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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:03 PM
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Roger STONE, master of disinformation: Repukes"driving yacht into tsunami"
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 04:07 PM by UTUSN
This would be Roger STONE, who in his salad days, toe sucker Dick MORRISed himself, getting outed for advertising for swinging couples, along with his wife Nikki. I've always suspected him and the "Cuban wife" of having been involved in setting up Dan RATHER. In the graphic Alex CASTELLANOS is just grouped with the lovely couple because of dirty-tricks expertise, to save space. Transcript from the bowtie-boy circus.

So: Is STONE 1) telling it like it is, 2) scaring the Repukes into turning-out, or 3) setting us us as we have been set up so many times before?



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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15303016/

Roger, welcome.

If anyone would know, it‘s you. Do you think Karl Rove knows something that we don‘t know?

ROGER STONE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, you know, I know Karl Rove very well. I‘ve know him since college. He is a very clever fellow, he‘s a very smart fellow, but I think this is whistling past the graveyard.

I‘m calling in today from Cleveland, and out here on business. And I must tell you, I‘m at ground zero of the Republican meltdown. I mean, between Congressman Bob Ney pleading guilty, Bob Taft‘s crony who managed state funds on trial here in Columbus, and Bob Taft presiding over the loss of 250,000 jobs in three years, the Republican party was already in a meltdown before Mark Foley came along, and the poor guy who suffers here I think is Mike DeWine.

CARLSON: That‘s—that‘s the way it seems. A front page “New York Times” piece today saying the Republican Party is all but written off.

DeWine‘s seat, unusual to see an incumbent written off like that. But it appears he‘s going to lose.

But back to Karl Rove for a sec, Rove is saying this—I‘ve heard him personally say it, that he believes Republicans are going to hold on to the House and the Senate. He‘s going to be proved right or wrong in three weeks. Why would he, one of the smartest people in politics, be telling people something that if it‘s wrong would be obvious to everyone that‘s wrong really soon?

STONE: Because it‘s message discipline. Karl‘s a very disciplined master of this particular game.

You certainly don‘t say to your own troop—you don‘t say to everybody who is working overtime to try to get Republicans, even moderate Republicans disenchanted with the war, or Evangelical Christians disgusted by the Mark Foley matter to come back and vote. Right now Republican vote is suppressed around the country. You don‘t dispirit your people by announcing, you know, I think we‘re in trouble in two weeks and we could lose both houses of the Congress.

Karl is far too disciplined for that. He‘s doing his job by remaining upbeat. But, I mean, any objective observer would have to look at these numbers across the country, Clay Shaw in Florida, you know, and numerous races that were thought to be leaning Republican now contentious.

CARLSON: Yes. I completely agree. I think you‘re absolutely right.

Interesting, though, that the Republicans, by the end of all this, it looks like they‘ll have about a $55 million advantage over the Democrats. Doesn‘t this kind of put to rest once and for all the lie, the myth that everyone repeats every season, that money is everything? You can have more money and still lose.

STONE: Well, what you‘re talking about is driving a yacht into a tsunami. It may be a very expensive yacht, but there‘s a tsunami coming. And I think that—that money at this point doesn‘t matter.

The Democrats are competitive on money. As long as Democrats have enough money to communicate in this atmosphere, they don‘t need to outspend the Republicans to win. They just have to spend their money wisely. And you‘re seeing more and more Democrats become competitive in races around the country where that shouldn‘t be the case.

CARLSON: Is there any scenario that you have heard of or have thought about for Republicans holding the House of Representatives?

STONE: Well, first of all, I think we should recognize that in politics two and a half weeks is a lifetime. And an international crisis, god forbid, terrorist attack on the country, or some new scandal, you know, maybe Harry Reid‘s land problems are more extensive than we think. I mean, you don‘t know what‘s going to happen in two and a half weeks, but if—as Nixon said the night of the 1960 election, “If the trend continues, I will lose.”

I think we are about to lose.

CARLSON: And what happened to Richard Nixon in 1960?

STONE: Well, he was very narrowly defeated.

CARLSON: He lost.

STONE: Or the election was stolen from him.

CARLSON: Right.

STONE: One—one or another. I don‘t expect this to be a photo finish, though. I just think that—you know, that there is—you know, there‘s a tsunami coming, as I say.

CARLSON: Roger Stone, one of the smartest people in politics.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:45 PM
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1. I don't know how they are going to rally their base, their base has eroded
beyond the point of rallying, it seems. I don't even think Rove can pull the old "Christian Conservative Base" canard anymore, they've actually even alienated the genuine among them.
All they've got left are the rich and the megachurches, and while the megachurch numbers are growing they are nowhere near the numbers of the rest of us.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:08 PM
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2. Oh, the Cuban wife's name is Nydia, not Nikki - a Google treasure trove
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http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

Longtime political operative and no stranger to dirty tricks. Worked for Chuck Colson in 1972 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (i.e. Nixon). Helped strategize for the Reagan presidential campaign and Arlen Specter's Senate campaign. Worked on Bob Dole and Donald Trump's unsuccessful presidential campaigns. Also appears to have been helping Al Sharpton's 2004 presidential campaign, for some reason.

In 1996, Roger and his wife Nydia purportedly placed an ad in Swing Fever magazine looking for single men and couples to join them in group sex. According to reporting in the National Enquirer and the Star, the copy proclaimed:


C-161,787-DC* INSATIABLE COUPLE
We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She's 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He's 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8" +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders. No fat people or smokers need respond. Send photo and phone. No photo, no response! We are interested in DC, VA, MD, NYC, Miami, and LA.

Copyright ©2006 Soylent Communications



http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4616/enq0213.html

Big time political strategist Roger Stone and his wife Nikki: The former Bob Dole adviser and his wife were swingers and The Vault was a favorite haunt.
"Roger and Nikki were our customers for a long time," Marini says. "They were heavy duty swingers and ran ads on the Internet and in many sex publications. They were heavy players."
Roger was one of the top advisers who urged Dole and other Republican politicians to emphasize family values and integrity.
"Regardless of his status in politics, Roger never came to the club in disguise," Marini recalls. "He looked like a Ken doll. He was tall, blond, handsome and muscular and his wife was curvaceous and very sexy. She would wear leather bras and tantalizing outfits and he would wear collars, chaps and a leather vest with no shirt underneath."
Then in 1996, an ENQUIRER investigation revealed that Roger and his wife frequented group sex clubs and engaged in group sex orgies. In two blockbuster articles, we published evidence, including a shocking ad the couple had placed in a swingers' magazine soliciting lovers for group sex, a handwritten note arranging a sexual encounter, and revealing photos from sex magazines of Roger and Nikki barechested.
Hours after The ENQUIRER story hit the stands, it was picked up by dailies around the country ? and Dole's campaign ended its association with Roger Stone.

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