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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:55 PM
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Have you noticed that Foley really kicked Woodward out of the spotlight
for nearly 3 weeks? Woodward had one hot day and then Foley took up all the oxygen. Now the corpmedia is onto Hillary-McCain dustup.

The problem in this is that what Woodward reveals is the stuff impeachments are made of. It should be putting Condi behind bars, Rumsfeld fired and Bush and Cheney impeached.

I know Foley story did some good to wake up a certain type of Republican mind, but, DAMN, it stepped all over BushInc's crimes of office and dereliction of duty.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:56 PM
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1. a lot of the stuff Woodward revealed
I think the voters have finally figured out
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:06 PM
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10. The Condi material was so devastating it shoulda forced new 9-11 hearings
at the very least.

I know we all expect the worst of BushInc, NOTHING surprises us anymore and find it commonplace by now, but, it's hard to fathom that the public has caught up with that.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:58 PM
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2. aaannnnndddd, NK Nukes have pretty much gotten Foley displaced.
that said, it seems that there was MUCH more public reaction to the Foley story, and it's going to hurt pugs more than Woodward

unfortunately, you know the fear factor of NK nukes is going to have the same effect as 911/WOT with most 'news' consumers

the M$M is doing its job very well for the junta
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:58 PM
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3. But Woodward hasn't totally faded
he has been on Larry King (and they even showed a repeat of that interview recently) and Meet the Press and other programs. Yes, Foley took alot of oxygen but the revelations of Woodward haven't necessarily been glossed over. And his book is currently ranked #1 on Amazon.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:04 PM
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7. I believe the Woodward's publicist
had a very long and well planned roll-out media blitz for the book. He has been on lots of shows for what 3 weeks now? I doubt that the Foley scandal was a planned event, just the caving of a house of cards. Really have the Republicans been able to get a good headline lately? The wheels may not be coming off the wagon, but they are certainly getting very wobbly.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:59 PM
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4. This seems to anger voters more than Woodward's book did
Sex sells.
Sex crimes infuriates people more.

Besides, woodward's a self-serving f**k.
I wouldn't buy or read his book.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:00 PM
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5. As long as we win the house. The House is where Impeachments begin.
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 06:01 PM by xultar
So who the hell cares. If we win the house...investiagtions will start up all over.

Conyers will be on C-Span 1, 2 & 3 24/7.

That is all we need to be concerned about people.

New motto. Vote Dems in control of the house and we'll make sure your children don't get sexually harassed.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:16 PM
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16. Great minds.....
See my post below. I wrote that before I read the other responses. But you are right! And I am right. The issue is moot unless we take control of congress.

:pals:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:00 PM
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6. I thought it suspect when the Foley thing just APPEARED...
...at the same time of the Woodward revelations. It was like they HELD onto it, like an atomic bomb, until the time was right.:grr:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:05 PM
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8. So?
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 06:06 PM by bowens43
What's important is taking control of congress. Foley is relevent. Woodwards book is not. As the idiot's poll numbers show, everyone already knows that he's a criminal.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:08 PM
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11. Foley is relevant, that's a known....it's the imbalance that's still odd,
considering the relevancy of the Woodward revelations.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:06 PM
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9. Sex still trumps everything else.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:10 PM
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12. As far as most are concerned
there is little truly new news in Woodward's book. His revelations aren't likely to change the way people look at Bush. On a similar vein with NK, most already figured they possessed nukes.

OTOH, many people have kids and are disgusted with the idea that politicians would protect someone they knew was a pedophile. And the late night comedians have had a lot of fun with the story, so it stays in the news a bit longer.

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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:12 PM
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13. Word Hastert staff will be before the Committee this week
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:13 PM
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14. If the Dems win control, they will control the agenda instead of the MSM
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 06:22 PM by Kahuna
controlling the agenda.

What difference does it make that Woodward's book has impeachable charges if you don't have a congress that will pursue them? The Foley mess is "the" issue that lazy, shallow Americans can wrap their tiny brains around. Bush lying about the war? That truly is old news.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:42 PM
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19. BOO-YA-SHACKA-LAKA! You said it.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:13 PM
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15. Woodward's book wouldn't have made any difference.
Sorry, but it's true. The "faithful" don't give a Damn about incompetence or lies. They either don't believe it because bush* is the second coming or they don't care because winning is everything to them. There is absolutely nothing that will shake them from that stance. However, some of these believers don't give the rest of the repubs the same adoration as bush* the lesser so this has hit them hard. They probably won't vote Dem, but they are less likely to vote at all, which is hopefully all we need.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:32 PM
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17. Did Foley hold a gun to DEMs with media access or something???
Did Foley hold a gun to Kerry, Dean, Obama, Hillary, Harry Reid and the rest and say "If you DARE go on one of those debate shows and bring up Woodwards- it's TOAST!!!"

Did Foley keep a single, solitary, top name Democrat from going on TV and saying "If the Republicans will cover up child moletors, surely they would cover up info about Iraq and 9/11- for instance, in Woodwards new book..." etc, etc,

No- of course Foley didnt do that.

I know- I know-we would rather use the media for a constant excuse for all of our failures than to actually force our leaders to do something about it.

At the risk of having all the excuse makers jump on me again and accuse me of "DEM bashing"- I'd like to ask, once again, why we expect paid Republican "journalists" to be on TV saying what Democratic leaders with media access should be saying??
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:40 PM
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18. squashed it
the Foley thing's part of the corruption charge which could work ok in the House, but there's little there to sustain a Senate run. I'm hoping we get back to Iraq in the time left. The public really does care about being ignored by Bush and the republicans over it.
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