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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:39 PM
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Dems 50, GOP 49. 1tie. Like these senate numbers!
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

WoooHooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:41 PM
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1. Problem is they count LIEberman as a Dem.
He has gone to the dark side and I think will caucus with the Republicans if he pulls it out.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:42 PM
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2. I disagree about my state
Kansas has two asshole repukelican Senators. Why is it labeled blue?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:43 PM
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3. Click on it, and it will tell you. I dunno.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:45 PM
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6. I did
Doesn't make any sense. Neither senator is up for re-election. And we are making gains, but the state is still repukelican.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:44 PM
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4. Several errors
Kansas is grey, no race. But he counts Sanders as a Democrat and didn't he change to Independent, too?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:46 PM
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8. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) will caucus with the Democrats.
It makes sense to count him as a Democrat in examining which party will control the US Senate.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:44 PM
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5. That map labels Kansas grey, meaning no US Senate race in 2006. (NT)
NT
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:47 PM
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9. Ok gotcha
It looked blue in this light. But yes, now I see that is gray.

Thanks.
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Frazzled Educator Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:39 PM
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21. Kansas isn't labelled blue, it's labelled gray, meaning no election.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:45 PM
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7. No surprise abt Maine.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:51 PM
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10. Not good enough
Sixty seven (which would guarntee conviction) would be nice, but I know it's out of reach.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:54 PM
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11. I'd prefer for George W. Bush do be impeached and NOT convicted...
...because that way, no President Cheney.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:00 PM
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12. You mean pResident-for-a-week Cheney?
Impeaching the Big Dick will be easier than impeaching Shrub, because Cheney's dirtier than Shrub ever thought of being. He's had more time to practice.

No, if Shrub was impeached and Cheney installed in his place, Cheney will break William Henry Harrison's record for Shortest Presidency.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:10 PM
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14. Impeachment does not mean conviction and removal from office.
Evidently this cannot be repeated often enough. Clinton was impeached, but served out his term.
Impeachment does not equal conviction.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:13 PM
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16. Any Senate result that is 51/49
leaves the question of Lieberman jumping ship in place.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:38 PM
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20. I think you might be fighting a losing battle, but keep up the good work!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:54 PM
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23. I think you are right. n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:51 AM
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26. The difference between Clinton and, say, Bush or Cheney
President Clinton received a blowjob from someone not his wife, and then told the congressional hearing he had not had "sexual relations" with her. That's why they impeached him. For "lying under oath."

And strangely enough, he didn't lie under oath. The President received his blowjob in a jurisdiction where "sexual relations" are very specifically defined as intercourse; Monica Lewinsky called him a creep because he WOULDN'T have intercourse with her. IOW, they impeached the man for telling the truth.

If either Bush or Cheney are impeached, some of the crimes they can be brought up on are capital offenses--the War Crimes Act comes to mind. I remember Alberto Gonzalez writing a memo to Bush, which he obviously decided was "just a goddamn piece of paper" like he has with the Constitution, that detailed what violations of the War Crimes Act would get Bush sentenced to death.

If they impeach (which is an indictment and arraignment procedure, not a pronouncement of guilt) anyone in the Bush administration there will be gavel-to-gavel coverage on live television. It is my opinion that the only congressmen or senators who could afford to vote to not refer to the Senate (for congressmen) or not to convict (for senators) after their constituents hear the evidence against anyone in the cabal, are Republicans who are going to retire after their terms expire. They're basically going to put a ballot box and a casket next to each other, then sign the ballot box "put a vote to convict in this box or put your career in the other one."
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:12 PM
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15. I just want subpoena power in one of the houses.
The sheeple have to know what has been done in their name. Anything more is a bonus.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:20 PM
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17. No pardons for any of them, either.
A President can't pardon people for crimes for which he himself is impeached. I'm pretty sure that's impeached, not impeached and removed.

A real conviction isn't that far from reality even if it's only a one-or-two vote majority. One-third of the Senate is up for reelection in '08. If the public wants George's head bad enough, that could be fifteen scared-poopless Republican votes right there, and there's always the chance that there are one or two other GOP Senators with consciences--though I rather doubt it.

What I'd really like to see is a Dem majority in the House, and then mounting public pressure to have Bush and Cheney resign without pardoning anyone else--I'll be happy to let those two weasels go if we can bag the whole lot of their underlings, and sociopaths have a habit of looking out for number one first. Then we might have Nancy Pelosi as President and the chance to throw open the books before the goods can be carted away.

A super-majority in '08 might be interesting, too. If that happened, the new Congress would have a couple of weeks to initiate impeachment proceedings and throw the book at him, thus rendering invalid any pardons the President might plan on issuing in his final days.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:31 PM
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19. But Eric . . .
Who said anything about not impeaching the Big Dick?

We don't want impeachment. We want regime change

PELOSI FOR PRESIDENT IN 2007
(Whether she wants it or not)

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:01 PM
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13. Lugar, with no challenger, loses more votes than some repubs who have them
I wonder why he wasn't challenged.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:30 PM
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18. We were told by the state Dem party that they felt the challenger
would lose anyway, so they decided to focus on all of the other races. The Dems in Indiana aren't as strongly supported as the Republicans are--not as much money and hardly any big Dem names ever come here either because the Republicans are so strong. I feel like it has been changing lately, though. I've seen more volunteerism within my local party than last election (when I first became active) so maybe people are starting to become more active.

I've lived here since I was born (except for 2 years in Los Angeles) and my vote has never counted for much of anything. My Democratic presidential vote has never made it past this county. Indiana hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Lyndon Johnson in 1968. Hopefully, someday it will change. They just MIGHT turn blue if Bayh runs. He wins easily here even with Republicans because they respected his father, Sen. Birch Bayh.
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Frazzled Educator Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:41 PM
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22. Indiana democratic party is too fractured I believe.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:01 PM
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24. one more thing
it's so crazy, too, because Lugar has so much money to burn he's been running campaign ads and nobody is even running against him! They are more like "feel good" ads promoting what he has done.

I also have to say that despite his conservatism, he ALWAYS responds to all of my complaints in a cordial and polite way. He has some really good people working for him that have worked for him a long time and they know how to respond for him. His letters don't sound like a mass mailing, they are very personable to whatever you write to him about. I don't always agree with his responses but he (or his people) does give genuinely thoughtful responses. I STILL won't vote for him, though! lol He just doesn't go with my political leanings.

I can't say that for millionaire Rep. Chris Chocola of my 2nd district. If he DOES respond it's this generic comeback that he must've received from the party line. I hope he gets the boot he deserves. He's one of them that received PAC money from Tom DeLay. He received more than any other Indiana representative in the state! Yet people seem to ignore that and keep on voting for him! Blah! At least Donnelly is ahead in the polls. I sure hope he beats him!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:03 PM
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25. i am greedy. not good enough. n/t
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