The Betrayal of America

[H2O Man]

"In our comprehensive reviewing of published, academically accepted history we continually explore for the invisible power structure behind the visible kings, prime ministers, czars, emperors, presidents, and other official head men, as well as for the underlying, hidden causes of individual wars and the long, drawn-out campaigns not disclosed by the widely published and popularly accepted causes of these wars."
--R. Buckminster Fuller

In recent weeks, it has become obvious that as a result of the utter failure of President Bush's attempts to promote his "stay the course" policy in Iraq, that another group of powerful Americans are engaged in an effort to sell a "kinder and gentler" military strategy. During the 2004 "Plame Threads" on the Democratic Underground, I had quoted from retired US Air Force Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty's book "JFK," in which he noted a group that Churchill called the "High Cabal," and which Fuller referred to as the "invisible power structure." I had mentioned James Baker as a member of that power elite, who -- like W. Averell Harriman a generation before him -- would step out from behind that invisible curtain from time to time.

It was Baker who came forward to "undermine the Constitution and chose our president" in 2000, as documented in Vincent Bugliosi's classic "The Betrayal of America." Baker took actions that resulted in the man elected president, Al Gore, being denied the highest office in the land, because he knew that George W. Bush was fronting for that High Cabal. What Baker did was indeed part of a process that betrayed the citizens, the history, and the Constituion of this country. But he did not do it alone: Baker's anti-democratic actions were given the stamp of approval by the US Supreme Court in a ruling that, as Bugliosi showed, had no justification in law.

Today, as we come closer to the mid-term elections, we see Baker again stepping out from behind that invisible curtain, in an attempt to coordinate the effort to redefine the highly unpopular war of aggression in Iraq. When such efforts take place, the power elite uses a tactic called "perception management," which I have discussed in previous essays. It can perhaps be most easily summed up with a quote from Minister Malcolm X: "If you listen to what they tell you, you'll be carrying an umbrella on a sunny day, and getting soaked when it's raining."

A significant part of the perception management campaign is found in "State of Denial," by Bob Woodward. This book mixes large amounts of the truth, such as the fact that the US is losing the war in Iraq and that the administration is lying to the public about this, with doses of lies about how we can turn this losing effort around by simply changing military tactics. The truth is that neither the problem nor the solution lies in the military. The invasion of Iraq was based on lies, and no amount of fire power can change that. We need to get out of Iraq.

The majority of Americans want the US to end its occupation of Iraq. This is why, for example, Ned Lamont kicked Joe Lieberman's behind in the democratic primary. It wasn't because of Lieberman's policies on education or the environment. It was because he was an administration lap dog on the war in Iraq. But when the power elite sees that a poodle like Lieberman is in trouble, they try to shift the focus. They try to find another lap dog that might be more acceptable to the public.

Last night, I watched Jim Baker and his trusty lap dog Lee Hamilton on Hardball on MSNBC. These two are heading the US Institute for Peace's Iraq Study Group. I listened to Lee say that they have talked to everyone possible about resolving the conflict in Iraq. And I thought that I should remind people why it is never safe to listen to Lee Hamilton if one is hoping for the truth.

I need not concentrate on his role in the 9/11 Commission. If anyone believes that this commission revealed the truth, I believe they are brain-dead. Instead, I will review Hamilton's betrayal of this country during the Iran-Contra era. Lee was the head of the House Intelligence Committee, and as such, was supposed to look at the evidence that the Reagan-Bush administration was violating federal law in re-supplying the contras. He showed his lack of integrity on August 11, 1986, when he went to the White House Situation Room with his buddy, Rep. Dick Cheney, to talk to Ollie North. Of course, North lied and said there was nothing illegal going on. Hamilton told the media that he was "fully satisfied" with North's responses.

Keep in mind that this was at a time when a democratic senator named John Kerry was beginning to investigate the idea that the administration was using the money from drug sales and illegal weapons sales to fund their wars in Central America. Hamilton did his best to disrupt any investigations into the cocaine sales. For example, when Costa Rica indicted John Hull for drug trafficing and arms smuggling (which was coordinated with the US embassy and CIA), Hamilton signed a letter threatening to end US economic aid unless the charges were dropped. Thanks, Lee.

Hamilton was also the head of the House Task Force that investigated the "October Surprise" of 1980. He allowed republicans to have veto power over democratic staff appointments, including that of the House Intelligence Affairs Committee Chief Spencer Oliver, who had first recommended the investigation. When Rep. Mervyn Dymally (D-CA) wrote a dissenting opinion that exposed Hamilton's 1-13-93 report, Hamilton told him that if he did not withdraw it, "I will have tocome down hard on you." And in fact, the next day Hamilton, as the new chair of the House International Offices Committee, fired all of Dymally's African subcommittee staff. Thanks, Lee.

Hamilton also was among the strongest advocates of the Reagan administration's attempts to expand domestic security laws. As the head of the CIA, George Bush had pushed for increasing government secrecy to combat "terrorists" who might compromise national security. No member of congress worked harder to help the Reagan-Bush attempts to deny US citizens information on the decisions being made by their elected officials than Lee Hamilton. Thus, David Broder wrote that Lee was the "conscience of Congress."

Is it any surprise that when the power elite feels the need to step out from behind that invisible curtain, they bring Lee Hamilton out to make their efforts seem more acceptable?

It's extremely important that democrats at the grass-roots level not this republican lap dog make it seem that the democratic anti-war effort embraces the James Baker/ Iraqi Study Group policy for "peace" in Iraq. I strongly urge people to write a simple, concise Letter to the Editor of your local newspapers, stating that you speak as one of the majority of Americans who wants the US to get out of Iraq.

[Turbineguy]

1. Thanks for that

rec.

[CatWoman]

2. I'd like to echo Turbineguy

:kick:

[H2O Man]

11. And I

thank you both!

[CatWoman]

20. No, thank you

your writings/threads reflect the heart and soul of DU

:hi:

[Dhalgren]

3. Excellent, as always! K&R!

[Greyhound]

4. K & R

for trying to give a glimpse behind the world that has been pulled over our eyes.:kick:

[immoderate]

5. Illuminating.

Lee Hamilton always is around when an apologist for the Republican cabal is needed.

--IMM

[H2O Man]

10. Yes, he has.

I recognize that "politics" is often the art of compromise. But Hamilton is compromised in a very different sense. I recommend that DUers read Robert Parry's books ("Secrecy & Privilege," and "Lost History") to get a clear picture of his true nature.

When Parry had provided Hamilton with solid leads on North's criminal activities, one of the congressman's aides told him, "Your story didn't check out. Congressman Hamilton had the choice of accepting the word of honorable men, or the word of your sources. It wasn't a close call." As it turned out, of course, Parry's sources were honest (though not honorable), and North had absolutely lied to Hamilton.

[Me.]

6. Delicious

I am thrilled to see an essay on the puppet master, another form of shadow government. I've been fascinated by Baker's emergence from behind curtain #2 and have been thinking they must be really worried about junior. They can't control him and his malfeasance is beginning to blow the gaff for all of them. Too many people are asking too many questions. I saw the interview and in a subtle way thought Baker threw junior under the bus. As for Hamilton, I find him even worse than Baker. At least with Baker you know what's what but a poodle in sheep's clothing is always more dangerous for they bite you when you least expect it. When I saw him on with Baker last night I thought this is even worse than I thought. Also I wonder if the Rendon group will be called in to pitch the conclusions of the new group.

As a side note, I want to repeat what I said in a different thread. A friend who is a headhunter spoke with a one star general the other day who is looking for a different line of work and she asked him how old he was. When he told her she said he was too close to the age of those who will be called up with the new draft. She told him that it's a done deal, a matter of when not if. Will this wake the people of this country up to how they've been betrayed? Will they finally get the rotten, stinking trick that has been played on them by the likes of Baker, Hamilton, LIeberman and all the other so called elites, they who for some misguided reason think they should be directing the lives of all of us with their lies of convenience?

*shadow government*

[H2O Man]

17. I have a guy

putting in a "new" bathroom upstairs for me. I've known him since we were 3 years old. We were close friends until about high school, when some differences in political/social beliefs took us in different directions. He had a career in the marines, and while he wasn't a republican per say, he was very conservative.

We've talked a lot in the past week, about the direction the country has gone in. He feels that the federal government has betrayed the Constitution, and all of the soldiers who are fighting a war for oil. Although he is not plugged in to any source of information besides the corporate media, he is convinced that there is going to be another front in the Bush/Cheney war in the Middle East.

[wordpix]

31. unfortunately, a draft is the only thing that will wake up the sheeple

I was around during the Vietnam era and the difference between then and now is the draft.

I went to the Chris Murphy(D)- Nancy Johnson (R-Pharma) debate for the 5th Congressional Dist. in CT last Saturday and there were a surprising number of young, college-age Johnson supporters. She has been in Congress for about 20 yrs. and supported every Bush budget and warmongering, illegal spy legislation Bush and the repukes want. I doubt if Nancy Pharma would be getting so much youth support if 18 y.o.'s and up were being drafted for the ReThuglican War in the ME.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

7. Thank you once again H2O Man for a great posting. K & R

:yourock: :yourock:

[leftchick]

8. one of your best yet H2O Man!

:thumbsup:

:)

[H2O Man]

16. I found watching

Baker and Hamilton to be unsettling. I try not to open my big mouth when I'm angry, but in this instance I thought it was important to. They pose the greatest threat to democracy that this nation faces.

[leftchick]

34. yes I know the feeling

I am also unsettled watching Woodward though not as much as the entrenched deflectors. This is a scary phase we have entered in our history and I do not think I have the stomach for it. :(

[Me.]

9. 2 More Things Relevant

to Baker & Hamilton. I read on DU yesterday that the Jersey Girls are asking for another 911 Commission. Good job Lee! You and Kean, whose idiot son thinks he should be a leader, did a smack up job of hiding the true facts and letting Zelikow be the gate keeper.

Just saw this on DU and wonder to the truth of it and how much is happening behind the scenes, how worried the high cabal may be in the process of becoming.

“Kremlin sources are reporting today that the International Committee of the Red Cross, based in Switzerland, has opened a War Crimes Portfolio charging the United States President, Vice President, Defense Secretary, United States Military Commanders and the majority of United States Senators and Congressmen with ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ over what the United Nations has declared as an ‘illegal’ war in the Middle Eastern Country of Iraq, and where the innocent civilian death toll is nearing 30,000.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2412565

Baker tried disputing the number of civilian deaths in that interview last night.

*shadow government*

[stop the bleeding]

12. these postings should be in a timely newsletter

I feel like I am back in Revolutionary times reading Thomas Paine's "Common Sense":thumbsup:

[Solly Mack]

13. I can't say Hamilton's name without spitting it out

And I can't say Baker's name without getting the taste of caca in my mouth

I enjoy anything that points out the corrupt nature that is Lee Hamilton.

[fooj]

14. Will it ever end? I just want my country back.

:patriot:

[KoKo]

15. K&R! ThumbsUp!

[troubleinwinter]

18. Thank you again, H2Oman. K&R!

[glitch]

19. This time the power elite must make a bigger sacrifice than Nixon-Agnew

to maintain their gains. Quite a few of their bots will have to be thrown under the bus to lull Americans back to sleep. And even that may not work, this time.

[H2O Man]

22. Interesting ....

I attended a meeting with a MoveOn.Org movie on Iraq, followed by a discussion. I said that while I liked parts of the Woodward book, I was concerned it was being used to try to push in a "new" strategy in the war. A guy sitting next to me made a comment that was almost word for word what you just wrote. (When I spoke to him afterward, I found out that he was a retired professor from the state university system.) I think a lot of us are thinking that this seems familiar.

[glitch]

30. Oh, that is interesting! Thanks for telling me. Deja Vu all over again.nt

[conscious evolution]

21. Great article

The pigs behind the curtain must hang!

[robertpaulsen]

23. Spot on, H2O Man! Have you read Larisa's latest article?

Just mentioned it because I found it interesting that you mentioned the connection Hamilton has to letting John Hull off the hook. There's some fascinating research on this thread:

Larisa Alexandrovna; Sr Congressman Met With Front Man For Arms Dealer
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2403598

[H2O Man]

24. Yes.

Thank you. I had read parts of that thread, and appreciate the link so I can read the rest. Pieces of a very big puzzle, eh?

[robertpaulsen]

28. Yes. I was not previously familiar with Gene Wheaton.

So I found his interview fascinating and quite disturbing. He is right about all of this Iran/Contra shit going back to Watergate, though if you get into Watergate then you're actually going back to the Bay of Pigs to be more precise. But overall, he definitely seems to understand the pieces of the puzzle more than most care to admit.

This is a real good read:

http://www.strategic-road.com/confid/archiv/special1102.htm

[leveymg]

44. Gene Wheaton's right about their insecurities, and what we have to do.

Wheaton concludes:

I’ve talked to judges and lawyers who have invited me in to talk to them. Some of them really patriotic concerned people. It turns them off, because it changes their entire life experience, and the reason that they have existed, and the things they have believed in all their life if you tell them this.

I have sat on the banks of the Potomac in restaurants with 75 and 80-year-old retired CIA people and retired generals, West Point graduates, honorable people ... these old men have sat with tears in their eyes and told me that, "Gene, what you’re into, you understand it more than we did, and it’s absolutely true, but it’s just so big you can’t do anything about it." I guess if I believed that, I’d go off to some South Sea island and drink a few Cuba Libres laying in the sand or something, but somebody has to keep charging in there, you know. The biggest chink in their armor – and it would take somebody smarter than me to figure out how to exploit it -- is their insecurity. They are afraid of a peasant with a pitchfork. And the reason they react so strongly and violently against anybody who opposes them, is because they’re afraid someone will grab a thread and unravel it, and their whole uniform will come unraveled ...

The only way I can think of to get this thing exposed, would be to coordinate with all of the different independent small newspapers and radio stations in the United States -- and television networks -- and get them to start blasting this thing -- and some universities -- because the major media’s not going to do anything about it.

[Imagevision]

25. 9-11 Report was almost as bad as the Warren Commission Report

Bushco installed former senator Chuck Robb to be the insider on 8-11 update reports to
Bush & Cheney, Robb was involved in the sexcapade with Miss Virginia and former Playboy cover Tai Collins (exceptional young lady and yes, Robb was/is still married to lucy Bird Johnson.

In 1991, Robb admitted that he had spent time with former Miss Virginia Tai Collins alone in a hotel room during the time he was Governor in the 1980's. However, he denied having an affair with her, merely - and arguably somewhat improbably - admitting to sharing a bottle of wine and receiving a nude massage.

Collins later told Playboy magazine that the two had been having an affair since 1983. There were also rumors that during the time he was Governor, Robb was present at parties where cocaine was used. He strongly denied this when the issue was raised during his 1988 campaign for the US Senate.
http://www.answers.com/topic/tai-collins

[H2O Man]

32. I remember the

scandals associated with Robb. It seems almost funny, in the sense that his father-in-law was said to enjoy some of the juicy gossip that his friend J Edgar Hoover used to hold over politicians.

[Pithy Cherub]

26. Daddy's DC Mr. Fix-it is in DC

to bail water out of Junior's leaky shrimp boat. It's what Baker is doing sub rosa that is more scary. :scared:

Hamilton is a pink poodle and Broder a paid stooge. They are looking for Lieberman to be added to the Hamilton Harpies as a matching twin set.

Very Good H20 Man.

[Imagevision]

27. H2O, excellant piece... K&R

[oc2002]

29. brilliant.

well done.

[Disturbed]

35. When the 911 commission allowed

Busholini and Darth Cheney to testify together in a secret session, not under oath, it was obvious that the 911 Commission was a sham.

We have a whole lot of people in power, especially ones behind the scene, that absolutely do not believe in a democratic representative Republic. They believe in Fascism. America has always been on the verge of being dominated by Multi-Corps/Oil Corps assisted by the people who are supposed to represent the people at large yet mainly represent the Multi-Corps/Oil Corps and the Military Industrial Complex

[Octafish]

33. It's not just chance We the People are getting beaten into the ground.

Thanks for another outstanding post, Mr. Waterman. Much obliged.

What H20 Man wrote:

Hamilton also was among the strongest advocates of the Reagan administration's attempts to expand domestic security laws. As the head of the CIA, George Bush had pushed for increasing government secrecy to combat "terrorists" who might compromise national security. No member of congress worked harder to help the Reagan-Bush attempts to deny US citizens information on the decisions being made by their elected officials than Lee Hamilton. Thus, David Broder wrote that Lee was the "conscience of Congress."

The whole post should be on the front page of The New York Times.

[H2O Man]

52. One of the books

that I'm reading now is the Oxford Companion to United States History, edited by Paul Boyer (2001). It's kind of like a 900-page encyclopedia, filled with fascinating information on this nation's history. Early in the book, there is section on the 1919 case Abrams v. United States, which has to do with citizens' rights to disagree with the federal government during times of war. Now, I am not advocating the rights of those who are actively opposing this country -- good night, I find what Scooter Libby did to be cause for criminal conviction. But I think that there is reason for concern that those who oppose the administration, because they believe the administration is the true threat to the Constitution and democracy, are indeed at risk for being beaten into the ground.

[formercia]

36. Another great essay, thanks.

Spot on.

[Me.]

37. A Late Afternon Kick

*shadow government*

[mod mom]

38. Thanks for another informative post!

[iamahaingttta]

39. America's War won't end when we leave Iraq.

James Baker is just the guy to make damn sure of that.
When I first read that he was to head the Iraqi Study Group, I laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed...

[bloom]

40. Hamilton's essay Sept. 24, 2006 - on Compromise

that ran in the paper - around the time the #$%@%s were compromising by writing off Habeas Corpus, etc.

Compromise keeps Congress running

When former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay resigned his congressional seat in June, he gave a widely reported speech defending his no-holds-barred approach to legislating.

"It is not the principled partisan, however obnoxious he may seem to his opponents, who degrades our public debate," DeLay declared, "but the preening, self-styled statesman who elevates compromise to a first principle. For true statesmen, Mr. Speaker, are not defined by what they compromise, but what they don't."

I sat up and took notice when I saw that comment, because I was in the midst of reading a history of the House of Representatives that stood in sharp contrast to the attitude exemplified by Mr. DeLay. The book is by the prize-winning historian Robert Remini, who is now the official historian of the House, and is called "The House: The History of the House of Representatives."

One theme that emerges time and again in this definitive history is that over the past two centuries, compromise has been key to the proper functioning of the body to which DeLay was bidding farewell - not an afterthought, not a talking point to be trotted out at politically opportune moments, not a strategic gambit to be dismissed by the ideologically pure, but part and parcel of what has made Congress a great institution....

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2006/09/24/column.0924-SH-A10_RDS27546.sto (subscription)

[leveymg]

41. Thanks for reminding us about Mr. Burr, er. I mean Hamilton.

I got my treasonous American rogues mixed up.

Great post.

[Jack Rabbit]

42. K/R

Well done.

[Time for change]

43. Very intriguing

I must read Bugliosi's book. It sounds like it will help me to understand a lot of things about our country and the world a lot better than I do now.

I came away from the November-December 2000 debacle with an intense hatred for James Baker, Antonin Scalia, Katherine Harris, and some of the other lesser players in the drama. Now it makes a little more sense.

I've read Bugliosi's "None Dare Call it Treason", where he lays bare the theft of the 2000 election by our 5 USSC Scumbuckets, and I am very much looking forward to hearing more of what he has to say about the cabal that you speak of. It sounds like an understanding of that is very much a requirement for understanding recent U.S. and world history (going how far back??), as well as what is going on today, and what it all bodes for the future.

[bleever]

45. I watched Hamilton respond

to Matthews' question about how the Iraq Study Group could possibly reach a consensus between the pResident's allies and those member who thought the war was a mistake from the beginning. He answered that the group just didn't include any of the latter. They are all, he said, "senior statesmen" who put country above party, while Baker murmured his agreement.

And I thought to myself, "Whose country?"

K&R.

[Me.]

46. Transcript Of The Show

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15303013/

*shadow government*

[AntiFascist]

47. Here is an expose....

on Project Mockingbird including more info on Lee Hamilton:

http://www.educate-yourself.org//cn/ciadisinfoinaction28mar05.shtml

"On February 5, 1992 a gun-shy, uninspired House of Representatives begrudgingly authorized an "October Surprise" investigation by a task force of 13 congressmen headed by Lee Hamilton (D-IN). who had chaired the House of Representatives Iran-Contra Committee. Hamilton has named as chief team counsel Larry Barcella, a lawyer who represented BCCI when the Bank was indicted in 1988 (*11).

Like the Washington Post, Hamilton had not shown interest in pursuing the U.S. arms-for-drugs operation (*12). He had accepted Oliver North's lies,and as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee he derailed House Resolution 485 which had asked President Reagan to answer questions about Contra support activities of government officials and others (*13). After CIA operative John

Hull (from Hamilton's home state). was charged in Costa Rica with "international drug trafficking and hostile acts against the nation's security", Hamilton and 18 fellow members of Congress tried to intimidate Costa Rican President Oscar Arias Sanchez into handling Hull's case "in a manner that will not complicate U.S.-Costa Rican relations" (*14). The Post did not report the Hamilton letter or the Costa Rican response that declared Hull's case to be "in as good hands as our 100 year old uninterrupted democracy can provide to all citizens" (*15).

Though the Post does its best to guide our thinking away from conspiracy theories, it is difficult to avoid the fact that so much wrongdoing involves government or corporate conspiracies:"

[spanone]

48. Kick & Recommend

[stevedeshazer]

49. This is why I go to Democratic Underground.

Thanks. That was an outstanding presentation of information and connecting the dots.

[pscot]

50. Interesting, but so what?

If one believes, as I do, that there is in fact a high cabal working behind the scenes at the highest levels of government, where does one go from there? What can be done? Barring some epic scandal that rips the mask off, how can the public be convinced to the degree that they take action? Supposing this stuff is all true, how do we deal with it? What's the plan? Pitchforks? Not now, man. We're watching American Idol.

[Straight Shooter]

51. Baker, Hamilton, et al., the archetypes of power for the sake of power.

Anyone who suffers from the delusion that those who head our government and abet our government with its corrupt agenda need to educate themselves as to what's really going on. These people are not in power because they want to help this country. They want to control this country, and every other piece of the world they can get under their thumb.

America has degenerated from looking into the abyss to the point where we are hanging onto the edge of the abyss by our fingernails. We look up and see figures like Baker and Hamilton stepping on our fingers. They don't care about the U.S. of A. They care about power for the sake of power, and if Americans could just wake up and realize that, necessary changes could be implemented.

Another insightful post, H20 Man. Disconcerting, but astute.

[cosmicdot]

53. not surprised finding Lee on the Nixon Center's Advisory Council

thanks for nothing, Lee

the Nixon Center where Lieberman is on the Board of Directors

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205063607/www.nixoncenter.org/boardac.htm
or
http://tinyurl.com/pubbw (same link)

check out the cast of characters: Under investigation AIG's Greenberg and son ACE Bermuda-based insurer, Evan; on trial Conrad Black; war criminal Kissinger; Mr. Council on Foreign Relations Gelb; McCain; Peter 'Blackstone Group' Peterson; Defense Policy Board member James Schlesinger; Sen. Pat Roberts; Brent Scowcroft; David Abshire; Richard Allen; Chris Cox; Charles Krauthammer; Robert C. McFarlane

who could associate with ease with this mob?

what's the common denominator? skeletons in the closet???

[GusConsultore]

54. betrayal of america

manual for treason...

"You can hijack elections by rigging the voting machines, redrawing the districts, tampering with supplies for select precincts, or stacking the judges bench...

Yes, you can fall asleep at the switch and allow the worst attack on American soil in history to happen. Not only don't you need to take responsibility for the failure, but you can use it to make yourself more popular than ever and brandish anyone who disagrees with you as weak and supporting of the enemy.

You can literally even invade and occupy a country which had nothing to do with that attack and wage a war so bloody and baseless it makes Vietnam look like a heroic and nobel cause. The press at this point censors itself, you don't even have to intimidate them much. You drag out the oldest and most insidious political maneuvers all based on fear... "


http://www.miserywatch.com/2006/10/a_manual_for_tr.html

[midnight]

55. Does anyone remember the weekend Al Gore's

Attorney, not Boise, but the one who filled papers in court, and was found dead the next day? I don't know what his name was. He was in a wheel chair. Their was discussion about his health not being the best.

[mkb]

56. Not Everyone Who Says They're Your Friend, Is Your Friend

     Perhaps David Broder is bald because he's exposed himself
as a conservative partisan to so many people.
     As for Lee Hamilton, perhaps he's on the leeward side of
life, and therefore does not share the struggles of the common
man, even though he looks the part.  That means for you
readers, you can't always judge a book by its cover.
     For now, I will continue to urge patience and focus on
the hope of a Democratic victory.  There is so much that needs
to get better that we must try to focus on the most important
things.  The future must be in our minds.
     I try to do the basics, informing people that extreme
wealth and war are the enemies of good intentioned people, and
let those who understand metaphor do their thing.  I think
that anyone trying to understand things and contribute to a
better world can make advances in learning metaphor and
symbolism.
     Those that can learn those things can help the rest of us
in the struggle to make the best world possible.  A good world
is good for everyone, and so should be appealing to those who
want to live a good life.
     Of course not everyone is so easily identified as helping
the rich and easy living people run the world.  There are
exceptions and contradictions to the rule, and well-meaning
people must be aware of this and continue to learn, even
though it often means struggle.  Good things are possible,
even if they may come in the future, and war is not
inevitable.  Let's find our role in society, and work for
things to get better.  For now, a Democratic victory should be
our main focus, whether we vote or not.  Good luck.
     

[H2O Man]

58. "The man throwing

worms into the river may not be a friend of the fish." -- Malcolm X

[autorank]

57. This post s IS the post election agenda, win or not. KR

I'm quite sure that the Democratic Party has one chance and that's when we regain power.

The Mary Landrieu, Mark Pryor, Joe Lieberman wing which serves Lee Hamilton, a senior member of "management," need to be put aside and told to cooperate or no bucks for their states. It's that simple.

The "high cabal" is not a very competent crew. They trusted George W. Bush. What a bunch of idiots.If they lacked power, they probably couldn't get a decent job they're so inept.

It's real democracy time: all Federal funding for all Federal campaigns; clean, highly inclusive elections, and a government based on justice and well being not perversion of the law and selective wealth.

OUTSTANDING!!!

[AzDar]

59. Kick n/t

[malaise]

60. Great post H2O Man

Kick

[LWolf]

61. Much appreciated.

:thumbsup:

[Raster]

62. James Baker is the "friendly, legal, human" face of the beast.

But the beast nonetheless. He is constantly named as the bush* family consigliori, as if Puzzo-esque descriptions make his deeds any better. Who is the bigger gangster, the man who pulls the trigger or the man that pulls the lawbooks to protect and defend the murderer? There is NOTHING honorable about James Baker. Nothing. He is as crooked and evil as those he fronts for.

[texpatriot2004]

63. K & R nm