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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:54 PM
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Make It Plain
<1> " ‘Make it plain’ is the code that he used for us to bring him forward. He didn’t like a lot of icing and all that. Just, just plain." – Benjamin Karim
(Malcolm X: Make It Plain; Cheryll Greene; Viking; 1994; page 204)

I frequently quote Minister Malcolm X in my writings. Though I never had the opportunity to meet him, he was a major influence on my thinking as a youth. More, one of my close friends was associated with both Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr., in the 1960s, and in the decades of the ‘70s and ‘80s, I had the benefit of his insights on both men.

Today, younger Americans are able to get to know Malcolm by the wonderful movie by Spike Lee, and by the classic book with Alex Haley, The Autobiography of Malcolm X. There are more than one hundred books that provide information and opinions about him. And, while Malcolm himself had founded the newspaper "Muhammad Speaks" while he was a member of the Nation of Islam (aka "Black Muslims"), his most powerful form of communication was the spoken word.

Malcolm developed his skills for public speaking while taking part in debating classes in state prison. He fine-tuned them when he recruited for the NOI on street corners and in living rooms. Soon, he would become famous for his communication skills in larger public forums, including debates on television and on college campuses. By 1964, he was the second most popular public speaker at universities in the United States.

Recently, a friend on the Democratic Underground suggested that I submit an essay that examines some of Malcolm’s strengths as a communicator. I would suggest that people interested in this either read some of the books of his speeches, watch the film clips that are available, and find copies of some of his speeches which were made into a series of records in the late 1960s. I will include a list of my favorites at the end of this essay. Listening to Malcolm is a far more powerful experience than reading what anyone else says to describe his talents.

<2> "Very briefly: The usual pattern is, first, of a break away or departure from the local social order and context; next, a long, deep retreat inward and backward, as it were, in time, and inward, deep into the psyche; a chaotic series of encounters there, darkly terrifying experiences, and presently (if the victim is fortunate) encounters of a centering kind, fulfilling, harmonizing, giving new courage; and then finally, in such fortunate cases, a return journey of rebirth to life. And that is the universal formula also of the mythological hero journey, which I, in my own published work, had described as: 1) separation, 2) initiation, and 3) return: ‘A hero ventures forth from a world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are encountered and a decisive victory is won; the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man’."
(Myths to Live By; Joseph Campbell; Bantam Books; 1972; pages 208-9)

The above quote is from a 1970 speech that Joseph Campbell delivered in The Great Hall of The Cooper Union Forum in New York City. The name of the presentation was "Schizophrenia: The Inward Journey," and in it Campbell described the similarities between some types of psychotic breaks and the "hero’s journey" in mythology. I find it ironic when compared to a September 12, 1964 editorial in the Saturday Evening Post, which began, "If Malcolm X were not a Negro, his autobiography would be little more than a journal of abnormal psychology, and the story of a burglar, dope-pusher, addict and jailbird – with a family history of insanity – who acquires messianic delusions and sets forth to preach an upside-down religion of ‘brotherly’ hatred."

Malcolm’s father, Earl Little, was a hard-working, family-oriented man. He was a part-time minister, and a supporter of Marcus Garvey’s Pan-African Universal Negro Improvement Association. Malcolm’s eldest brother, Wilfred, has said, "People saw us as oddballs … Whites would refer to us as ‘those uppity niggers’ or ‘those smart niggers’ that live out south of town. In those days whenever a white person referred to you as a smart nigger, that was their way of saying this is someone you had to watch…" (Make It Plain; pg 19).

People did watch Earl Little. At one point, a Ku Klux Klan-type group burned the Little family’s home. When Earl continued to preach Garvey’s message, he was lynched. Malcolm’s mother was left with seven children in the Depression era. Eventually, she was hospitalized, and Malcolm went into a series of foster- and group homes, before eventually moving to Boston with a half-sister. There, he did become a hoodlum in much the manner as the Saturday Evening Post described. This resulted in his being sent to prison, where he was introduced to the teachings of Elijah Muhammad’s Nation of Islam.

At the time, the NOI had an estimated 400 members. When Malcolm was released from prison, and became Minister Malcolm X, he would build the organization to an estimated 40,000 members in 10 years. He was clearly the type of hero that Campbell described. Malcolm’s appeal at that time was primarily to those black Americans who live in the ghettos and the prisons. Malcolm became the public spokesperson for Elijah Muhammad, who, as historian John Henrik Clarke has said, "was the king to those who had no king, and he was the messiah to those who some people thought unworthy of a messiah."

But in 1963, Malcolm was "silenced" by Elijah, partly due to comments made after the murder of President John Kennedy. This would be the beginning of Malcolm’s second journey into the darkness. He would describe his experience as being "in a state of shock …. I felt as though something in nature had failed …. My head felt like it was bleeding inside. I felt like my brain was damaged." (The Autobiography of Malcolm X; Alex Haley; Ballentine; 1964; pages 309-11)

Malcolm would also say that he felt that the moon and the stars had shifted. He would journey to Mecca, and upon his return, would begin to teach orthodox Islam, and begin to become politically active, something the NOI had forbidden. Although the truth about his evolution in thinking was not as neat and tidy as what has become the Malcolm myth – for example, he had out-grown Elijah’s teaching that white people were "devils" by nature, as a result of his experience with several white journalists, teachers, and many students – it is true hat Malcolm X undertook two "hero’s journeys."

<3> "As Gandhi used to say: ‘God never occurs to you in person but always in action.’ And so does a special person manifest himself only in events which are of his making. But here we owe it to ourselves to ask what it may have been in his nature and in his background, in his childhood and in his youth, that fashioned him in such a way that he grew up to be one who would make history."
(Gandhi’s Truth; Erik Erikson; Norton; 1969; page 93)

People tend to interpret or gain meaning those "special persons" that Erikson speaks of in terms of themselves. Hence, black nationals see Malcolm in terms of black nationalism, while socialists will often point to his speeches to the Militant Labor Forum as evidence that Malcolm had begun to advocate socialism towards the end of his life. It also became common in the 1990s for some conservative critics of Malcolm to speak of his life in Freudian terms, including an unconscious search for a father-figure in Elijah Muhammad to replace the missing biological father.

I prefer to view Malcolm in another manner. Readers are probably familiar with Erik Erikson’s theory of human development taking place, in eight general stages. It is interesting to consider these stages as steps on a staircase to maturity, and to recognize that many of the issues we face on the lower steps will manifest themselves in new ways on each future step. Thus, in "Garvey, Lumumba, & Malcolm: Black Nationalists Separatists," (Third World Press; 1972) Shawna Maglangbayan notes that the popular belief that there were "three Malcolms: pre-NOI, in the NOI, and post-NOI" are in error; instead, she notes, there are two Malcolms – the unconscious Malcolm, then the conscious Malcolm. (page 69)

Alex Haley wrote about the notes Malcolm scribbled on napkins when they worked on his autobiography. On page 396, Haley quotes this: "Only persons really changed history those who changed men’s thinking about themselves. Hitler as well as Jesus, Stalin as well as Buddha…" Clearly, Malcolm understood that the evolution of human beings is the evolution of their consciousness, and that a person’s consciousness cannot evolve unconsciously.

<4> "Yes, I’m an extremist. The black race here in North America is in extremely bad condition. You show me a black man who isn’t an extremist, and I’ll show you one who needs psychiatric attention." – Malcolm

Malcolm’s experiences as a hoodlum, along with his observations while incarcerated, taught him that human beings who are oppressed begin to consciously adjust to that oppression. As they adjust, they begin to accept the system of oppression. Soon, they begin to accommodate that system in unconscious behaviors. Those behaviors entrench them in a manner that they become unconscious cogs in the system.

In a February 25, 1965 interview in the Village Voice, Marlene Nadle asked Malcolm about how he planned to organize people for grassroots political activism? "I’m going to create an awareness of what has been done to them. This awareness will produce an abundance of enery, both negative and positive, that can be channeled constructively … The greatest mistake of the movement has been trying to organize a sleeping people around specific goals. You have to wake people up first, then you’ll get action."

He went on to say that people had to become conscious of "their humanity, to their own worth, and to their heritage." When people become conscious of their human worth, they choose to behave differently. They no longer will accept being an unconscious cog in the oppressive machine. They will make a conscious choice to become part of a solution to their problems. Malcolm knew that in order for people to do more, they had to become more.

In "The Fire Next Time" (Dell; 1962), James Baldwin noted that Elijah’s NOI was "not an overnight sensation." It was Malcolm’s ministry that made the organization grow. "And now, suddenly, people who have never before been able to hear this message hear it, and believe it, andare changed. Elijah Muhammad has been able to do what generations of welfare workers and committees and resolutions and reports and housing projects and playgrounds have failed to do: to heal and redeem drunkards and junkies, to convert people who have come out of prison and to keep them out, to make men chaste and women virtuous, and to invest both the male and female with a pride and a serenity that hang out about them like an unfailing light. He has done things, which our Christian church has spectacularly failed to do." (page 72)

Two decades ago, I worked next to the director of an upstate NY drug abuse services. He told me that "in the old days," when he and his co-workers in NYC had extremely difficult cases, they would ask Malcolm’s people to assist them. He said that the NOI could work miracles with the most difficult of cases. "There is no shame in saying that you used to be a drunk," Malcolm often said. "But there is shame in remaining a drunk." He would tell audiences that vices like drugs, gambling, and prostitution were "social novocaine" that kept they unconscious of their oppression. "You sit there feeling no pain. Still that blood is dripping down your jar," he would say.

<5> "You came to America on a slave ship, in chains like a horse or a cow or a chicken." – Malcolm
(Malcolm X: Speeches at Harvard; Archie Epps; Paragon House; 1991; page 58)

Malcolm was a master at communicating, in large part for two closely related reasons: he loved books, and he loved words. "People don’t realize how a man’s whole life can be changed by one book," he told Alex Haley. He mentioned one in particular, "The Loom of Language." "Philology, it’s a tough science – all about how words can be recognized, no matter where you find them. ….Philology is related to the science of etymology, dealing in root words. I dabble in both of them" (page 400)

Malcolm was interested in the methods that Aesop used to teach. He learned that "Aesop" was the name the Greeks called an Egyptian slave, who –like Jesus—was able to challenge the social order by means of parables. Malcolm began to use the animal imagery that is associated with Aesop’s "fables." "The white man in America is a wolf and the Negro is nothing but a sheep," is but one example.

He would also make reference to Shakespeare: "There was another man back in history whom I read about once, an old friend of mine whose name was Hamlet, who confronted, in a sense, the same thing our people are confronting here in America," he told students at Harvard University on December 16, 1964. "Hamlet was debating ‘To be or not to be’ – that was the question. He was trying to decide whether it was ‘nobler in the mind to suffer --peacefully-- the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,’ or whether it was nobler ‘to take up arms’ and oppose them. I think his little soliloquy answers itself. As long as you sit around suffering the slings and arrows and are afraid to use some slings and arrows yourself, you’ll continue to suffer. The OAAU has come to the conclusion that it is time to take up whatever means necessary to bring these sufferings to a halt."

In "The Rhetoric of Malcolm X," (Columbia University Forum; 1966; page 9), John Illo notes that rhetoric is "poeticized logic, logic revised by the creative and critical imagination recalling original ideas. In the rhetoric of Malcolm X, as in all genuine rhetoric, figures correspond to the critical imagination restoring the original idea and to the conscience protesting the desecration of the idea. … Rhetoric, like revolution, is ‘a way of redefining reality’."

Archie Epps quoted historian Kenneth Burke, who noted that rhetorical naming of things and people helps create codes by which people judge the world around them. Malcolm understood that his use of rhetoric would also lead the media to use code words to define him. I think he enjoyed this.

Haley wrote of a reporter telling Malcolm that it was being said that he was the only black man in America who could start – or stop – a race riot. "I don’t know if I could start one. I don’t know if I’d want to stop one," he replied. "It was the kind of statement he relished making," Haley wrote. (page 403) When he appeared at the Philadelphia Convention Hall for a WCAU radio show, he was asked if he was "the man who has said, ‘All Negroes are angry and I am the angriest of all’; is that correct?" Haley writes, "Malcolm X said crisply, ‘That quote is correct!’ (and) the gathering crowd of bystanders stared at him, riveted." (page 404)

Malcolm was accused of advocating hatred and violence. "Concerning nonviolence: it is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law," he told a reporter. This was the type of statement that led the editors of Playboy to question if they should publish the interview Alex Haley did for their May, 1963 edition. In their introduction, they called him Elijah Muhammad’s "business manager, trouble shooter, prime minister, and heir apparent ….. (who) spoke with candor and … the impersonal tone of a self-assured corporation executive. Many will be shocked by what he has to say; others will be outraged. "

Malcolm’s rhetoric frightened many white people. He even made some black people uncomfortable. With the advantage of 20-20 hindsight, we know that this fear was misplaced.

<6> "Many will ask what Harlem finds to honor in this stormy, controversial and bold young captain – and we will smile …. They will say he is of hate – a fanatic, a racist – who can only bring evil to the cause for which you struggle! And we will answer and say unto them: Did you ever talk to Brother Malcolm? Did you ever touch him, or have him smile at you? Did he ever really do a mean thing? Was he ever himself associated with violence or any public disturbance? For if you did you would know him. And if you knew him you would know why we must honor him: Malcolm was our manhood, our living, black manhood! This was his meaning to his people. And, in honoring him, we honor the best in ourselves …"
--Ossie Davis; Eulogy at Malcolm X’s funeral

After the split with the NOI, Malcolm began to organize black people for political action. "He began in late 1963 to work with me – attending meetings in my political club and being seen with me out on the street. He helped me register voters and make telephone calls. In Albany, people were wondering, ‘Who is this guy, Percy Sutton, bringing in that revolutionary Malcolm X?’ But that was the first thought. Then came the conservative Republicans and conservative Democrats who wanted to take a picture with Minister Malcolm, wanted to shake his hand. He was a celebrity," NY Assemblyman Sutton says on page 168 of "Make It Plain." (On the opposite page is a photo of Sutton and Charles Rangel flanking Malcolm on the steps of the NYS Assembly, with a crowd of 50+ spectators watching.) Malcolm also began to work closely with Representative Adam Clayton Powell.

Less well known is that Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr., were beginning to communicate, though indirectly. Their communications were largely through an attorney in Chicago. It is certain that Martin had become impressed with Malcolm’s attempts to make "civil rights," which he saw as limited to a domestic issue, into a "human rights" issue to be considered at the United Nations. On his international travels, Malcolm had been making progress on this front. In doing so, he became a concern for people within the Johnson administration. In his last year of life, for example, there came a time when he was denied entry into France.

Malcolm knew that this was something beyond the influence of Elijah Muhammad. Still, he was under intense pressure from an on-going struggle with the NOI. He was aware that the NOI leadership was urging members to kill him. Shortly before his death, his house was burned by NOI forces. Yet during this final stage of his life, Malcolm delivered the word.

On a January 19, 1965 radio interview, he was asked his opinion of integration and intermarriage? "I believe in recognizing every human being as a human being – neither white, black, brown or red; and when you are dealing with humanity as a family there’s no question of integration or intermarriage. It’s just one human being marrying another human being, or one human being living around and with another human being."

At a February, 1965 OAAU meeting, a man challenged Malcolm on his changing his position on white people. "I just see things on a broader scale. We nationalists used to think we were militant. We were just dogmatic. It didn’t bring us anything. …. If you attack (a man) because he is white, you give him no out. He can’t stop being white. We’ve got to give the man a chance. … We’ve got to be more flexible."

One of the last things Malcolm told Alex Haley was, "The young whites, and blacks, too, are the only hope America has. The rest of us have always been living in a lie."

(Note: Xenon has a 1 hour film, "Malcolm X: El Hajj Malik El Shabazz," that features some good segments of Malcolm’s public speaking. Charisma Records has four of Malcolm’s speeches on LPs; these include "A Message to the Grass Roots"; "Ballots or Bullets"; "The Blue-Eyed White Man"; and the 2-LP "Last Message." Warner Bros. Has a soundtrack LP from Marvin Worth’s "Malcolm X" which features clips from several speeches.)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:08 PM
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1. And I thank you.
For frequently quoting Malcolm X. He was definitely inspiring. Actor Denzel Washington did a very good job in the movie of portraying Malcolm X for those of us that weren't around when he was alive. I still say he should have received an Oscar for that. I have several tapes of Malcolm X delivering his speeches and when I watch them, I always get chill bumps.

:hi:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:23 PM
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5. Denzel Washington ....
Played Stephen Biko in "Cry Freedom," Malcolm in "Malcolm X," And Rubin Carter in "The Hurricane." There are, of course, no coincidences in life. Rubin was friends with Malcolm, and became acquainted with Stephen when he was in South Africa for his first fight with Joe Ngidi. Rubin met with Stephen again a year later, in part due to the influence of Malcolm's international message. I always thought it was appropriate that Denzel played all three men.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 07:07 PM
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13. Oh yeah.
I saw Cry Freedom but I didn't see The Hurricane.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 07:52 PM
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14. I think that you
would enjoy watching "The Hurricane." Of course, I am not entirely objective in regard to that movie. But Denzel has said that it was his favorite role, too .... so it must be good.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:59 PM
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2. Good Stuff Here H20man
Impressive in its universality. It would be hard not to understand how prescient his words then are for today, "The greatest mistake of the movement has been trying to organize a sleeping people around specific goals. You have to wake people up first, then you’ll get action." The truth of this aparent to anyone who wonder why any person, even just one could contemplate voting for * and his cadre. Will it take some form of violence upon the American people, by our leaders, such as martial law, to wake them from their oblivion? For in the quote below, their are pairing of those who are viewed as good and bad, yet all of them helped shape some form of revolution or drastic change. The horrors of Hitler and Stalin stand out as despicable examples of what no human wants. Did we, or those oppressed, understand that before them? Is * a lesson for us, a confrontation with our shadow selves, a journey of our own which will inspire us either to stand up or shut up (thus becoming enablers of what we don't want)?

(Alex Haley wrote about the notes Malcolm scribbled on napkins when they worked on his autobiography. On page 396, Haley quotes this: "Only persons really changed history those who changed men’s thinking about themselves. Hitler as well as Jesus, Stalin as well as Buddha…" Clearly, Malcolm understood that the evolution of human beings is the evolution of their consciousness, and that a person’s consciousness cannot evolve unconsciously.)

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:27 PM
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6. "..despicable examples of what no human wants."
That is open to debate. That these are despicable examples of what no decent person wants, however, is not. But there are people within this administration, and many others around the globe, who lust for the same type of "power" as did those two examples.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 06:56 PM
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11. That Exception Is One Of The Real Tragedies Here
That there are despicables who do want the power and could care less about anything else.

*shadow government*
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:51 PM
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3. Doing My Civic Duty
with a kick.

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 06:11 PM
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10. Thank you for
the "kick."
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:04 PM
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4. Thanks for sharing this
Though we are all human beings, black people have had a distinct road to travel here in America. Malcolm X surely is one of the important persons marking the road.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:32 PM
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8. Yes.
It is always worth looking, in terms of empires, at the tribal peoples who are at the fringe of the empire. That is, generally, where the prophets come from. Malcolm brought a powerful message to all of the people of the United States.

And, of course, I sure do wish he were here today: I would LOVE to see him debate some of the Sean Hannitys and Bill O'Reillys.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:17 AM
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31. Well, he may have brought a message for the whole United States
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 09:53 AM by Annces
but when I read a little of one of his books, I could feel the hatred for white people, really and truly. Of course I know that hatred is often well deserved, but it is also dangerous and scary. And also you can't get to the top of a flight of stairs without going one step at a time. And he wanted to help black people raise themselves up. I don't think he was addressing his message to all people.

On edit - if God could come down and put all the white people, who won't own up to the plight of people of color in America, into a classroom with Malcolm teaching for a few years, maybe there would be some progress in their minds. But that isn't going to happen.

like these bozos - case in point
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:29 PM
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7. H2O, and the reason the government wanted him silenced was...?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:46 PM
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9. Malcolm X had
gotten a number of ambassadors from African nations interested in bringing the USA up on charges of human rights violations. While it would not have had a legal consequence, there were members of the Johnson administration who felt that it would have been damaging to this country's image. There are seval books that document this: two off the top of my head would be (1) The Assassination of Malcolm X; Breitman, Porter, and Smith; Pathfinder; 1976; especially pages 178-90; and (2) Malcolm X: the FBI File; David Gallen; Carroll & Graf; 1991.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 07:06 PM
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12. That was the best meal I've had in a long time.
Thank you, H2O Man. I devoured every word.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:33 PM
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15. Thanks for, among other things, reminding me of Erik Erikson. It's Been
a while since my Anthropology days.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:09 PM
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19. And Campbell.
Awesome post H20

recommended with honors!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:36 PM
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16. That is indeed a feast,
and I savored reading it.

I checked youtube.com for some video, and among other clips you can watch excerpts of Malcolm at Oxford University, including his reference to Hamlet:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UD1K_ssAvtk


Thank you.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:41 PM
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18. Even 40 years later,
the man's strength shows through the film clips. Later tonight, I'm planning to get out some of my old tapes of his speeches.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:58 PM
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20. My own impression
was of someone who had mastered not only the rhetorical elements, but the social ones as well, exhibited so graciously in his presentation in that setting.

And looking at Malcolm from the vantages of Joseph Campbell and Erik Erikson does him true credit and praise, and promulgates the values he spread in a way that's powerful in our present moment.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:36 PM
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17. A light with which to show us the path
As always.

K&R
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:29 AM
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21. wow. I feel like I am taking a history/sociology class.
Question though.

'Although the truth about his evolution in thinking was not as neat and tidy as what has become the Malcolm myth – for example, he had out-grown Elijah’s teaching that white people were "devils" by nature, as a result of his experience with several white journalists, teachers, and many students – it is true hat Malcolm X undertook two "hero’s journeys."'

What is the Malcolm myth here? Is the myth that Malcolm had out-grown the teaching that white people were 'devils' by nature? Or is the myth that he hadn't?

On this matter:
'Malcolm was accused of advocating hatred and violence. "Concerning nonviolence: it is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks..."'

The trouble with that is that hatred and violence are not just defensive. They become offensive and then his followers are the likely to engage in brutal attacks.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:47 AM
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22. One of the "myths"
that is told when recounting Malcolm's life is that he had hated white folks up until the trip to Mecca, which came just after the break with the NOI. That really isn't accurate. By the late 1950s, Malcolm had developed, if not friendships, then at very least mutual respect for many white people he knew on a personal level. This did not change his views on the system of exploitation in the USA. Instead, it gave him a greater appreciation for two things: first, systems, and second, the individual's ability to rise above the system.

The Hajj gave Malcolm the context to teach this insight, which was very different from Elijah's brand of Islam, to his followers. Malcolm was bringing mainstream Islam to his people. There was, of course, the ugly split between the subgroups that had been the NOI before Malcolm's leaving. The majority stayed with Elijah, rather than going with Malcolm. However, when Elijah died, his son Wallace, a close friend of Malcolm's, took the NOI in a progressive direction. He made it into the American Muslim Mission, and taught the Islamic faith in the context Malcolm had, post-1963.

It's interesting to note that Malcolm's top assistant, Benjamin Karim, would re-enter the group after Wallace took over. More, Muhammad Ali, theheavyweight champion who had split with Malcolm in 1964, would later call his turning his back on Malcolm as his greatest error in life. He now knows Malcolm was correct.

Louis Farrakhan continued the old NOI after Elijah's death.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:36 AM
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23. Just one of the many things I like about your posts
is that they always give me direction on how to get more information. I remember reading Malcolm's Autobiography for the first time and experiencing shock that it was so unlike what I had been told by teachers and the media growing up in that time. Think its time for a reread and I will certainly seek out Make it Plain.

Again, many thanks for posting here.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:05 AM
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25. One of my favorite
things about DU is that I find people mention and recommend a lot of great books. I read quite a bit, and I always appreciate the DUers suggestions. In turn, I try to mention some of the books that I believe are of value.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:42 AM
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24. America has promises to keep ... until it does we will continue
to reap what we sow.

Malcom's father was the victim of a lynching.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:27 AM
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26. Thank you, H20 Man.
Your post includes too many thought-provoking comments for me to even begin commenting on them, but I especially like this one: "He can’t stop being white. We’ve got to give the man a chance. … We’ve got to be more flexible."

Amen to that.

I think we would all do well to remember that the Serenity Prayer applies not just to our own circumstances, but to the circumstances of others. If there is something a person cannot change, then it is wise to accept that truth and let it be, yet offer a way and be an example for those things which a person does have within their power to change.


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:42 AM
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27. It is interesting hearing your comments on Malcolm X. It sounds
likes so many other brave men who spoke out for what was right,sane and just. They all seem to have this same thread in their lives. They are part of a system that becomes scared of them, and has them silenced. In the last presidential primaries. I heard a man speak loud and clearly about his dissent toward the direction of this country, and they labeled him nuts. This was Howard Dean. I bring up this comparison with Howard Dean, because that is how I have been introduced to Malcolm X via the media. That Malcolm X was nuts. Thanks for sharing this. I can't say that I would have went looking for this information, but I like what you write, so I usually read your posts. By the way my God Mother marched with Dr. Martin Luther King in Selma when she was pregnant with her twelve child.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:45 AM
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28. Thanks for this.
I think this country could use a few more militants.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:02 PM
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29. Reminds me that the great sin of the Nation of Islam wasn't the "Islam"
but the "Nation."

When blacks dared to consider themselves a nation unto themselves, the powers that be really got scared.

This is also why Bob Marley's philosophy had such resonance--he asked blacks to think and act like a diaspora, the way Jews always have.

If only more people could disentangle the philosophy from the religion...neither Islam nor Rastafarianism, nor Judaism or Christianity, can free the mind. Quite the opposite, IMHO.

Newsprism
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:17 PM
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30. What keeps ringing in my head is the importance of AWARENESS
before there can be any focus on issues.

Sounds like if the Dem party were schmardt, that's what they'd set about doing, eh?

There's so much here to digest, and I thank you immensely, but that's the part that is really jumping out at me right now. I think I was going down the right track with this.

I've bookmarked this, because this is going to take a lot of chewing on.

How does your head hold all this without exploding? :hi:

Thanks again! :applause:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:52 PM
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32. Very interesting
I read a biography of Malcolm X when I was in college (a long time ago), but I don't recall getting the perspective on him that you provide here.

Unfortunately, I don't have friends who were associated with great historical figures such as Malcolm X and MLK. That could be a very enlightening experience.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:03 PM
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33. What a gift this is. Just got here but wow, thank you. n/t
Malcom was on a journey to true greatness on a broad scale. The tragic theft of that potential
is just another of the contrivances of a false democracy in the minds of those who offend against
free speech and free, fair and inclusive elections.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:07 PM
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34. When I get angry with my generation for letting things slide so badly,
I remember all the assassinations, and wonder... is *that* why we didn't live up to our ideals?

So much death, so many losses....

:cry:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:15 PM
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35. Right, it was a planned disruption...what are the odds;)
Oh but it's just a coincidence that

JFK gets it when hes doing a serious reevaluation of our adventurous foreign policy;

MLK gets it when he merges the civil rights - anti war - lower classes justice movements;

RFK gets it when he wins the California Democratic primary and is on a roll to be the 1968
nominee;

Malsom X gets it when he broadens his vision to a supra racial one that is truly universal.


I blame the people who shot these people for EVERYTHING and still maintain that we're responsible. But look at that. Those were not just our "starters," they were all time Hall of Famers all on the field at once...nobody would stop them...well, nobody with a degree of respect for human life, ethics, and democracy...guess it was just one of those "coincidences" that so much hate was focused on these four and the rapid demise of the moderate left was accomplished thorugh three deaths (the first three).

:hi:

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:48 PM
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36. When Malcolm
went to the African heads of state, regarding bringing Uncle Same up on the issue of denying human rights to 22 million black citizens, he was told that one issue was the public bickering between the various civil rights groups. It was suggested that, if they were to conduct their affairs in a more mature manner, that it would help the Third World countries push the human rights abuses. This was, of course, at a time that Uncle Same was giving lip service to the concerns about South Africa.

Malcolm spoke to an attorney in Chicago, who relayed information to Martin. While others among the "Big Ten" in the Civil Rights movemet had been stung by Malcolm's sharp tongue, Martin did not share their suspicion of the now ex-NOI minister. And Martin understood the implications of what Malcolm was saying about the plight of American non-white citizens being not limited to civil rights -- which reduced their options as "minority" groups -- but rather that they were part of the world-wide struggle for human rights. If one reads or listens to the "A Time to Break Silence" (aka "Beyond Vietnam") speech by King, it is clearly international in approach.

There were feelers put out, and the chances of Malcolm and Martin actually meeting -- not in a photo-op like their one meeting in Washington -- and putting their heads together seemed good. The attorney's office was in contact with both, but both men had extremely busy schedules. Malcolm was in Africa a lot, for example. But the Chicago connection was real. I believe that Dick Gregory was playing a role, too, to some extent. (The attorney also worked for Elijah, who by that time had left Chicago.)

Different people have come up with a variety of theories on when it was decided that Malcolm would be killed. I find myself thinking of the March 4, 1968 Hoover memorandum, in which he wrote about the need to "prevent the coalition of militant black nationalist groups ....An effective coalition ... might be ... the beginning of a true black revolution. 2.Prevent the rise of a 'messiah' who could unify, and electrify, the militant black nationalist movement. Malcolm X might have been such a 'messiah' .... King could be a very real contender for this position should he abandon his supposed 'obedience' to 'white, liberal doctrines,' and embrace black nationalism..." I think the thought of Malcolm linking with Martin scared people. And those people saw it start in Selma, when Malcolm spoke to the students, and Mrs. King, while Martin was incarcerated.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:45 PM
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40. Is there ever any hope at all of bringing sanity and truth to this sick
nation?

I despair....

The Original Sin of the US is slavery and the genocide of the Indians.

Is there EVER going to be any hope that we can redeem our country???

:cry:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:51 PM
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41. Well, yes ....
there certainly is. As a matter of fact, we are doing a pretty good job now. When you think of all the negative forces at play today, I think that it is evident that there must be a whole lot of good going on, too .... or we would surely have gone under. But we haven't .... and we won't. Things are, to borrow a phrase from Sir Paul, "getting better all the time."

(I know, I know: "Can't get much worse." - John)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:15 PM
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44. I guess I"m on the other side of the fence, and don't see that hope.
I'm also not so sure we *aren't* "going under".

And will admit, that sometimes I wonder if that wouldn't be the best thing. Sometimes, people don't value something until they've lost it.

Well, "Sir Paul", I'm probably more with "John". ~gigglesnort~ Although, as bad as it gets, I think things can also get worse. There's certainly a lot of history to show that. :cry:

At any rate, I will hope that you are right in this instance!
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:12 PM
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37. This is a very important point
When one considers "what went wrong" with the various movements in the Sixties, or "why did it fail" type of analysis. Well this entirely elides over the brutal reality that it was less about improper strategies, internal bickering and/or incoherent aspirations as it was about the fact that the movement got the crapped kicked out of it, infiltrated and assassinated. There was no political space, quite the contrary.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:54 PM
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38. It's amazing how some people jump over the facts onto denial
I can't imagine how else to write a history of the 60's than by incorporating these murders.

You're right, murders, infiltrations, and well, I'll stop there ... but these were just devastating.

You think Mayor Daley would have gone after RFK like he did McCarthy. The bum had his goons
raid the hotel suite used as McCarthy's HQ. I don't think they would have dared to to that
to Bobbie Kennedy and if they had, I'm sure that there would have been some serious blow back.

Sad to think about it.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:02 PM
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39. Yes
and what we are touching upon is only the more noted examples. So many others of less acclaim.

An example:
On The Mall in DC during the Nixon admin there was a massive alternative energy and earth-homes demo that was set up and ready for public display, David Raitt (Bonnie's brother) was an organizer, all systems go. At this time the back-to-the-land movement was really kickin' up some dust. A limo with tinted windows pulled up and asked some of the organizers what was going on. They told the driver. The next day orders came down to shut the demo down and everything was to be dismantled. Nixon was in the limo.

There are countless stories out there.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:34 PM
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43. Please, tell these stories loud and clear to the younger ones here!!
According to them, all that's happening now is the fault of "BOOMERS"!

I'm so sick of all this divide and conquer crap among "our own", that I'm just ready to throw in the towel.

Let the younger ones take over then, and we boomers can quit trying, and let them see just what kind of trash they have to put up with.

Including death.

:cry:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:31 PM
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42. I wish you had been there to defend me on another thread,
getting badly dissed by younguns as being solely responsible for what is happening now, and the boomers letting it all happen.

There is so much rancor here, that I'm to the point of just giving it all up.

Thanks for this.... I wish your post was REQUIRED reading for all DUers, and that they took it to heart, rather than trashing their elders!!!

:cry:
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