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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:28 PM
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Hey, O'Reilly, 16 years ago my darling wife suffered an ectopic pregtnancy
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 06:21 PM by 11 Bravo
We didn't even know she was pregnant. One night after dinner, I just happened to notice that she had gone into the toilet and stayed there for a very long time. (If I had gone downstairs to watch TV, this story would have a different ending.) But I knocked on the door. When she didn't answer, I went in. As much as I despise you, O'Reilly, I hope you never encounter your wife unconscious on the floor in a pool of blood. She was hemorrhaging, Bill. The fetus, which we didn't even know existed, had attached itself inside her right fallopian tube, and the tube had ruptured. I picked her up (have you ever tried to hoist an unconscious 130 pound human being, Bill?) and rushed to the car. Of course, I had to lay her down in the driveway, open the car door, and lift her again to put her down in the back seat.
We did not purchase our home because it is situated 5 minutes from Fairfax Hospital in Northern Virginia, Bill, but I'm damned glad that we did. We got to the ER, the physician performed a therapeutic abortion, taking the tube and fetus both, (thereby cutting by 50% our chances of having the children we were trying to have); but the love of my life survived. The attending physician told me later that she might have bled to death in another 30 minutes.
So I'll make a deal with you, Bill. You can keep your "War on Christmas". Please continue to defend this overwhelmingly Christian nation, with it's overwhelmingly Christian legislature, and it's overwhelmingly Christian judiciary from ... whatever. But the next time you feel obligated to offer up a piece of ignorance along the lines of "No pregnant woman's health is ever in danger", do me a favor and KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT!

P.S. We have two beautiful, healthy boys now, Bill-o, and they both think you're a jerk.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:30 PM
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1. Why don't you email that to him? That was brilliant, and a perfect
example of what asshats like Falafel Boy need to hear. I'm glad your story had a happy ending, BTW.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:43 PM
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17. What did O'Lielly say?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:45 PM
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20. Here's a thread with more info:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:59 PM
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27. thanks.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:04 PM
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79. Better yet...email it to Olbermann
The compassionate one.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:30 PM
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2. Please send this to him...
Glad the story had a happy ending!
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Esse Quam Videri Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:31 PM
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3. Let me the first to recommend
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:31 PM
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4. Recommended.
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 05:32 PM by texas1928
Well Said. I am so tired of tucker and O'Lielly, and others spouting off about stuff they have no understanding of, and thinking they are the authority on everything. If I ever meet Tucker on the street, I am punching him in the nuts. Then in the nose.
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:09 PM
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80. good luck finding his nuts!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:16 AM
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105. Don't you dare do that!
Unless I'm there to watch. :yourock:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:32 PM
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5. send it send it send it
and I am so glad your wife survived!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:32 PM
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6. Bravo! And I'm glad you have 2 healthy sons ...
It just shows you how much Big Macho Man O'Lielly knows about women's health ... What a stupid, UNINFORMED comment to make!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:33 PM
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7. Well said! Please send it to him!
:applause:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:34 PM
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8. I agree - you should send this to Bill-o
And I'm very happy your wife survived, and that you two went on to have your two children.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:37 PM
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9. Well done, Sir.
I am very glad there was a happy ending to this story.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:37 PM
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10. I didn't think even O'reily was insipid enough to utter such drivel
I mean, I knew he was an idiot but sweet Jesus, that's just profoundly retarded. Surely Harvard is cringing.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:09 PM
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46. He's an asshat! Period!
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:38 PM
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11. when did that moran make that incredibly stupid comment?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:46 PM
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22. Last Wednesday, on his radio show.
I had to wait this long to compose a response, as I was damned near incoherent with rage after hearing Dr. O'Reilly's totally uninformed medical opinion.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:38 PM
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12. Send it to him -or KO. What a great post.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:45 PM
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18. I do know know what he said, but your story is heartfelt.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:16 PM
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82. Send it to both of them.
O'Reily first, you won't get a response...and then send the whole thing to KO and let him know how O'Bastard responded.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:39 PM
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13. Powerful story; deserves a bigger forum (like, KO).
Bless you all.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:42 PM
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14. I'm glad your story has a happy ending.
I went through the same thing, losing a fallopian tube and an ovary in the process. The OB-GYN who performed the operation said it looked like a bomb had exploded inside me.

I nearly died and your wife nearly died, and neither of us realized we were even pregnant. Unfortunately, that's all too often the case with ectopic pregnancies, when the woman doesn't know anything is amiss until she starts hemorrhaging.

O'Reilly's idiotic statement makes me livid.
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:44 PM
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113. Ferret Herders Wife
I went through an ec topic and almost bled to death if it had not been for my husband I would be dead. I do not think O'Idiot could care less.You are right about not knowing you are pregnant.A doctor tells you and that is if you are lucky enough to live to hear it.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:43 PM
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15. INcredibly powerful post.
I'm glad your story had a good ending.Thank you for sharing it. :kick:
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:43 PM
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16. If somebody has the actual transcript
please send it to these folks:

http://www.acog.org/

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:03 AM
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104. Yeah
The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology might want to talk to him about spreading such a lie. Isn't that a form of practicing medicine without a license?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:45 PM
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19. My great grandmother died in childbirth.
My grandmother had an ectopic pregnancy.

My mother had eclampsia and went into seizures. The baby died.

WHAT did O'Reilly say?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:51 PM
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26. My great grandmother died in childbirth, too
In fact, it used to be pretty common.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:24 PM
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78. It used to be extremely common,
May-December relationships were far more common, too, because an established older man who had lost a wife would often remarry a much younger woman. It wasn't about physical attraction, so much as the need for someone with the energy and longevity to raise the children and take care of the household. As a result, fewer men were able to marry, to the detriment of society. In other words, men suffered as a direct result of this women's health issue. Why O'Reilly is so ignorant of that reality is beyond me.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:42 AM
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88. He's ignorant of a lot of things.
I read an article about a couple's agonizing decision to have a late-term abortion (the right-wingers have dubbed it "partial-birth") because the baby had some dis-order, not diagnosed until late in the pregnancy, whereby his bones would break for no apparent reason. Apparently the child would be in constant agony for as long as he lived, and his life span would be short. This couple's decision to end the life of this baby in utero changed the article's author's opinion about late-term abortion.

People need to make these medical decisions for themselves, with input from health care professionals. Ignorant blow-hards like O'Reilly should shut up about things that they know nothing about. There's a real story, with real people, behind every woman's health care decisions.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:45 PM
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56. my MIL had an eptopic. She taught of all us girls the symptoms, which
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 07:46 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
saved her daughters life a few years ago.

My mother had 7 spontaneous miscarriages before she was able to carry me to term.

I suffered 3 miscarriages, and the last one almost killed me.


He is a vile, horrid little man.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:46 PM
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21. Did he REALLY say that?
...Oh boy. O'Lielly just keeps putting his foot in it, doesn't he? What an idiot. What an insensitive, heartless idiot.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:47 PM
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23. awesome post
My kudo's to you and your spirit in that trying time!!
Glad that your wife is ok and safe.

Bill Oreilly and the rest of his constipated conservative thugs can go cheney themselves
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:49 PM
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24. That story (with bad rather than good endings)--
--was quite commonplace before abortion became legal. Women with miscarriages were not treated until the doctors were sure that the fetus was out, so as not to be accused of performing an abortion. If she bled to death in the meantime, tough shit.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:49 PM
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25. Thank (insert favorite deity here) for your wife's survival!!!!
My brother's wife experienced a tubal pregnancy and, fortunately her experience was akin to your wife's.

...and Bill O can STFU!:grr::grr:
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elare Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:02 PM
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28. Add my story to the list
I also had an ectopic pregnancy. Fortunately, I did know I was pregnant, and my doctor suspected it was ectopic. He sent me for an ultrasound which confirmed it, and I was in surgery within 3 hours. When they started the surgery, I started to bleed so heavily that it took them more than 10 minutes to stop it. The surgeon told my husband afterwards that if that tube had ruptured, they likely wouldn't have been able to get me to a hospital and into surgery fast enough to save my life.

This just convinces me that I'm right to never watch that asshole's show (fortunately, we don't get him on the radio here)
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:07 PM
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29. Please send this to O'Reilly, and CC Keith Olbermann
You and your wife know the realities of an ectopic pregnancy. It seems Mr. O'Reilly is in desperate need of an education in this matter.

Julie
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:10 PM
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30. A brilliant and human response
to that stupid moron.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:10 PM
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31. I had an ectopic in a Catholic Hospital
You and your wife were very lucky it was a non sectarian hospital. I should mail my experience to O'Reilly too It was a Catholic Hospital in Queens, New York. I am sure ole Bill has heard of this hospital. They wouldn't even DO a sonogram immediately, although I, too, had all the classic symptoms, of a ruptured ectopic. Maybe it was just a cover for them to make sure the "baby was dead". Their words, not mine.

I did go into a coma while I waited 24 hours in that bed. Later, I overhead a couple of good, christian doctors joke that it took them half and hour to find my bladder in all the bloody mess. To add insult to injury, they sent a priest in to see me to "counsel me because I was so bitter at losing my baby". Hell, no. I was bitter at nearly losing MY LIFE.

What kept me going through all this was my husband's love and my then 3 year old daughter's tears. I swore I would LIVE to see her grow up. She is now a beautiful 27 year old and has an equally beautiful 22 year old sister, born 2 years almost to the day after this ectopic.

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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:28 PM
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51. Oh my God.
At least I knew I was carrying my wife toward a hospital that would treat her. I am so glad you survived. Please hug your daughters for me the next time you see them.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:16 PM
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32. My mom had an ectopic pregnancy
A very similar situation as the love of your life .

I lost all chances of having a brother or a sister .
I'm thankful you and your wife were able to conceive
after that horrible experience .

I have to call my mom now and tell her I love her .
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:16 PM
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33. I'm so very glad that your wife survived
I'll bet Keith Olbermann has heard about this and wouldn't be at all surprised if he makes Bill-O a worst person candidate. he definitely deserves it after such a retarded comment. The man just keeps saying the stupidest things. It's like he manufactures them.



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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:31 PM
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34. Love the PS!
Thanks for sharing your story!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:34 PM
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35. Will someone please HIT him?
I'm not normally a fan of physical violence but Bill O is on the very select list of "people who desperately need a good smack in the mouth".

My mother had an ectopic when I was a child (about ten). Luckily, she was already in hospital for a completely unrelated matter so she got through it and was even able to have another child but she could very easily have died if the situation had been slightly different.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:35 PM
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36. My mother almost died of the same thing
Almost the same scenario. She was never able to have children after that.

Thus, was I adopted.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:38 PM
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37. Death due to pregnancy probs. or giving birth doesn't just happen to Dems.
... O'Lielly really stuck his foot in it this time.
Just as those on this thread can recall times when these tragedies occurred to people they knew/loved, so can rethugs watching Bill recall loved ones they lost too.

What an unconscionable asshat.


Thank God you found your wife in time.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:47 PM
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57. yeah. I keep hoping for Brittany Spears to be the test case for third
trimester abortions, since you know, we should all "like trust the president and support whatever he says."

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:11 PM
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66. And don't you wonder how many rethugs it has happened to already?
They always deal with those kinds of things secretly.
Then of course, they grab their picket signs again and resume harassing women at the family planning clinics.



*** To Brittany: Why aren't you like, you know, in Iraq? *** :eyes:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:19 PM
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67. Yeah. She could have gone over their a dozen or so times by now to give
a free concert to our troops. What's up with that, Brittany?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:39 PM
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71. If she's such an ardent fan of dimson, I think she should ride around
in one of those unarmored Humvees.

Oh m' gawd, Brittany. Don't break a nail!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:42 PM
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72. or drop your baby!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:54 PM
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74. Well, maybe they won't let her wear those clunky, sparkly shoes in Iraq.
Hey Brittany, no wearing your own armor from home either.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:39 PM
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38. Why do they allow that smarmy coward on the air??
I just wish he would, just once, actually take on a lefty in a fight - I'd love to punch his lights out.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:14 PM
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81. I would pay good money to see O'Reilly do one of those charity boxing...
...matches. He could be paired up against a liberal. Preferably a big, burly Marine who just came back from Iraq.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:43 PM
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39. Bill O'Lielly and *ucker Carlson, etc.
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 06:45 PM by Anakin Skywalker
need to be reborn in their next lives as WOMEN, then they will know how it feels!

I just hate smarmy, arrogant men who mouth off on issues they know nothing about!
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:45 PM
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40. I have someone very close to me who went through a similar ordeal
If she had not had an abortion she would be dead, and so would the fetus.

There would be absolutely nothing "pro-life" about restricting access to abortion in such a situation, the fetus can not be saved either way so you sure as hell better do everything you can to save the mother. It is absolutely sick and immoral to suggest otherwise. I can somewhat understand why people believe some types of abortion should be outlawed, I disagree but I can at least understand. But anyone who is not at least pro-choice when it comes down to the life of the mother either does not understand anything about complications in pregnancy, or they are sick immoral people.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:52 PM
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41. FUCKIN' A!
If you didn't send this to him, don't worry, cause I just did.

:spank::spank::spank::spank::spank:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:16 PM
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49. Good! I sent it as well, but I have slammed him so many times via email.
that I'll wager that by now he blocks my correspondence. Maybe he'll read yours.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:30 PM
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52. Hope he reads all the replies too
I wonder if his handlers will even bother to click the link when they see it's democraticunderground.com
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:30 PM
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53. Hope he reads all the replies too
I wonder if his handlers will even bother to click the link when they see it's democraticunderground.com
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:03 PM
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42. Thank you
My biggest concern when my daughter was pregnant was some sort of difficulty that was potentially life threatening - but not an immediate emergency. Our only hospital within 60 miles is a Catholic hospital that insists they don't perform abortions AT ALL, and only performs D&C's when the life of the mother is at risk. I suspect they've either lenient on the definition or have been very lucky. It makes me cuckoo when people dismiss women's health in the abortion debate. I'm glad all turned out well for you, and congratulations on raising two very smart boys!
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:06 PM
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43. You might think about
sending him this thread.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:07 PM
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45. Guess I should have read the responses
to see that everyone rec. the same thing.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:06 PM
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44. So they're healthy AND smart... :)
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:10 PM
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47. I'm so glad that your wife's life was saved
And I'm so angry that some men are so fucking ignorant of all the dangers that can happen during a pregnancy. O'Liely clearly never heard of an ectopic pregnancy, and apparently the fetus freaks don't realize that if that happens, the fetus has zero chance of survival. It's not like you can nudge it down to the uterus. Sheesh. If there is such a thing as reincarnation, I hope all the anti-choice men are women in their next lives.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:26 PM
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50. Hey, that's my next life of choice
O'Lielly can go come back as a worm :evilgrin:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:11 PM
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48. Please, please, please pretty please...
SEND IT TO THAT MUTHA-EFFING ASSHAT!

You just plain ROCK!!!
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:31 PM
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54. Great post. Thank you so much.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:44 PM
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55. Bravo!
I hope you send it in.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:47 PM
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58. Thank you for posting this
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 07:48 PM by never_get_over_it
I'm so glad your wife was ok and you were able to have your sons....Fairfax is a great hospital - I've had surgery there....

But after reading through the post can someone answer this question - so if a state out laws abortion such as South Dakota without an allowance for the life of the mother - are the folks in this thread saying it would be illegal for a hospital to save a woman from an ectopic pregnancy. If that is the case that is so far beyond insanity - there is NO chance of an ectopic pregnancy coming to term and a huge chance that the mother could die

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE....jesus just when I think nothing can shock me


You know I'm wondering - I had to have a D&C while pregnant - because the fetus had no heart beat - it was the hardest decision of my life - because I was so AFRAID they had made a mistake and there was a heartbeat - I made them do the sonogram again - and questioned them until they probably wanted to slap me silly and only agreed because my doctor said if I waited for the fetus to expel on its own that there might be a chance it would hurt my chances to get pregnant again - so I guess these freaks would make it illegal to have a D&C under these circumstances. For the record I do not believe I had an abortion I believe I had a miscarriage because unfortunately my fetus had already died. I unfortunately never got pregnant again.

Oh these ignorant people make me crazy....
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:28 PM
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86. what is wrong with these people is a profound and endless hatred
for women. each and every excuse, reason, whatever, they give for being anti-choice, is, at its heart, woman-hating. What they are saying is that something or someone is more important than the woman, whether it's the state, the church, the sperm donor, or the zygote.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:44 PM
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87. Ectopic pregnacies are not permitted to be ended in some countries
Even if this life threatening condition is discovered the woman is merely put under observation until the pregnancy "ends at God's will."

Then they'll go in and try to save the mother's life.

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:02 AM
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98. Completely irrelevant technical point, but an amazing ectopic story

of one that did survive: This was on DiscoveryHealth. This woman carried triplets, unbeknownst to her doctors, with one of the three -- the only boy -- having attached to the outside of her uterus. Born (by C-section obviously) at 28 weeks, all three are healthy children. It was truly an amazing story.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/innovations/embryonic/CAnew2E.htm

I'd still say your comment that this is "NO chance of an ectopic pregnancy coming to term" is essentially right (for all 'intents and purposes') -- ignoring what is probably a one in a billion case. There is definitely "a huge chance that the mother could die", as you say.

On a more personal note, thanks for sharing your story. I'm sorry for that difficult experience.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:50 PM
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59. KO rules him Worst Person in the World today.
We can always count on Keith. :loveya:

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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:52 PM
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62. That was awesome!
Keith's the best!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:50 PM
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60. OMG, I am so sorry
Thank-you for sharing your very personal & horrific story. It puts a face on those who O'Reilly attacks with such viciousness. I am so happy for you all that she is ok :hug:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:51 PM
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61. WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!! KO called him a MORON again
I love it!!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:53 PM
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63. Keith came through!!!!
Billo is today's Worst Person in the World, because of this statement!!!! :loveya:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:31 AM
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93. Well, he IS one.
He's lucky he even qualifies for the term "person." I wouldn't go that far, myself. Glad the story in the OP had a happy ending. Whew! What a harrowing report!

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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:56 PM
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64. K&R-That man is stupider than any one human being has a right to be.
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 08:09 PM by nam78_two
Glad about your wife and family-great post :)!
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:07 PM
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65. Good lord, you can be pro life without being a brain dead sanctimonious
asshole like O'Reilly!!

I once saw an academic use a big word on Bill's TV show. Bill accused the guy of making the word up!

These people revel in their own ignorance. They live on self-rightousness, which requires ignorance of one's own fallibiliby.

Newsprism
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:22 PM
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68. O'reilly thinks he's an OB-GYN now???
I think little billy should just try to keep his eye on his own genitalia and try not harrassing others with it.

Great OP....send it to the jerk!
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Hoooweee Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:33 PM
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69. O'Reilly won't give it air time, send it to Olbermann
Maybe it could get O'Reilly back to the top of the World's Worst
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:35 PM
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70. Recommend!
:kick:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:42 PM
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73. I too had an ectopic pregnancy and it too almost killed me
Fuck Bill O and his big giant head which he should shove firmly up his ass IMHO

congrats on your two kids, I have none. :cry:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:59 PM
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75. Oh thank God your wife survived and you were able to
go on to have two children.

Righteous rant, Brother! Fuck you Bill Orally!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:04 PM
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76. And what a valliant, wonderful husband you are!!!
Your two children and your wife are so lucky to have you. I almost cried reading this story. Wow. Just...wow.
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AnotherMoonbatLibrul Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:20 PM
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77. The thing is that
there are women even in Right Wing Land who would be offended by that remark--who know darn well that only a moron would say something so stupid. Oh, wait...

Thank God for the happy ending to your story!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:17 PM
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83. Sending this to Bill...
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:17 PM
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84. Oops, do we have consent to send it to him?
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:26 PM
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85. Motto of these right-wing idiots: Ignorant and proud of it.
Thanks for your story. You and your wife were very lucky to be able to have a family.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:45 AM
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89. my message to billo: hey o'liely: fuck off! n/t
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:04 AM
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90. Bravo - you need to mail this to that sonofab*tch...
...both snailmail and email - AND to your local paper, as well. Oh and, good job on raising some fine boys. I wish your wife continued health and happiness in spite of morons like OLielly.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:20 AM
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91. Recommended to the extent permitted by DU policy
What a guy!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:27 AM
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92. It's so good to hear that your story ended well.
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 01:35 AM by girl gone mad
I took a friend to Planned Parenthood last year because her husband was out of town. She had had a 'missed abortion', which means that the pregnancy had stopped developing and there was no heartbeat, but her body had not expelled the placenta or fetus. It needed to be removed or she risked severe infection. The doctor told her that he could perform an abortion in a hospital, but at that stage it would be easier and less expensive for her to just go to a clinic. So, she braved protesters and armed guards (I was surprised by the strict security) to have a potentially life saving, medically necessary procedure performed.

While at the clinic, I spoke with many of the other patients. At least half cited medical reasons for seeking to end their pregnancies. One lady, in her forties and already the mother of 4, had been advised by her Ob/gyn that going through pregnancy and childbirth again could leave her permanently disabled due to an underlying spinal condition. That would render her unable to care for her children, who were all under the age of 6. Another young woman had been taking a high dosage mutagenic drug to treat an immune disorder and had became pregnant despite the use of birth control. She said she could not have children unless she went off of the drug, which would mean having to give up her job and be virtually bedridden for months. That is something she could not afford financially or physically because her Marine reservist husband was about to be called up to duty. He sat by her side and held her hand in the waiting room, then bowed his head and prayed the entire time she was in the OR.

After that experience, I couldn't help but feel angry and disheartened by the fact that this issue has become so politicized. For whatever reason a woman makes the choice, be it abandonment by an abusive boyfriend or undiagnosed severe heart disease, she should not have to put with zealots calling her a murderer. Her husband shouldn't be told that the government, and not his sick wife or her doctors, needs to be given final authority over her body. She should not be told by some bloated talking head that her problems and her rights are fictional.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:37 AM
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94. I was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy once.
My doctor called me at home and urged me to come in for an ultrasound on a Sunday morning, because of my symptoms (sharp pain on the right side, and some bleeding). "I don't want to scare you," he said when I asked if this could wait until the next day, "but if this is a tubal pregnancy, you could be dead if you wait until tomorrow."

Fortunately it was a false alarm, and later tests showed a different reason for my symptoms.

A friend of mine did have an ectopic pregnancy. She passed out and had to be rushed to a hospital. I learned that 1 in 50 pregnancies in America today is ectopic - and without prompt termination of the pregnancy, the tube will burst and the woman often dies.

This is why even a 24-hour waiting period for abortion is a very bad idea that puts women's and girls' lives at risk.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 03:44 AM
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95. The BS keeps getting deeper over at Faux news
Are they genuinely that ignorant or do they just play it on TV?
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:44 AM
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96. Wholly Without Merit.
O'Really constantly reminds us of those 3 words a judge used to describe the lawsuit Faux brought against Al Franken.

And with this steaming pile of stupidity, he outdoes his employers.

Shame (if you had any at all) on you Billy.



11Bravo, my heart goes out to you and your family.

:pals: :loveya: :grouphug:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:07 AM
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97. You're a hero!
Really enjoyed seeing the obviously great love you have for your wife throughout your story and your closing line about your two beautiful boys was priceless!

Well done friend! :toast:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:15 AM
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99. Fu*k O'Leilly and all his ilk and the horses they rode in on
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:56 AM
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100. Listening to Bill O`Reilly discuss pregnancy issues
is like listening to George Bush discuss courage. Glad you ended up with two healthy boys, 11 Bravo.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:33 AM
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101. Bravo!
And may I add my voice to the chorus of "Send it to Olbermann"? (O'rally (sic) won't give it air time - Keith might.)

Glad to hear your wife came through this.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:56 AM
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102. My daughter-in-law
had one ten years ago. But unfortunately, she's never been able to get pregnant again.

The happy thing is, she's still alive and healthy.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:10 AM
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103. That's a nice thought for you,
Liberals should have more babies so we can vote the conservatives out of office!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:29 AM
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106. I am so glad that your wife survived after your life saving
actions. My best wishes to you and your family.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:07 AM
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107. K&R
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:24 PM
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108. Some stats
From December 2005

Background: Ectopic pregnancy continues to be the leading cause of first-trimester maternal death. While diagnosis and management has improved, the incidence of this disease has continued to climb since the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) started collecting data in 1970 (CDC, 1995; Rumack, 1998). This increase is likely due to a continued rise in the prevalence of predisposing risk factors. Ectopic pregnancy has additional significance in that the associated mortality with ectopic pregnancy usually affects an otherwise healthy segment of the population.

Frequency:

In the US: The CDC estimated that approximately 108,800 ectopic pregnancies occurred in 1992. This number represents approximately 2% of all pregnancies (CDC, 1995; National Center for Health Statistics , 1994). These estimates are considered conservative though, because patients whose condition was diagnosed and managed exclusively through private offices would not have been included in that data set.
With documented intrauterine pregnancy, the risk of concomitant ectopic (heterotopic) is approximately 1 case in 7000 patients (Rumack, 1998). This risk increases to approximately 1 case in 100 patients if the woman is being treated for infertility (Botash, 2000).

Mortality/Morbidity:

Ectopic pregnancy accounts for 9% of all pregnancy-related deaths (CDC, 1995; NCHS, 1994).
Morbidity includes a significantly increased risk for future ectopic pregnancy, possible infertility due to scarring or surgical resection of the tube, and potential adverse effects or complications related to drug therapy (Albayram, 2002).

http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic231.htm
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:31 PM
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109. emailed Keith and Bill with your OP
well said

oreilly@foxnews.com <oreilly@foxnews.com>

countdown@msnbc.com
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:47 PM
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110. Thanks.
I have slammed O'Reilly repeatedly via email over the years, probably to the point that he doesn't read a thing I send anymore. Maybe you'll have better luck. I would love to think that the self-absorbed prick has been given at least an inkling of how fucking stupid some of the things he says are.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 02:40 PM
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111. What was O'Reilly's REAL motive for saying this?
One can help but wonder what was going on behind the scenes.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:09 PM
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112. Bravo !!! - Thank You for Posting This !!! - K & R !!!
:kick::yourock::kick:
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