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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:07 PM
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Our Constitutional Crisis and the Importance of this November’s Elections
The central issue in this November’s elections is the abject failure of our Republican Congress to deal with a Constitutional crisis which could result in the destruction of our nation as we know it. John Conyers’ great report, “The Constitution in Crisis – The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, Cover-ups in the Iraq War, and Illegal Domestic Surveillance”, says it all. The Constitutional crisis that we now find ourselves in is fundamentally different – and worse – than anything our country has faced since the Civil War.

The cause of this crisis is manifold, but there are two salient causes that are pertinent to this November’s elections: First, we have a presidential administration that, in addition to numerous other faults, has no respect for our Constitution, international law, or the rule of law in general. Indeed, they believe that no law applies to them. But more important with regard to the coming elections, we have a rubber stamp Republican Congress that, in addition to its numerous other faults, has passively complied with whatever the Bush administration wants to do. In short, we have a Congress that has forfeited their responsibility, as outlined in our Constitution, to balance the power of the Executive Branch of government – and which therefore has been complicit in the piece by piece dismantling of our Constitution. And needless to say, without a Constitution we have no nation as we know it. That is the major point that we should drive home to Republicans and Independents and anyone who might not vote for Democratic Congresspersons in this election.

Democrats can and should talk about other issues as well, including our many cherished ideals that set us apart from Republicans, and including the numerous recent scandals that have provided valuable insight into the true character of today’s Republican Party.

The Tom Foley pedophilia sex scandal is symptomatic of the “win at all costs” attitude of the Republican leadership. The Jack Abramoff scandal is indicative of a culture of rampant corruption which, for many Republicans has come to represent their routine manner of conducting business. The Bush administration’s allowing North Korea to become a nuclear power and then trying to blame that on a President who hasn’t been in power for the six years during which that country has advanced its nuclear program is emblematic of a presidential administration which is incompetent and dishonest to its core, and it also says a great deal about the character of a Congress which gives that administration its full and fawning support.

But beyond all of that, this election is about something much more important. It is about the survival of our country as we know it. The many crimes of the Bush administration against the people and the Constitution of the United States, and our resulting Constitutional crisis, are meticulously detailed in the Conyers report, which contains 1,401 references to back up its assertions. For those Republicans or others who might believe that Congressman Conyers is too partisan to be taken seriously on this issue, I challenge them to find any substantive inaccuracies in his report.

And no one should think for a minute that we have begun to feel the full effects of what will happen to our country if the Bush administration is allowed to continue unimpeded for much longer. Most tyrannies hold back on their worst abuses until they consolidate their power. And then it’s too late. Just think about the U.S.S.R. under Stalin, Germany under Hitler, or the conversion of the Roman republic to the Roman Empire.

We should vigorously urge Republicans and undecided voters to read Conyers’ report, while reminding them of the critical role that our current Republican Congress has played in the Constitutional crisis that Conyers speaks of. But for those who don’t want to spend the time, here is a summary of the salient issues:


The Iraq War

Conyers’ report proves that the decision by George Bush and his administration to go to war against Iraq had nothing to do with connections between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda, nor with involvement by Saddam Hussein in the September 11 attacks on our country, nor with the stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction or even the beginnings of a nuclear weapons program. None of those things existed at the time we went to war against Iraq. And not only that, but George Bush and his administration knew that none of those things existed. As the Downing Street memos show, the Bush administration used intelligence not to assess the need for war, but rather that intelligence was fixed around the need to justify an already predetermined decision to go to war. So all the while that George Bush was claiming that he was trying to give diplomacy a chance, the decision had already been made. And furthermore, plans to go to war against Iraq were already on the table in the first month after George Bush took office in 2000, and on the very day of the September 11th attacks those plans began to accelerate, even though there was no evidence whatsoever that Iraq was involved in the attacks.

In other words, the whole case for war in Iraq was a fraud. Assertions of a biological weapons program in Iraq were based largely on the claims of a witness (“Curveball”) who was widely considered by experts to be unreliable. Assertions that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium from Africa were based largely on a forgery which should have been readily apparent. Assertions that Iraq intended to use aluminum tubes to produce nuclear material were vigorously disputed by experts in the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). To support its case for war, the Bush administration even used confessions obtained through torture, which intelligence experts in the administration claimed were entirely unreliable because the confessions obviously resulted simply from the desire of the victim to stop the torture. As explained in detail by Seymour Hersh, the Bush administration consistently pressured the CIA to “produce” intelligence that supported its case for war, often against great resistance.

Of course, after we failed to find any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Bush administration changed its propaganda to claim that we were now fighting for Democracy for the Iraqi people. For those who believe that, consider the facts that hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians have died in this war, that polls of the Iraqi people show that they want us out, and that the first thing the Bush administration ordered upon taking control of the country was protection of the oil supplies, to the exclusion of everything else while Iraq was dissolving into chaos.

And most important, our Republican rubber stamp Congress has not seen fit to investigate or even complain about these catastrophic abuses of power.


Abuse and torture of prisoners and loss of civil liberties

Though George Bush has claimed that his administration does not use torture, that is clearly a lie. An abundance of evidence by human rights organizations and others clearly demonstrates that the abuse and torture of prisoners has been routine with the Bush administration. George Bush himself has defended the right of his administration to utilize torture (using euphemisms of course). He has produced memos justifying the use of torture. High commanders in the U.S. military have routinely encouraged it. And after Congress passed a ban on torture earlier this year, Bush produced a signing statement saying that he would not honor that ban. And furthermore, reports from human rights organizations such as the International Red Cross, and even our own military, have shown that the good majority of suspects who undergo these abuses and who are held in our prisons indefinitely and without charges and kept incommunicado from their families, are innocent of any wrong doing.

And worst of all, our Republican rubber stamp Congress has acquiesced (with only one Republican voting against) to the Bush administration’s demands, with their shameful recent passage of the Military Commissions Act, which gives George Bush himself the right to define torture. Aside from the fact that the torture provisions in this bill are morally shameful, disgrace the United States in the eyes of the world, obliterate fundamental rights provided in the U.S. Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, and put U.S. prisoners at grave risk of being tortured when captured, they have been shown not to work. The Act also eats away at our Constitution in other ways, for example by denying the habeas corpus right to dispute imprisonment by our government, by defining “enemy combatant” so broadly that we could be tossed in jail for merely criticizing our government, and by allowing secret military commissions to rule on cases of suspected terrorists.


Retribution by the Bush administration against those who disagree with it

The Conyers report goes into great detail about how the Bush administration has routinely sought retribution against those who disagree with it. The best known of these instances is the outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent as a reprisal against her husband, Joseph Wilson, for attempting to publicly rebut the phony Bush claim that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had attempted to obtain uranium from Africa. But there are many more similar instances which are less well known.

General Eric Shinseki, former U.S. Army General Chief of Staff, was ignored and shunted into the background for vigorously trying to convince Donald Rumsfeld that he was not committing enough troops to the Iraq war to successfully accomplish our objectives. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill was the victim of a Bush administration investigation because he made public the Bush administration’s plans to go to war against Iraq prior to the September 11th attacks. White House senior economic advisor Larry Lindsey was pushed out of office for accurately predicting the cost of the Iraq war. Richard Clarke, former Chief of counterterrorism in the Bush administration, was the victim of a Bush administration smear campaign after making public the many failures of the Bush administration’s non-attempt to prevent the September 11th attacks against us. Cindy Sheehan, whose son died in Iraq, was smeared by the Bush administration for protesting the Iraq war. Reporter Jeffrey Kofman was “outed” as a homosexual (see paragraph 4) by the Bush administration for publishing a report about the low morale of our soldiers in Iraq. Diplomat Jose Bustani was attacked and then fired (see paragraph 5) by the Bush administration for attempting to get weapons inspectors back into Iraq, which the Bush administration saw as an attempt to prevent war. And Bunnatine Greenhouse, former chief contracting officer for the Army Corps of Engineers, was demoted by the Bush administration for testifying to Congress about favoritism shown to Halliburton regarding Pentagon contracts.

And again, there was no reaction against or investigation into any of this by our Republican rubber stamp Congress.


Illegal domestic surveillance against Americans

Although George Bush has repeatedly assured American citizens and Congress that his warrantless domestic spying program is “legal” and directed at catching terrorists rather than spying on his domestic opponents, he has made no efforts to offer evidence for either of those assertions. Furthermore, knowledgeable sources have maintained that, though thousands of warantless wiretaps per year have been ordered and conducted by the Bush administration, fewer than ten per year are justified by the constitutional standard of “reasonable cause” for suspicion.

This program clearly violates both the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978 and the Fourth Amendment provisions of the United States Constitution against unreasonable searches and seizures. George Bush says that he must conduct this spying program without obtaining warrants because action needs to be swift in order to catch terrorists. But the FISA law allows warrants to be retroactive, so how can time be a factor?

Bush says that Democrats in Congress are against this program because they don’t think that it is important for his administration to listen in on the conversations of terrorists. That is a bald faced lie, and he knows it. No Congressional Democrat ever said or implied that. The FISA law does not in any way prevent the Bush administration from listening to conversations that are suspected of involving terrorists. What Congressional Democrats want is for our Constitution, which protects American citizens against abuses of government power, to be respected. Complying with the law will not prevent George Bush’s administration from listening to the conversations of terrorists. It will at least partially prevent them from spying on their domestic political opponents.


The bottom line

Congressional Democrats have repeatedly requested information from the Bush administration about its lying us into war, its torture policies, and its many other abuses of power and our Constitution. All their requests have been met with silence. And most important, the Republicans who control Congress have refused to do anything about this. But you can be sure that a Democratic Congress will investigate these abuses.

That is the central issue in this November’s elections. The Bush administration has prepared the ground for dictatorship through its gradual but progressive destruction of our Constitution. If it gets another two years to continue the job, under cover of another Republican Congress, it is very likely to be permanent.

On what basis do I say that? In addition to all the other abuses of power, a recent history of widespread election fraud and voter suppression in our country and the fact that we are increasingly utilizing electronic voting machines, produced by Republican allied corporations, that can be programmed to switch votes without leaving a trace, does not bode well for our future. Our Republican Congress continues to work towards the passage of laws that will entrench this system into our elections for the foreseeable future. If they get another two years I fear that they will be successful in that effort.

We have all heard many times the complaint that Democrats don’t have their own ideas. That is nonsense and simply a consequence of the Republican attack machine. The Democrats have a multitude of ideas, but our corporate news media usually doesn’t see fit to talk about them. If the only ideas they had were raising the minimum wage, providing adequate health insurance for Americans and investigating the abuses of power of the Bush administration, that would be more than enough to justify their election. I have included a more comprehensive summary of Democratic ideas in this post.

In conclusion, if you believe that our country no longer needs it’s Constitution, including its Bill of Rights, which protects our liberties, then you will no doubt vote Republican this November. If you believe that George Bush’s “War on Terror” justifies or requires permanent suspension of our Constitution, of the rule of law in our country and of the sentiments expressed in our Declaration of Independence, then you will no doubt vote Republican. But you should keep in mind that our Founding Fathers did not write our Constitution to be a suicide pact. Our Constitution was designed to protect us against foreign threats, while simultaneously protecting us against abuses of power by our own government as well. We are well on our way to losing those protections. But if you think that that’s ok because you or your children or your grandchildren do not and will never need protection against our own government, then I refer you to Benjamin Franklin’s famous quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

We have been gifted with a remarkable Constitution, which has served to guide us in the progress of democracy for over two centuries. But as Eleanor Roosevelt said, “The basis of success in a Democracy is really laid down by the people. It will progress only as their own personal development goes forward.” If the American people vote this November to continue down our path to destruction, that will signal that their ‘personal development’ is no longer consistent with the maintenance of a democratic nation.


P.S. – Conyers gives credit to the blogosphere for his report

Congressman Conyers says at the end of the introduction to his report:

I would like to give credit to the “blogosphere” for its myriad and invaluable contributions to me and my staff. Absent the assistance of “blogs” and other internet based media, it would have been impossible to assemble all the information, sources and other materials necessary to the preparation of this report. Whereas the so-called “mainstream media” has frequently been willing to look past the abuses of the Bush administration, the blogosphere has proven to be a new and important bulwark of our Nation’s first amendment freedoms.

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:29 PM
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1. K & R n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:29 PM
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2. Proud to be the first
K+R.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:12 PM
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5. You just barely missed it - but thank you
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:30 PM
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3. K & R - good length, useful for sending to unconvinced, well written n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:05 PM
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4. Thank you -- I very much hope that it is useful in convincing some people
For those who won't be swayed by Conyers' report, I'm afraid that they're beyond hope.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:59 PM
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6. K&R. Thanks n/t
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:29 AM
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7. kick & rec #5
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:39 AM
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8. Recommended.


Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 01:06 AM
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9. Been a long time my friend!
:hi:

Been thinking about ya.

-Hoot
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:58 PM
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26. Hey there ....
:hi:


Peace.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:38 AM
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10. Hi ul - Hope you're enjoying your new work
You must be very busy :hi:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:58 PM
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27. Overwhelmed, most days ....
:hi:


Peace.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:53 AM
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11. K&R.(nt)
:kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:19 AM
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12. Nice summations.
K&R
:kick:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:58 AM
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13. We owe Rep. Conyers a great debt of gratitude IMO for
his continued aggressive efforts to preserve our democracy.

If the Democrats take over the House he is going to lead some very important investigations into the crimes of the Bush administration, and those investigations should have a huge impact.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:06 AM
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15. I am looking forward to it. Keep your tvs tuned to Cspan when we take back
the House! K & R, excellent piece.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:37 PM
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24. Thank you -- I'm getting very much looking forward to it too
There's a lot more to be done between now and November 7th, and after that, but I have to say that things are looking much better now than they were even a couple of months ago.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:12 PM
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31. Things are looking better! I tell people that who are just getting into
what's been going on and are overwhelmed by the corruption. The more people become aware, the better support they can give frontliners like Conyers, Kerry, Gore, Edwards and everybody else who is vocal about their crimes.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:32 AM
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14. MARK Foley
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freedomchips Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:11 AM
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16. I just added this to my 40 page story about undoing all of their support
It's posted here: http://www.geocities.com/clarksapples/UndoBush.html

It's a story set in the context of a teacher discussing with his students how to undo all of Bush's support...and how to address the leadership vacuum that would ensue.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:37 PM
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28. Wow, that looks very interesting
I'll have to take a much longer look at this when I get some concentrated time.

Where are you planning on distributing his, and where in the story do you intend to put my post?
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:41 AM
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17. Next edition should include the fact that the number of lobbyists in DC
has DOUBLED during the last 6 years and that hundreds of corporate hacks have been put in charge of regulating the industries they came from.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:39 PM
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30. Yes absolutely, that is a major problem
We need some major house cleaning to take government away from the corporations and give it back to the to people. Something on the order of what was done by TR, or even better, FDR. Those things don't quite rise to the level of the abuses discussed in Conyers' report, but they are critically important nonetheless.
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madison Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:03 AM
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18. It's "Mark" Foley, NOT Tom Foley
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 11:05 AM by madison
Tom Foley is the former House Speaker.

MARK Foley is the sexual predator.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:45 PM
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21. Sorry about that
Can I blame my mistake on FOX News, since they claim that "Mark" Foley is a Democrat?
:blush:
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:49 AM
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19. Kudos to Time for Change and Rep. Conyers....
outstanding summation of the facts. A must read for all High School seniors imo.

:kick:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:11 PM
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29. Thank you -- Conyers' report is a must read for school students and the
American public alike. And yet, our corporate media has barely covered it.

But if and when Conyers gains control of the House Judiciary Committee they will be forced to cover his findings.

And then, two of the top issues on the Democrats' agenda will have to be restoring fair elections and getting rid of the corporate media's stranglehold over the airways.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 11:15 AM
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44. can't agree more
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MAX 1 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:04 PM
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20. EXCELLENT
Good work.

Conyers is one of the few real Patriots left in America fighting to Protect and Preserve the Constitution by really Defending it's true purpose. The laws provide the people of America their security, degrade their essence and America and Her people are no more secure but instead less so. Conyers seeks to shore up our foundation, our Constitution. His voice can not be silenced!

Those that choose the path to hell have no room to complain where their journey leads them.
America, which path has George W. Bush chosen to lead us down?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 02:34 PM
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23. Yes indeed, it would be almost impossible to silence Conyers
Conyers was also the one whose staff wrote "Preserving Democracy -- What Went Wrong in Ohio", regarding the massive election fraud during the 2004 election. Without that report we would still be much more in the dark about that awful attack on our democracy than we are now.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:47 PM
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22. Three cheers for the blogosphere!
Hip hip...that's enough, we have work to do.

Constitutional crisis sums it up nicely. What a pity that most Americans and most media have been and continue to ignore our Imperial President and his rubber stamp Congress.

With Conyers chairing the Judiciary Committee, at least the Constitution--which DUHbya called a "piece of paper"--will have a fighting chance.

Newsprism
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:53 PM
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33. Yes, it certainly is a pity
Hopefully, after these elecions we'll have heard the last of Bush declaring to us that he has a "mandate" to do whatever he wants.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:46 PM
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25. Between NOV and JAN
I am looking forward to the ground swell movement to start investigations into the criminal conduct of the Bush Administration. Democrat Lawmakers owe their constituency nothing less.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:31 PM
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32. Damn right they do
That's what we have laws for, and that's what have prisons for. They're not just for poor people, at least not in theory.

And if we don't investigate the hell out of this and really do something about it, we won't have long to wait before it happens again.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:40 AM
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34. Until they stop saying "Impeachment isn't on the agenda" . . .
. . .we won't see any meaningful action.

Rescuing our Constitution from "rule by signing statement" is IS Our Positive Agenda. Fighting for the impeachment and removal of Bush and Cheney is the only way accomplish it.

Tragically, the so-called Democratic "leadership" (which includes the Honorable John Conyers) is holding firm to the company line ("Hey, don't worry, we've got better things to do than defend the Constitution from systematic destruction by Bush and Cheney. We're not going to Impeach anybody!")

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:32 AM
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35. I partially agree with your points
There are few Americans who believe in the need for impeachment as much as much as I do, as I discuss here:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/68

And I strongly disagree with Nancy Pelosi's statement that she is "taking impeachment off the table", unless she puts it back on the table very quickly after becoming Speaker. And if she doesn't, she should be removed from her position IMO.

But I certainly would not put people such as Conyers in that category. Just because he doesn't speak openly of impeachment at this time doesn't mean that he won't support it when we have the power to do so.

His great report has done nothing less than prepare the ground for impeachment, and I have little doubt that it will be used for that purpose if and when we take control of Congress. His decision not to use the "I" word at this time is a tactical political decision, and I will not second guess him on that.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:56 AM
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36. Conyers is a champion. Disppointment is often most keenly felt when . . .
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:11 AM by pat_k
. . .those who have earned our highest esteem do not back up the truths they have spoken with the actions those truths demand.

From Robert Weiner's http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=72869">Sept. 21st press release (which has not been challenged by Conyer's office):

. . .Robert Weiner, who worked with Conyers as spokesman for the House Government Operations Committee under then-chairman Conyers before serving as a senior public affairs director in the Clinton White House, asserted that. . ."Impeachment is not on Conyers' current agenda. It is only a red herring on the Republican agenda.". . .Weiner says that Conyers has said and "has told me directly: 'I'm not going to conduct an impeachment. That would take all of our time. I would not want to bring an impeachment investigation because that would drain time and energy from the work that needs to be done, and it would take away the country's attention from issues that need to be addressed.'"


Taking impeachment off the "agenda" is a declaration that the actions of Bush and Cheney do not rise to an actionable level. Such a declaration is tantamount to exoneration. There are no rationalizations that can absolve members of Congress of their complicity in the crimes committed during the period they choose to give the criminals a pass.

The Honorable John Conyers, Jr. has been a lifelong champion in the fight for the soul of the nation. His failure to put impeachment first cannot undo the actions of a lifetime, but my high esteem for him does not give him a pass. Until he declares "Impeachment First!" he is as complicit as Congresswoman Pelosi and the other members who have taken impeachment off the agenda.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:45 AM
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37. Well, I'll continue to have an open mind on this
The fact that one person claims that impeachment is not on Conyers' agenda doesn't mean that that is a fact -- notwithstanding the fact that Conyers hasn't challenged it.

It may be that the Democratic leadership has decided to be silent on this issue, for political tactical reasons, until they have the power to do something about it. perhaps their reasoning is that, given that everything has been going their way, why risk bringing up an issue right before the elections, which could rock the boat. I don't necessarily agree with that reasoning, but then again, I suppose that the Democratic leadership knows more about political tactics than me. If keeping silent on this issue until after the elections will help them to gain a bigger majority in Congress, then I say it's worth it.

Then again, it's hard for me to fathom why Conyers would spend all that time putting together a long report that deals with grave crimes and impeachable offenses by the Bush administration if he doesn't plan to push action on that report. What sense would that make??
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 02:22 PM
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38. Doesn't make much sense, and that is the problem. . .
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 02:29 PM by pat_k
The inhabitants of the insular beltway social/political world (and the social is inseparable from the political) are trapped in a closed feedback system that breeds increasingly wrong-headed assumptions and "conventional wisdom." Within the "reality-based" community rationalization disguised as "realism" now dominates.

Rather than employing a rational process in which the a range of possible consequences, both pro and con, are weighed, we see them focus exclusively on the risks of acting (e.g., imagined/assumed bad things "they" will do). It is rare that the very real benefits of action and the very real risks of failing to act are considered. And when a principle they claim to be committed to demands action, they seem to be completely blind to the fact that their failure to act is a cynical betrayal of that principle.

For people who pride themselves on being reasonable, rational, and principled such irrational and one-sided thinking can only be explained if you understand that any closed system tends to give rise to idiosyncratic assumptions and habits of thought.

The reasoning that emerges from the insular-insider DC world must always be put to the test of logic and reality -- and when we do so, more often than not their so-called "strategic reasoning" is exposed as misguided rationalization for taking the easiest path. (Not surprisingly given the tendency we all have to grope for reasons to avoid things we believe will be difficult and unpleasant. And being shunned at Sally Quinn's next party is a gloomy prospect.)

As Nichols points out in "The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism" (cited in http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/14567">David Swanson's blog)

. . .
When the congressional Democrats failed to pursue impeachment as the necessary response to the Iran-Contra revelations of rampant illegality in the Reagan White House – rejecting the advice of Henry B. Gonzalez, the wily Texas congressman who alone introduced the appropriate articles in 1987 – they thought they were positioning the party for victory in the coming presidential election. Instead, Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush, having recovered from the gentle slap on the wrist he received from Congress for his own involvement in the scandal, was elected to the presidency in 1988 by a landslide, and expected Democratic advances in Congress failed to materialize.

Pulling punches in a political battle usually results in a knockout, with the party that holds back collapsing to the mat and struggling, often for a very long time, to finally get up again. And the Democratic Party of the George Herbert Walker Bush years, with its inexplicable penchant for pulling punches, runs the very real risk of being flattened not once but repeatedly if it fails to confront the issue of rampant wrongdoing on the part of the Bush administration."


The number 1 problem Democratic candidates face is the perception that they are weak. By failing to run on impeachment they have once again condemned themselves to sounding like morally-confused wimps.

As long as they are unwilling to take up the fight to impeach and remove -- the only moral option they have if they tell the truth about the Bush administration -- they must choose between two extremely damaging options:
  • Speak in weak euphemisms and double-talk that is consistent with the notion that Bush and Cheney have not subverted the Constitution, and thereby support the Bush as "strong man" propaganda (rather than Bush as Un-American and Unconstitutional unitary authoritarian executive) or

  • Tell the truth and accuse and then sound like wimps because they are unwilling to back their words with action.

Since they can't deliver on anything they promise unless they have some magical way to overcome "rule by signing statement, there is no upside to taking impeachment off the agenda.

Americans are desperate for strong leaders. Americans respect leaders who stand on principle in the face of risk. As President Clinton has pointed out, Americans will choose "strong and wrong" over "weak and right" (and I would add, strong and right is unbeatable).

The risk -- perhaps real, perhaps not -- that the mythical backlash beast would have risen up if they stood up is more than offset by a guaranteed negative consequence. If they win back the House and then wake up and stand up for impeachment, they will be perceived as hypocritical partisans who kept quiet until it was "safe" to stand up. Americans take a dim view of people who claim to stand on principle, but do so only when risks associated with standing up are behind them. Had they run on impeachment (e.g., offering Republicans the choice of swearing in Hastert now or Pelosi in 2007) they would have proven that their commitment to defending the Constitution trumps partisan concerns (as it should).

Whether or not they win one or both houses of Congress, taking up the fight to see Bush and Cheney impeached and removed remains a moral imperative. It is tragic that they have failed to inoculate themselves against charges of engaging in a partisan impeachment, but they will just have to take their lumps. And with the continued efforts of people like you, we will keep pushing them to do so.

You may be interested in the following post. It outlines the key counter-productive tendencies that the reality-based community must resist if we are to effectively fight to create a more perfect union.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2302569">Reality-Based Community: Do Our Strengths = Our Downfall??
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:51 PM
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39. Yeah, but chaos will reign if we give up our strengths
;)

Well that is a very interesting post, and you may be onto something, but I just don't know what to think about it.

You may have heard of the Center for Constitutional Rights, which is conducting "impeachment teach-ins throughout the country? They say that putting impeachment on ballot propositions will likely greatly improve Democratic turnout for the midterm elections. I'm inclined to agree with them, but would it scare moderates and independents? I don't know. Still, I'd like to see it done, but I guess it's too late at this point. Here's what I wrote about that subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1705842
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:39 PM
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41. Yes this bothers me. Impeachment is available precisely
for crimes against the constitution like those that have occurred. It is therefore, a clear dereliction of duty not to pursue it.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:29 AM
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43. I agree fully -- and here is something from the Center for Constitutional
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 07:30 AM by Time for change
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mkb Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:34 PM
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40. Try To Think Of Future, Even As We Live Now
     Let's not forget the many people who gave their lives for
the betterment of the world, like the Norwegian saboteurs who
attacked the Nazi heavy water facility that was designed to
make nuclear bombs.
     We can't predict which way the course that our government
will take, and many who live now and in the future will have
to make do with whatever situation arises.  We should live for
the long term benefit of humanity, rather than our own short
term desires, even though we often will do things we like,
when we can.  It's a difficult question, how much to
sacrifice, but I think history shows that many have before us,
and we should try also to help future generatiions live well.
     We hope to combine things we enjoy with that which helps
the common good the most, but there are always problems to
deal with.  Try to remember those before us who have
sacrificed for future societies.  If things go well, then
maybe suffering will lessen for as many as possible.
     Many people, including the most wealthy, do not share
this vision, and we must figure out how to live with this
reality.  I do not suggest open confrontation, but we think
that a Democratic victory will give us time to make the
choices better.  Good Luck.
 
      
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:27 AM
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42. Well said mkb
Yes, we believe that a Democratic victory thisr November will not only be better for humanity, but it almost a necessity.
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