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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:48 PM
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Why attack Michael J. Fox?
What really makes a person want to attack someone like Michael J Fox. What could it be in someone to make them act like that? I have now heard the comments from Rush now a few times, and I just don't understand where that comes from. Now I believe that it would be fair to say that he may have not taken his medication before he did the ad. Mike himself wrote in his book that he did that before he testified before Congress, to show what the ravages of the disease really are. I can see that he could have done that here, but that is the point of the ad. To really show what this disease does to people. I believe that the people that are really going after him would rather he just go away and shut up, or only appear on TV when you are heavily medicated so you won't make us uncomfortable. The response ad with Kurt Warner, Jeff Suppan, Jesus, and Raymond's wife, I have no problem with it. Just for the simple fact that they are espousing what they believe is true, not attacking Fox. Now what they are saying makes them sound aggressively stupid, and shows how misguided the whole thing is because of who that they picked to be in the ad, it is not a good response to what Fox had to say. You pick people that are in great physical condition, and that is supposed to be effective to a man who you want to stop jumping around, but cannot because of his disease. Rush's comments are not about the ad, they are about Fox himself. I believe that we are just about ten minutes away from Rush claiming that Fox gave himself the disease to help get people elected. I am just curious what would Rush have to say if Nancy Reagan had done this ad, would he have gone after her in the same way?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:53 PM
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1. 1. Rush is a no-good bastard. 2. Rush HATES anyone on the left.
For a person with so many flaws he has little room to point fingers.

He is a closed-minded coward with venom where his heart should be. Nothing is sacred in his warped mind.

He will suffer terribly one day because of his hatred of fellow humans beings. And I shall enjoy every minute of it.
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Greatwildbeast Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:39 PM
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37. At least half right
Rush may or may not actually hate liberals. He simply says what he says for the money and the love of hearing his own voice over the radio.

In his early days in broadcasting he had no clear political agenda at all. In fact for a short period he was known for promting a handicapped ramp somewhere. Help people with disabilities isn't a conservative value at all.

So he found his way to the right end of the spectrum shortly after the demise of the Fairness Doctrine and big money ruled the airwaves.

In fact simce he has made his claim to fame by bashing liberals to his moronic listeners one could reasonably assume that Rush may like the Libs.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:54 PM
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2. They're freepers. They're assholes.
What more is there to say?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:58 PM
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3. Pukes have been conditioned to reject truth and reality.
Michael's reality goes far beyond anything Pukes are permitted to comprehend, so their conditioned responses go beyond anything sane people can comprehend.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:00 PM
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4. It's a kind of sickness
in and of itself. The hatred slowly takes over their spirits (or souls) until there is nothing but blackness and anger. I don't know if there is a cure.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:02 PM
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5. That is the RW methodology
You can't attack what Fox is saying, so you try to destroy the messenger through any means possible.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:13 PM
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13. Absolutely! It was only a matter of time before they went too far.
It really doesn't shake me that they appeal to their hateful nature. I am delighted that they are turning off the independent voters. This is getting a lot of play in the national media. No matter how they spin Limbaugh's comments, its the visual of him mocking Fox that sticks in your memory. I just don't think that anyone other than a true Freeper would delight in such a performance.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:19 PM
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15. That is the part that bothers me the most
There is no substance to what he said. It is just an attack for the sake of attacking someone.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:02 PM
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6. That's a great question, mduffy
I sincerely hope Nancy will step up to the plate and blow Rush right out of the water.
She has a dog in this hunt too.
I imagine Rush would be back pedaling so fast he would leave skid marks!

:rofl:
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:13 PM
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12. Oh, please
The original Stepford wife wouldn't dare say anything against a Repuke. She supposedly said her life began the day she married RWR, even if she was preggers when she walked down the aisle.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:18 PM
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14. Actually Veg
She has come out and called on GWB to stop the ban on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:08 PM
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29. In many respects, Nancy Reagan is the antithesis of the "Stepford Wife"
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:09 PM by cryingshame
closer analogy might be Lady MacBeth.

But Nancy is NOT an obedient automaton.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:03 PM
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7. Because he's being effective - that's when they bring out the daggers.
They don't bother with anyone who isn't doing them harm.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:07 PM
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8. Rush is a bully. Bullies are cowards who pick on the weak. n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:10 PM
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9. Because he DARED offer opposition to a Republican. And because
Limbaugh is an asshole.

And, as post #7 said, because he's been damn effective. That's why they wasted no time with that jock/2nd rate actress ad.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:12 PM
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10. How much attention has it taken away from the issues?
Not to say attacking M Fox isn't an issue, but with scandals cropping up left and right....
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:12 PM
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11. As soon as republicans attack
they have lost the argument.

All they can do then is scream and interupt their opponent.

blahblahblahblah

they are so hamfisted it's hilarious
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:20 PM
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16. Cowards often attack those they perceive as weak to feel powerful. - n/t
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:20 PM
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17. Someone posted an excerpt from an article on Parkinson's
saying that Michael Fox HAD taken his meds when the commercial was filmed. When Michael doesn't take his meds, his body is very rigid and it's hard for him to move at all. The meds allow him to move but the movements are jerky.

At least that was my interpretation of the article.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:26 PM
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18. There is such a wide range of symptoms it really doesn't matter
I am a nurse and I have worked with people with Parkinson's and I have seen both sides of the spectrum. The bottom line to what I am saying is that Rush is just attacking Fox for no other reason but that he is an asshole and he is throwing some red meat to his listeners. There is no substance to his attack, it is just personal to someone who has done NOTHING to him or anyone else.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:17 PM
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33. Is there substance to ANY of Limpballs' attacks?
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:20 PM by TWriterD
Who hasn't he attacked? Seder summed it up very well on Countdown this evening. Limpballs may lose some listeners over this, but the rabid majority who thrive on the "red meat" will remain ever-faithful. They need the venom that Rush spews forth -- they can't function without it.

I think this is going to backfire BIG TIME and hopefully Talent will get his ass handed to him in Missouri. Evidently the same ad ran in Jersey and Kean denounced Rush's statements - wonder if Talent will do the same.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:33 PM
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19. Because he knows that McCaskill is right about stem cell research
So he has to resort to attacking Fox because he's an evil hollywood liburl.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:35 PM
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20. And ironically, Fox played the Reagan worshipping Republican back in
the day, on his old "Family Ties" show.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:47 PM
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21. It's Very Obvious
These people have nothing good to promote themselves so they attack. This one is absolutely going to backfire on them. Fox is too well liked by the majority and his disease is one that most families are affected with.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:47 PM
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22. Rush sees someone with a leg to stand on
and gets jealous, no matter how much that leg shakes.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:48 PM
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23. The same reason one would attack the victims of hurricane Katrina.
nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:49 PM
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24. That's what they've been doing now for over 15 years. It just
finally backfired on them.

You got to admit, 15 years is a good run.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:58 PM
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25. Simple. He's irrational.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:02 PM
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26. If they want to run an effective counter ad...
They should have a Parkinson's victim saying he opposes the research. That may be hard to find.

--IMM
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:05 PM
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27. "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:05 PM
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28. use character assassination to foster strife; strife to keep people from paying attention.
to what's in their best interests and everyone else's.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:10 PM
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30. he's perceived as "weak" due to his illness and his progressive persona
bullies reflexively pick on the weak.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:10 PM
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31. First off, he has no morals or shame
He's dedicated his life to "the cause" of Bushco. And the first rule of Bushco is loyalty.
The second rule is grab for yourself as much power and money as you can.

Now, I don't know how much power and or money Rush is being offered by the Bunnypants administration.

But one thing Rush does know. If Shrub loses Congress, he's toast and Rush along with him. Conyers is his number one enemy right now, but he can't attack him politically. Yet.

So, Rush is out trying to kill the stem-cell issue, which should be big for Dems and all those squishy middle roaders.

So far, it ain't working.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:16 PM
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32. He opened his mouth and spoke truth to power.
You know. He's a subversive whack job.

Where's Laura Ing. and her pathetic screed? Oh, I forgot. She's staying at some luxury hotel someplace safe.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:19 PM
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34. limbaugh and the entire rest of them are playing to their true idiot...
rube/springer-cam political base, this is well beyond frat & locker room humor even for political advantage...believe it!! this is who & what they are: pissy, eternal, insufferably mean spirited people; there's no way in hell you're going to convince me that when they are behind closed doors they speak with each other in just these sick & twisted forms & i'll bet you dollars to donuts that after Mehlman leaves the room they talk about him in similar off-colored terms though he's as smarmy as he is, he may likely enjoy being a sweaty boil in limbaugh's ass crack
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:23 PM
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35. it's quite simple, really
It changes the subject. Instead of the talk being about WHAT Fox is talking about. The subject becomes him, himself. And then it becomes Limbaugh vs. Fox. The media focus on that, instead of the substance of the ad.

Change the subject.

it works every time. Well, almost....
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:36 PM
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36. He'll attack a person because he can't attack an issue.
He probably has nothing to say about stem cell research--I don't think Rush gives a half a damn about the issues, and wouldn't look into it except to figure out which talking points would get his base riled up. But also, I suspect illness makes some conservatives uncomfortable--disability, too. The idea that there are people, good, decent, potentially hard-working people, who, through no fault of their own (because it sure is fun to blame the victim--no?)might actually require a safety net, or government assistance--the effort of a community, instead of that "rugged individualist", "pull yourself up by your own bootlaces" happy nonsense that lulls people into thinking things like Social Security, health care, and government funding in disease research, aren't necessary--makes conservatives wince. They ponder: Shouldn't...uh...God provide for them? Why the hell do tax dollars have to? Why can't issues just be simple? (And here is where the worst conservative sticks fingers into ear holes, and wishes the reality away.)

Michael J. Fox can afford health care--he was Marty McFly and Alex P Keaton, damnit, but that isn't a cure. His reality, of a body betraying him, is heavy, and the situation is hard to answer--if even someone like him, a successful, talented person, finds something he needs from the government, and articulates this argument on behalf of others as well--and dares to show his reality publically to make a statement--there's an affront to poor old conservative Rush. How dare he be made uncomfortable, you see. How dare he have to face an unpleasant reality that differs from ideology. Why should he ever have to feel, not sympathy, but empathy, for another, and see things from this other point of view?

He would prefer not to. And so he atacks the person who made him *feel* and maybe, even, have to *think*. How dare Fox be actually sick, and actually have a different opinion from Rush's own? How dare he twitch, and demonstrate his point?

Poor Rush--he needs an explanation: the symptoms are a part of the meds (try looking before you verbally leap), which have sometimes nasty sides. Perhaps something other than chemical medication could be used in the future. But of course dear Rush, even you should know, some meds could even make a man deaf, if overused. And how dreadful for one to be deprived of the sound of one's own voice?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:57 PM
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38. it's called desperation . . . and a losing cause extrordinaire . . .
Michael J. Fox is one of those celebrities who is pretty universally respected, if not beloved . . . he's come forward to talk about his debilitating illness and has worked tirelessly for more research to find a cure . . . he allows his symptoms to be filmed to educate other about the disease rather than hiding them from the public . . . and he's known as a good family man who's been married to the same woman for many years and raised a wonderful family . . .

picking on MJF is REALLY a losing cause, and the only explanation can be that the Repugs are indeed desperate . . . in a battle of wits with Rush Limbaugh, Fox is battling an unarmed opponent . . .
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:00 AM
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42. Yes. Plus, I do like the way
Michael J Fox carries himself, figuratively. He does not lash back at his verbal attacker, he merely lets the comments speak for themselves, which showcases self-esteem and class.
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:50 PM
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39. He attacked Fox for nothing more than attention and ratings.
He knew normal people would be outraged.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:52 PM
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40. Someone that will call a 12 year old girl a dog.
That's Rush Limbaugh for ya.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:53 PM
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41. because hes an incredible dumbass
He just gave a TON of free publicity to Claire McCaskill and Tammy Duckworth.

Thanks Rush.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:05 AM
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43. All Rush & thugs like him care about is MONEY.
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 12:08 AM by TheGoldenRule
Anyone who gets in the way of HIS or THEIR money and the gravy train they've been enjoying for 6 years, will be attacked, smeared, slandered and annihilated. If Rush & thugs like him think for a moment that public sympathy aka VOTES are going to be swayed by a Cindy Sheehan or a Katrina victim or a Michael J. Fox, then Rush & the rest of the thugs will viscously attack the person personally instead of the message being conveyed. A case of killing the messenger and ignoring the message.

Evil & Cruel doesn't begin to describe Rush & his fellow dirty rotten disgusting thugs. :puke:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:08 AM
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44. hillbilly heroin, like real heroin, makes you completely numb to everyone
and everything around you. heroin addicts are often the most cynical and scathing people on earth, spewing vile filth without even thinking about the damage they are doing. they don't care about anything or anyone. years and years of hillbilly heroin (oxycontin) abuse have left rush cold, jaded, heartless, unfeeling, and able to act as viciously as a ruthless murderer without feeling any remorse, empathy, sympathy, or humanity.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:06 AM
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45. ANYONE on the other side is painted as the devil incarnate.
For two reasons, one to discredit them and then to justify
the nasty tactics that will be used to punish them for speaking
the truth or opposing the repugs.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:57 AM
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46. Because you have no life of your own.
Nothing in your own life to feel good about, nothing worth spending your time and attention on, so you spend that time and attention attacking others so that you can feel superior.

He's a grade school bully with a microphone. He attracts an audience because American culture incubates bullies. It's the inescapable outcome of a culture wrapped up in self-indulgence and the glorification of "winning" by put-down.
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