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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:39 AM
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Brzinski and AL HAIG on Wolfie dissing neocons and Bush!
Haig and B are speaking as a united front. Haig says his party was stolen. Alexander f*cking Haig????
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:40 AM
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1. Did I hear him right, stolen by ex-democrats? Wolfowitz et. al.
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 10:42 AM by spanone
That was Haig, by the way. Alex 'I'm in charge' Haig- - - he announced this when Reagan was shot...No Alex, you were not in charge.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:41 AM
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3. You know that Rove is a registered Democrat don't you?
:shrug:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:52 AM
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10. One way to get Dem campaign literature without having
to go to a lot of work.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:05 AM
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11. He registered as a Democrat during Nixon's term so he could infiltrate
the Democrats and find something to bring them down with. He has never changed his registration.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:39 AM
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12. I registered as a repuke
so I could vote for McCain in the 2000 puke primary. Didn't feel even a twinge of guilt. I wanted to stop the retarded chimp from having a shot at the WH. Then came South Carolina...

I loved what ZB said to Wolf about Bush being "excited" and hyper while giving that speech, and that he's so backed into a corner that he's using hyper patriotic rhetoric as his last refuge.
Wolf was a total shitwad when he tried to brand Haig a conspiracy theorist. Typical.


:patriot:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:45 AM
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5. It was my understanding from the beginning of all this nightmare
that the neoconservatives are former 'liberals' from the late '50s and '60s who felt we should have had far more international involvement (read as conquest) following WWII.

I've never particularly bought that, but that's what they claim.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:51 AM
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8. It's worth noting
that when Haig did the strange and unsettling "I'm in charge" bit, it was because he was concerned that a group from within the Reagan administration was attempting to take over control. While the old General has to be considered one of the republican gang of criminals, and has always been on the scarey side of the humanity, it is interesting to look at those he identifies as being dangerously right-wing.
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:40 AM
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2. Blasting the neocons and the Iraq War ! n/t
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 10:41 AM by peanutbrittle
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:43 AM
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4. all of our "conspiracy" theories gettin' validated
these days. It truly feels like la la land.
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Citizen Seattle Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:46 AM
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6. Seattle Neocons??
Wha...??
Haig just mentioned something about Seattle Dems and being part of Neocons. DId anyone catch that. I didn't catch it all and that little snipett caused me to blow my coffee all over the rug. huh?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:48 AM
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7. Finally telling the truth. It's the neo-con agenda.
Blitzer asked who are the neocons?

He named Wolfowitz and Pearle, and asked about Cheney, but missed Condi, Rummy, Bolton, Kristal, the rest.

So, if we finally admit, nationally, that the neocons stole the country, can we finally see how the lewinsky scandal was all about wresting power from the democrats just to activate the neocon power grab?

And if that's no longer a conspiracy theory, will we finally admit that the elections were rigged and 9/11 was Bush either letting it happen on purpose, or made it happen on purpose? LIHOP, MIHOP?

Will the Dems start using this language?

Will we finally deal with reality and get our troops home?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:52 AM
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9. Yes, it was stolen by those in our party who thought...
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 11:00 AM by originalpckelly
Stalin was the only thing wrong with communism. If you look at the history of all the neo-cons, they're all a bunch of commies. They even use the same techniques of media manipulation. They have basically done to our country as they did in all the other communist countries; they have subverted our constitution and changed our form of government by unconstitutional methods. They cloaked their motives in the religious-extremists, and their usually gullible nature.

People from our party went over theirs and called themselves neo-cons, but they were really Trotskyite communists.

Good riddance too, because communism and socialism are not at all concepts associated with true American liberalism. Simply from the perspective of separation of powers, socialism is wrong because it seeks to unify certain sectors of the economy with the government, and in the course of doing so it concentrates power in the hands of fewer people. Think of government and the economy like a system of checks and balances. The government does need to set standards for the industry (it is after all in the US Constitution) and companies pay taxes to the government. Each of the two different power structures keep the other in check.

Fascism is a form of socialism, just a type that lets companies take the lead instead of the government leading companies. That is in fact what those former commies are like as well. The Nazi were nationalistic socialists. (Hence the name National Socialist Party.)

The political spectrum is not a line, but a circle. Right and left unite and produce the same results.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:43 AM
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13. Great post.
While I knew some of this, your post was like a nice refresher class on the whole sordid history of the neocon movement with some great ideological distiction for clarification.
Thank you.

:)
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