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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:18 PM
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Why not settle for censuring Bush?
Impeaching him may be impossible, but censuring him will stain his administration just as bad as impeachment.

A lot of Liberals became dismayed when Nancy Pelosi promised that impeachment, but she didn't say anything about censuring Bush, now did she?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:20 PM
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1. impeach
After Janree 23rd we will have enought votes when we get majority back
to make the impeachment process work.
All you need is one Representative to get the proceedings in motion.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:21 PM
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2. I'll take serious INVESTIGATIONS, exposes, TRUTH telling
Censure him, throw a pie at him, tar and feather him ... WHATEVER. I'll take what I can get at this point.

And the same goes for Rover.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:23 PM
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3. I'd settle for making him sit in the corner
with a dunce hat on for the rest of his term.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:23 PM
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4. Throw the bums out. If not now, when? Has there ever been
anyone who deserved it more?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:23 PM
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5. Why not talk of impeaching or censuring until we know if dems win
congress and then hold investigations?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:44 PM
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6. Because...
1. He probably doesn't know the meaning of the word censure.

2. Even if he did know the meaning of the word, he won't care.

3. Censure isn't going to remove him, alter his ability to do whatever he thinks he wants to do, or slow him down.

Impeachment is the only way to go.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:59 PM
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7. Bush and Cheney's crimes require impeachment and removal
We are talking about very serious crimes. No administration before has so deliberately and systematically lied its way into a war that would not have received any support worth mentioning had the facts been known. This is no third rate burglary that was financed by a presidential re-election campaign, series of dirty tricks or other relatively small-scale abuses of the civil liberties of private citizens.

We are talking about war crimes. Bush ordered the invasion of a sovereign state based on facts that he knew to be false or, at best, did not know were true. They all turned out to be false. This was not a mistake. When someone said he "knew" Saddam had weapons of mass destruction or "knew" where they were or "knew" how much of what or "knew" about a reconstituted nuclear program in Iraq, they knew that didn't know any thing like that. They were lying.

Lying to the people to start an unjustified war has got to be the greatest betrayal of public trust imaginable. If that is not an impeachable offense, then nothing is.

Bush and Cheney have shredded the Bill of Rights and the right to be charged with a crime or released from custody under the false pretense of fighting a war against those who staged the September 11 attacks. Depending on the political climate, Mr. Bush either tell us that he will bring in Osama "dead or alive" or that he isn't worried about him.

Therefore, in addition to war crimes, Bush and Cheney should be impeached and removed from office for the NSA wire tapping program, which is a violation of the Fourth Amendment, and for incarcerating at least two American citizens without charges, a violation of the Sixth Amendment and of Article 1/Section 9 of the main body of the Constitution, and for employing torture in prison facilities operated at US taxpayer expense, which is a violation of the Eighth Amendment.

Speaking of torture, that is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and Convention against Torture, international treaties to which the United States is party.

Neither COngress nor any member of the executive branch, including Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney, is competent to declare waterboarding, a method of torture used by the Spanish Inquisition and its predecessors, to be anything other than torture. The Military Commissions Act is contrary to the laws of the United States and to US recognized treaties of international law and therefore without force. It cannot be used as a defense by Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and their lieutenants.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 06:29 PM
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15. Right on Jack Rabbit!
You said it.

:)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:02 PM
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8. I just want him shut out of his presidential pension /SS protection
and from any positive legacy! That will work for me!
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:08 PM
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9. Impeach the traitor n/t
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:23 PM
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10. Did the Repugs "settle" for censure against our great Bill Clinton?
'Nuff said.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:29 PM
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11. If we can take back Congress in two weeks...
...it is imperative that Bush and Cheney be removed as soon as possible. The continued survival of the America we know and love depends upon on this. And I am not trying to be dramatic either.

Don
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:30 PM
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12. I say we send him to Iraq.
I hear they've got lovely new hospitals and schools over there.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:32 PM
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13. 60 votes are needed to impeach Bush
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:39 PM
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14. "Censure" won't prevent him from pardoning his nest of traitors,
like Poppy did.
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