FYI: Nancy Pelosi on '60 Minutes' at 6 pm CT, CBS.

[babylonsister]

Two Heartbeats Away
Sunday, Oct. 22 at 7 p.m. ET/PT

Nancy Pelosi could wind up as the House speaker if Democrats win a majority in the upcoming election, making her second in the line of succession to the presidency. Lesley Stahl reports.

[Greeby]

1. Two heartbeats?

They must both be Shrub's :evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

30. k

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31. k

[Justice Is Comin]

2. Thousand to one, she hammers home the 100 hours.

Hua !!!

[babylonsister]

4. Yes, that's what I'm thinking, too. Get the word out there. nt

[Subdivisions]

67. No mention at all...

[Justice Is Comin]

76. I'm dumbfounded by that.

It hasn't been on here yet. But what in the hell could have been more important to show change would be lightning fast?

She's going to do it. She's even got it broken down day by day.

She gets a free huge national audience and says nothing about it? What the hell is going on?

[babylonsister]

77. I watched that interview as more of an introduction to Pelosi.

They covered her family, background, and how she got where she is. She also got a few good digs in on the blivet, which never hurts. She was and is feisty!

[pat_k]

84. I suppose, if pledging to be derelict in her duty is "feisty"

WASHINGTON, Oct. 22 (UPI) -- U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged not to pursue impeachment of President George W. Bush if Democrats win the November election.

"Impeachment is off the table," said Pelosi in an interview aired Sunday on CBS "60 Minutes."

Asked if that was a pledge, Pelosi said it was.

"Yes, it is a pledge," she said. "Of course it is.". . .

By declaring her intent to betray our constitutional democracy and give Bush and Cheney cover for their crimes she may have accomplished the one thing everyone would have thought would be impossible: depress Democratic turnout.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

3. + the 1/2 billion that went missing in Iraq (S. Kroft). It's gonna be

fun tonight!

[babylonsister]

5. Thanks for that; I didn't read far enough down! nt

[I_Make_Mistakes]

8. I was glad you already posted it! I wanted to make sure that

everyone here watches. I think this an opportunity for Nancy to show she is not the Demon from Hell the RR and RW try make her out to be (actually, she is follower of JC)!

Fingers crossed, hope she deflates their demonic attempts!

[Gabi Hayes]

6. am I the only one who'd like to see as little of her as possible til

after the election?

the pugs are going APEshit trying to make her the symbol of all that is bad about dems, and EVERYTHING she does/says will be held up to ridicule, contumely, etc., and her words will be twisted into unrecognizability in an attempt to smear her in the most heinous ways

so....even when she does well, it's just fodder for the fascist propaganda machine.

thoughts?

[babylonsister]

7. The rethugs would do that to ANYONE in her position. Ignore

the bastids.
We, the Dems, finally get a nat'l forum, and you want us to not use it?

[Gabi Hayes]

9. she's the centerpiece, though. I'd rather they gave somebody else

the spotlight.

that's all

no need to add fuel to the propaganda fire

why do you think bush isn't being seen with hardly any candidates?

in my district our congressional candidate ties his opponent, Mark Kirk (the fricking assistant WHIP!), via word/deed/pictures to the chimp as if they were siamese twins. and this unknown is within 2 points of Kirk, in a stunning turn of events, and 14 points ahead with people who know who he (Seals) is.

this is what they're doing with Pelosi; they're smearing Tammy Duckworth here with her 'Pelosi connection', too. that's what the ads are all about with her. I see all the time now. really disgusting stuff

[seabeyond]

28. tell our dem to run and hide cause repugs are being mean?

fuck that shit. i say yea to her for putting face out there and speaking up, each and everytime, with each and everyone of our dems.

[aquart]

73. Thank you for your concern.

The more the Republicans yell "She's gonna investigate!" the more votes we'll get.

[Justice Is Comin]

11. This audience is huge. One of the most watched network programs

on television. At least I think it is, it used to be.

If she can impress that our first hundred hours in power is going to reverse the suffering the middle class and poor have had for the last six years, that is going to be mega huge for new votes.

Puts the republicans to shame. I'm almost sure, she'll proudly talk about it too.

[OzarkDem]

14. We don't need to let the GOP run our party for us

and once Dems have power again, the GOP and corporate news media will start trying to run the show for us. We really,really have to stand up to them and get used to ignoring their criticism.

[CatWoman]

10. you see that bitch, Leslie Stahl?

attacking Pelosi?

[mucifer]

12. wait til you see the interview before you judge.

I am glad they are doing a story on Darfur. Looks like a great episode.

[acmejack]

27. Nancy is very agile, she will hold her own.

Russert caught her off guard with his in your face aggressiveness. He personally assaulted her, it would have gotten him punched with most male legislators or Mary Landrieu for sure (or many other women)!

[babylonsister]

46. I thought it was a good interview; showed her feistiness and how

she's getting things done.

[aquart]

74. Yes. Is she trying to be the next Katie Couric?

[CatWoman]

13. they put the guy who ran a pizzeria in charge

:grr:

[nam78_two]

16. In charge of what?/nt

[CatWoman]

17. of weapons procurement

the guy is presently living in France, high on the hog.

[nam78_two]

20. jeebus-thanks/nt

[rodeodance]

24. oh, but he got two wks training in the US!

[mucifer]

15. that was lovely

[Gabi Hayes]

18. on now. real hit piece

LS: "YOU're one of the reasons we have to restore civility to the house!"



this is AMAZING.

very hard to stomach. like an ad from the RNC....wait a minute! that's what she's been playing.

carrying HEAVY water for the pugs:

"they're saying you're a cut and runner"

what do you say to a republican who says "you do not understand the serious nature of this threat. of the jihaddists?"

FFFFFFF HER!

[babylonsister]

33. Nah, Pelosi's doing fine, and so is the interview imo. nt

[Gabi Hayes]

51. she did OK, but the entire piece was set up to put her on the defensive

very snide comments, as well as idiotically disingenuous, like the one about "critics say" that, by keeping her 'troops' in lockstep, that she's increased the logjam in congress!!!!

I couldn't believe she said that. they can pass ANYthing they want. and they have, thanks to the LOCKSTEPPING, goosestepping republicans

Stahl should be ashamed of herself. I don't see how she can look at herself in the mirror when she shaves every morning

[babylonsister]

59. Stahl's a journalist, one of the few I respect. She did make some

snide comments I didn't think were necessary, like mentioning what Pelosi was wearing :eyes: but she has to act non-partisan so couldn't and wouldn't softball the whole interview. Pelosi handled the interview well, I thought.

[Gabi Hayes]

63. she didn't ask ONE non-combative question that I recall. there's

a difference between being a journalist, and being a water carrier

I've seen her do this too many times to so-called liberals, or critics of this administration, to believe in her being non-partisan

could be my own partisanship is clouding my vision, but I was astounded at the myriad examples of snarky, meanspirited, ad hominem little bits in there that could have been handled in a non-partisan way. WAY too many, from getting her hubby to say he picks out her wardrobe, to getting her daughter say she was a drill instructor (and tying that into her INSANE "critics say" bit about her reponsibility for making the congressional logjam worse), to the bit about the pork chops

that was a HIT PIECE

sorry. she didn't have put in all the garbage, but she did. that wasn't journalism

[babylonsister]

66. You say tomato, I say tomahto, let's call the whole thing off. nt

[Toucano]

79. "Here she is in Armani."

My eyes rolled out of my head!

[rodeodance]

19. listening (late)-----How could american gov be so lax?--Pent not want to

to talk.

[rodeodance]

22. suspects living outside of Iraq- building themselves villas, paris,

poland,

The other countries not helping to help the corruption including the UK and US!

[libnnc]

21. WTF is Leslie Stahl smoking?

How is calling shrub "incompetent" a personal attack?

Calling him a goat-fucking, shit sucking asshole...now THAT's a personal attack.

[Gabi Hayes]

26. are you PISSED, or what?

commenting on her at a fundraiser: ''not ONE porkchop on a stick...but TWO?'' WTF was THAT about? making cracks about her eating habits?

[libnnc]

29. seething...

:nuke:

[rodeodance]

47. she is not going LITE on Pelosi!!

[libnnc]

23. "She had not just ONE pork chop on a stick...

BUT TWO!!!"

Fuck you Stahl.

[babylonsister]

25. Here she is in Armani? Here she is in cowboy boots? WTF???

Would Stahl note that if she were interviewing a man?

[rodeodance]

32. Pelosi now.

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34. saying Pelosi is the point person for the Foley scandel

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35. k

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36. yo ho, Pelosi can smack George as well as anyone!

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37. Stahl giving nancy a rough time about calling George incompetant, etc.

[rodeodance]

41. she has downplayed her positons---liberal positions

[rodeodance]

43. but upplays IRAQ

[rodeodance]

44. stahl asking if war on terror is in Iraq. nancy says it is in Afghan.

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[leQ]

39. impeachment is off the table????

c'mon nancy, give us justice here.

[babylonsister]

49. Know when to hold them; now might not be the time to bring

that up, but I'll bet it's not forgotten. She's loaded for bear w/dimson.

[rodeodance]

57. gotta do it with honey

[pat_k]

88. Honey? With Fascists?

Sounds suspiciously like appeasement to me.

I'm probably misconstruing your post, but I don't consider "honey" to be of much use in the fight to rescue our Constitution.

Impeachment is the weapon we gave Congress to defend the Constitution against attacks from within the halls of power.

Like a cop pulling over a drunk driver to protect the public from harm, we can be businesslike, but the police wouldn't be much use to us if they followed http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061022-105000-9810r">Madam Pelosi's example (i.e., They wouldn't get any drunks off the road if they kept their distance and said "Gee, we'd better pretend we AREN'T pulling him over! No sirens now!")

What part of "Drunk with Power" don't our so-called leaders understand?

[pat_k]

82. We should find comfort in the the idea she is LYING???

[high density]

40. "Making them lame ducks is good enough for me"

Yeah that's just how the Republicans would treat us if we were in their position right now. :eyes:

[ThatsMyBarack]

42. Feel-Good Story of the Year!

On 60 Minutes, anyway....:toast:

[rodeodance]

45. Pelsosi is doing great.

[mucifer]

48. Sudan story now on 60 min

[acmejack]

50. I think she did a good job.

Appealing to women in general? People in the middle in particular. I thought she handled Leslie real well, Pelosi didn't get to be leader by being a wimp!

[rodeodance]

52. k

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53. k

[rodeodance]

54. she has raised almost as much money for Dems as Clintons.

[rodeodance]

56. "not let on repug attach go unanswered"--is her motto.

[rodeodance]

58. I like what I hear from Pelosi.

[mucifer]

55. they went into Darfur without permission of the government

and the US state dept told them it wasn't safe.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

60. So, on Darfur we learn the political arrangements of the

moral values party, co-existence with genocide.

[mucifer]

61. yup

[Freedom_from_Chains]

62. Talk about making one sick and ashamed to be an American

that story does it for one.

[applegrove]

64. Good for that doctor for laying it out there.

[Duppers]

65. DARFUR

If bush is willing to turn a blind eye to genocide in Darfur in order to gain intelligence info on Al Qaeda, then WHY the hell would they not think that he's willing to burn the US Constitution to do the same.

The ironic thing is that they ignore / do not act on the intelligence they get!

Republican are uninformed idiots!

[saltpoint]

68. 'Had the pleasure of watching the Pelosi segment tonight on 60 MINUTES.

I thought Stahl had too long an on-ramp with her questions, although by the last third or so, she hit a stride. She's at her best with hapless interviewees like Stephen Hadley, and less effective with stronger personalities like Pelosi.

Pelosi came off beautifully, IMO. Just terrific. Yes. Let this woman be the new Speaker of the House.

[babylonsister]

69. Thank you, O C. I thought Pelosi handled it well, and enjoyed

'meeting' her husband, kids, learning about her background. She's a scrapper!

[Subdivisions]

70. I don't want a pledge of no impeachment! I want those fuckingq

criminals to suffer the consequences of their actions! WTF?

So, basically, they all get away with what they've done, meanwhile I have to go to jail for having a quarter ounce of weed.

Bullshit.

[babylonsister]

72. Why would Pelosi show her cards now? She's as

pissed of at this admin as we are. Maybe now, right before an election, isn't the time to show those cards.

[Subdivisions]

78. She just pledged that there would be no impeachment! So,

are you saying that. despite the fact that she made that pledge on national TV on one of the most viewed shows, she will then dishonor that pledge and the Democrats right along with it?

[babylonsister]

80. I'm saying she doesn't have to 'stay the course'. I think we

get through the elections, and then talk. I'd not be opposed to some kind of campaign to let her know we will accept nothing less. But to go on nat'l tv and claim they're going right for the jugular might not be the smartest way to play this.

[pat_k]

86. Her "pledge" effectively exonerates Bush and Cheney

. . .I guess she http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2897349&mesg_id=2898885">really does want to be an "Accessory After the Fact" War Criminal.

[terrya]

89. Saying at this point that impeachment was on the table is a bad idea.

Hell...wait until the Democrats take power first.

Also...impeachment has to include both Bush AND Cheney.

She said nothing about launching investigations by the House. Remember, we'll now have control of committees. With subpoena power.

[saltpoint]

75. She is. I think she's going to be a huge success in her new role.

Of course we have to elect enough Democrats to the House for her to assume that role, but I think we're headed that way, and it will be a great lift this coming January when Dubya strides into the chamber for his State of the Union speech and Speaker of the House Pelosi is seated right behind him in full view of the American people.

Great post, babylonsister, as per your usual.

[shoopnyc]

71. Lesley was really screwed up!

[pat_k]

81. Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!!!

WASHINGTON, Oct. 22 (UPI) -- U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged not to pursue impeachment of President George W. Bush if Democrats win the November election.

"Impeachment is off the table," said Pelosi in an interview aired Sunday on CBS "60 Minutes."

Asked if that was a pledge, Pelosi said it was.

"Yes, it is a pledge," she said. "Of course it is.". . .

Why don't you just say it Nancy?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and be derelict in my duty to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear foreswear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will fail to take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully negligently and faithlessly discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

[Bluebear]

83. PLEASE. What she "pledges" to Lesley Stahl is of no import to me.

[pat_k]

85. Why? Do you assume she's lying and actually intends to impeach?

[Bluebear]

87. Lesley Stahl treated her like a hostile witness

Pelosi held her own. I think she did very well by herself for this interview. If we take Congress, we'll see what develops.