiot in chief did not tell him directly to do this. But he gave that ass limbaugh the time of day by meeting with him.

Now don't ever call me a crack pot again.

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:27 AM
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5. Hey, I didn't call you a crackpot.
I said posts like this end up getting DUers painted as crackpots. Other people do read DU and they take posts like these and use them to smear the whole site as crackpot tinfoilers. It's happened before and it will happen again.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:33 AM
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8. You obviously missed the entire point of the post.
The President met with this man last week.

To get him to help with the elections.

He gave this man credibility.

It is only by association, not that he actually told the idiot to do it.

He told him to help and this is what Rush does.

I think it's an important point that Rush was just in Washington last week to help the president keep control of congress. That the president felt this was a man of such stature that he could change the course of the elections. and this is what Rush does.

Bush did not tell Limbaugh to do this, i agree. But he did raise his stature by having the idiot up to Washington last week. And in return he is just as much of an ass as Limbaugh. Get it?

My god, people read something and think they frickin know it all. Don't patronize me in this way again. Thank you.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:38 AM
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9. Woah, you are touchy.
All I'm saying is people like Rush take posts like yours and use them to mock DU. That's not patronizing you. That's stating a fact.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:41 AM
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11. did bush have the ass up to washington?????
to help him with the elections??????

If so then I think the association can be made.

Not that he told him to do this, but that Bush thinks this man can help him win elections.

Can you not atleast see that point.


It's not that difficult

And yes, it's 440 in the morning and I am up and a bit cranky. so don't push it.




;-)
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:08 AM
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21. Can I go out on a limb and say something?
Rush Limbaugh WON the 2004 election for Bush. I listened to Rush for about 3 months prior to Nov 2004. Rush has THOUSANDS of listeners - mostly republicans, but LOTS and LOTS of swayable independents. He is a master at spin, and was able to trash John Kerry beyond belief.
I know, you can say Diebold won the election for shrubbie, but in my opinion, if there HAD BEEN NO RUSH LIMBAUGH in 2004 (what a sweet thought!), we'd be saying "President Kerry will be re-elected" right now.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:42 AM
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12. Read post #10:
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:13 AM
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24. Oh fer Chrissake
Yes it is patronizing, it's patronizing as hell.

Own what you do.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:47 AM
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25. Yes you did - own up to it!
If you say someone's post makes DUers look like a bunch of crackpots, you are, quite clearly, calling the poster a crackpot. And isn't that against the rules? Name calling? Some try to get around that rule by the semantics of "Only a (insert insulting noun) would post like this, or talk like this, or think like this. But that's only one degree of separation, babe - and name calling with one degree of separation is still name calling.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:25 AM
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4. Are you sure? I thought all of the crackpots were on the N.J. decision
threads. :eyes:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:28 AM
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6. Oh yes, those have been very informative.
Such as the "Gay Agenda" isn't supposed to be offensive to me.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:24 AM
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3. Case closed: airtight argument
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:31 AM
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7. I think Limbaugh's record offers ample evidence that he's mean-spirited
enough without Bush's help.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:40 AM
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10. They had an emergency meeting with con talkies at the WH today...
...seriously. Supposedly, Bush wasn't there, but I'm sure Rove was...

Bush, Republicans turn to U.S. talk shows for help
Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:11am ET

By Andrea Hopkins

CINCINNATI, Oct 25 (Reuters) - American radio talk-show hosts have become frontline warriors in a drive by President George W. Bush and his Republicans to pull off a surprise and maintain control of Congress in Nov. 7 elections.

In the face of opinion polls favoring Democrats and bad news from Iraq, Bush turned to the powerful hosts of talk radio two weeks before Americans elect 435 representatives to the U.S. House and a third of the 100-member Senate.

On Tuesday the White House invited more than three dozen hosts from both sides of the political spectrum so they could interview top administration officials.
</snip>

I don't think it's :tinfoilhat: to assume that at this meeting they devised a "rebuttal" to the powerful MJF ad.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:48 AM
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14. Thanks Cooley! nt
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:51 AM
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15. When I heard about this yesterday, I had the same thought you did...
:hi:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:43 AM
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20. and of course the left has less money AND no real voice
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 04:43 AM by SoCalDem
on 24-7 radio (or TV) ..

How desperate must the right be..

they have double the money, 10 times the public exposure, and people still won't hungrily eat their shit sandwiches :)

This is what's so damned frustrating.

The right wingers have BAD ideas, tons of money and more exposure than a nudist in the church lobby...and they are still having a hard time selling it..

and we seem to have NO real money people (like Scaife/Murdoch)..

Can you even imagine how well we would be doing with equal time and money??

Where are our 47 "think tanks"?
Our Limbaughs?
Our rich benefactors?

Dean is trying his hardest, but I fear that we have taken too much for granted.

Good ideas still need to be sold..and it take smoney to do that..money and exposure


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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:44 AM
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13. Actually Keith Olbermann suggested something similar in his...
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 04:01 AM by Poll_Blind
...interview with Sam Sedar tonight. It's up at Crooks and Liars. Starting at 5 minutes 40 seconds into the interview. You can search on "Olbermann Gives Us The Visual To Limbaugh’s Attack On Michael J. Fox" jump right to it on the page.

Guess great minds think alike! :toast:

PB
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:17 AM
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17. Thanks PB, Klein almost says exactly what I said.
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 04:21 AM by MassDemm
He must be a major tinfoiler too.


KLEIN: And I got to say that, you know, for the vice president of the United States to legitimize a guy like Rush Limbaugh is every bit as bad as all those Democrats who went out to Las Vegas to kiss the ring of the Daily Kos and the left-wing bloggers


Now I'm off to hear/watch the video.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

But after re reading and watching it, I don't like how he refers to left wing bloggers, but my point was made as well.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:17 AM
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16. Well, KO semi jokingly suggested that Karl Rove

was somehow involved with Limpballs mean spirited attack in his interview with Sam Seder. But Sam said he thought that Rush was "off the reservation" with this one...

and I think that's correct. KKKarl isn't behind everything these idiots do. Besides, Karl's marching orders were to talk about terror and the "great" economy. Not about Iraq, and certainly not about stem cell stuff.

I think Limpballs went with it because he gets so exicited about prescription meds (being an addict himself).
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:24 AM
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18. Well to say he is off the reservation on this one means to me
that he doesn't want to be called a tinfoiler.

They guy went to washington, has all these connections, they raise him up like a radio king and he accidentally shits in their faces??

It all just seems like the old playbook to me. They don't know anything else. except to have it their way or the highway. Able to say anything with no one calling them on it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:28 AM
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19. Well, they did have "Open House for Talk Show Hosts" didn't they?
I have no doubt someone in the WH told Rush to try to counteract the MJFox ads. Rush just added the theatrics of mocking a disabled man on his own. Talent on loan from God and all that.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:51 AM
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22. In all likelihood, you're correct..........BUT
your statement is pure conjecture, without any concrete evidence to prove your claim. Let's stick to the facts because as we all know, "the facts have a definite Liberal bias" (thanks for that, Mr. Colbert). I'm not attacking you here, just saying that we don't need to muddy the waters with conjecture. They're muddied enough with the FACTS that Republicans are dirty, slimy, criminal low-lives that don't deserve to be in office. Fair enough? :)
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:02 AM
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23. Here's my problem - when the right says something like this... IT STICKS.
Like Vince Foster, etc. Somehow Dem's are actually put into the position of answering questions like, "have you stopped beating your wife."
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