Rumors on the Internets: ICRC preparing War Crimes Charges against B*sh?

[npincus]

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index839.htm

(and others in our gov't.)

The same site is reporting a related article that the B*sh Family just purchased an enormous property in Paraguay (nearly 100,00 acres) and THAT is true (Latin news link here: http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7bEBA55617-2676-4091-ABBC-20650EB6FEE1%7d&language=EN). This would be very interesting, to say the least, IF true.


Kremlin sources are reporting today that the International Committee of the Red Cross, based in Switzerland, has opened a War Crimes Portfolio charging the United States President, Vice President, Defense Secretary, United States Military Commanders and the majority of United States Senators and Congressmen with ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ over what the United Nations has declared as an ‘illegal’ war in the Middle Eastern Country of Iraq, and where the innocent civilian death toll is nearing 30,000.

This is reported to be only the second time in the International Committee of the Red Cross’s history where a War Crimes Portfolio has been opened against the Civilian and Military Leadership of a sovereign country, with the first being opened in 1943 against the Nazi German Empire and its Chancellor, Adolph Hitler, and various other civilian and military leaders of that country.

The specific ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ that these Americans are being charged with are violations of the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, specifically Articles 3 and 4 which state:

[bdamomma]

1. I have my fingers crossed that someone out there

will press charges on these criminals.

[Andrea]

2. Is there any way to verify this? n/t

[EFerrari]

3. Too good to be true.

:(

[spanone]

4. Now these are the kind of rumors I like!

[MrCoffee]

5. The Red Cross? You've got to be kidding...

the Red Cross is an independent, NEUTRAL organization that only does humanitarian assistance and aid. What on earth would they be doing drafting charges of war crimes against anybody?

The most i can see them doing is documentation. No way the ICRC gets involved with any sort of prosecution/enforcement of the Geneva Conventions. No way.

[TrogL]

25. The Red Cross is charged with administering the Geneva Convention

[ProgressiveEconomist]

26. If the report in the OP is accurate, the name Alain Aeschlimann may be

an important keyword for googling. He's in charge of the Protection Division of the ICRC.

Page 87 of the following document (700k PDF) deals with the basis in international law for the ICRC's visits to detainees.

From http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/review-857-p83/$File/irrc_857_Aeschelimann.pdf :

"Protection of detainees: ICRC action behind bars

Alain Aeschlimann*

Review of the International Committee of the Red Cross; Volume 87 Number 857; March 2005

Alain Aeschlimann is the head of the Central Tracing Agency and Protection Division of the International Committee of the Red Cross

Abstract

The author describes the history and the premises and characteristics of the action of the ICRC in favour of persons deprived of liberty...."

[The Count]

29. Elizabeth Dole's Red Cross? Bwa-ha-ha!

Sorry, nice story, though.

[MADem]

6. I think the Monkey bought that land because no matter what happens to

the ECONOMY....people will always need FOOD. It's a ranch/agricultural spread.

Food may become the new oil in the next phase of our lives. We were gluttonous with oil, we're gluttonous with food....there could come the day when a "buccaneer" is one hell of a price to pay for corn!

[rodeodance]

7. this group has the most evidence----for once I want this rumor to bear

some sweet fruit!

[Botany]

8. Please

From the web site linked to:

Sorcha Faal: The Final Secrets of the Apocalypse

[Pharaoh]

9. K&R Cause I hope it's true!

[NJCher]

10. typo?

That first article carries a date that is a year old.

That seems like pretty inhospitable territory for them but I'm sure they know something I don't.




Cher

[npincus]

17. this is linked from current article titled:

"US President Bush Makes Massive Land Purchase In Paraguay Ahead Of Expected War Crimes Charges" - dated Oct 15 2006(http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index955.htm).

Presumably, if B*sh has caught wind that he may be charged with War Crimes, he is preparing a safe sanctuary in Paraguay... sounds like fantasy, I know. But thems RUMORS on the Internets!

[originalpckelly]

11. "Sorcha Faal" means that this is bullshit.

Of that Congressman who heard people using air guns, and believed that there was a shooter in one of the House office buildings, she said that it was a coup attempt. Yeah, I believe that like I believe monkeys will fly out of my ass in five seconds.

[Botany]

19. Sorcha Faal work:

US Congressman Mark Foley, therefore, becomes yet another member of the American
coup forces targeted for elimination by President Bush, and joins similar American political
officials holding dual Israeli/American citizenship and that are being targeted by American
counter-coup forces as being responsible for the 9/11 attacks, such as longtime US Senators
Joseph Lieberman and George Allen, both of whom appear to be losing their offices of power
during the coming November elections in the United States.

[wtmusic]

20. S'okay...it's been vetted by Doug Thompson nt

[KoKo]

12. Rumors are good in this case....

because they focus attention on the truth ...We violated Geneva Conventions and it's gone badly and we need to be stopped before we do it again. :-(

[wtmusic]

13. Source is highly questionable

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/sorcha.htm

[The Cleaner]

14. The Military Commissions Act was mainly to shield Bush Admin & Congress

from war crimes.

Why were McCain & Graham initially so against Bush's plan to rewrite Geneva, then all of a sudden they give Bush everything he wants - and furthermore, to continue to allow torture, which they so strenuously opposed? Why did McCain look like a deer in the headlights after he announced the phony "compromise" with the White House?

It's simple. *Somebody* explained to them that if they don't push this through NOW, while we still have Repubs in congress, they could be tried for war crimes. In that bill Bush signed this morning, it specifically and RETROACTIVELY shields ALL American officials of war crimes.

This bill is basically to save their asses. But the question remains. Does U.S. law trump international law in a case like this?

[elehhhhna]

21. Answer: No. Congress may not pass any bill which violates

US-signed International Treaties.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. You know the image and thought that crossed my mind?

I see all these indictments start coming down at a time when these Congressmen, President and President's staff no longer hold powerful positions in this country and the flash that came through my mind was, "We're not going to fight for you."

[stubtoe]

16. This report has been picked up by Enviromentalists Against War:

Although I couldn't find any reference to a War Crimes Portfolio against the US on the ICRC website, I DID find this at Environmentalists Against War:

"Red Cross Concerns over Prisoner Treatment

"The impetus for the starting of this War Crimes Portfolio, according to these reports, was the United States continued torture of Prisoners of War, and to which the International Red Cross had previously made a rare public comment about their concerns, and as we can read as reported by the United Press International News Service in their article titled "Gitmo hunger strike worries Red Cross" ...

More at Link: http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/read.php?itemid=3291

[BelgianMadCow]

18. Looks like they need a copy of the Lancet report though (600 k)

[progressoid]

22. Umm, excuse me, but that site is full of drivel and falderal.

Don't waste your time.

[lovuian]

23. No Matter where they go they will be found

Paraguay will turn them over and take their money...

[shance]

24. Crimes against humanity

658,000 people of Iraq have been killed.

Murdered.

American kids thrown into a death zone - lives forever damaged/broken

Why?

[gordianot]

27. I would like to volunteer a few Repuke relatives for charges.

I would also like to buy them a plane ticket so they can follow Neo-Cons in exile.

[Maven]

28. Can anyone say, "universal jurisdiction?"

Repeat after me. :evilgrin: