SO, it's OK if the VP says f..k you on the Senate floor, but let....

[jhrobbins]

a liberal star say it to a heckler and it's the end of the world. The double standard is breathtaking and unrelentless.

[PurpleChez]

1. Who is this in reference to?

Who said eff you to who?

[LSparkle]

2. La Streisand to a heckler at a concert

She was doing a comedy routine with a * imitator and the audience member didn't get the joke ...

[PurpleChez]

4. Sorry...I just saw it on (sorry) CNN.

[Ian David]

3. Barbara Streisand didn't shoot anyone in the face, either. n/t

[TomInTib]

8. Neither did Cheney - it was his girlfriend.

I just found out the other day.

Seriously.

Unimpeachable source.

I just cannot afford to start a thread on it here.

[Virginia Dare]

5. In point of fact he did not say fuck you...

he said "go fuck yourself".

My freeper relatives were all venting their outrage over Teresa Heinz Kerry telling a reporter to shut up one day, and I threw Cheney's vitriol back in their faces.

Freeper chorus: Are you sure, I thought that was a Democrat that said that.

This is what years of listening to Rush Limbaugh will get you, unfathomable ignorance and delusion.

[berni_mccoy]

24. Another point: Streisand didn't say "fuck you" either

She said "Shut the fuck up."

:-D

[niyad]

6. question is, WHY would a bush supporter who cannot stand any

criticism of der chimpenfuhrer have paid the price of a ticket to one of her concerts? we all KNOW she is NOT a supporter of this regime.

[emdee]

18. Keith Olbermann said he is a professional heckler

according to Bab's manager.

Sounds right!
emdee

[Buzz Clik]

21. Is not Streisand also a professional?

[Toots]

29. Your point being????

You think being a professional heckler is in the same legue as a world wide star? Who paid the heckler to disrupt the performance? Why would someone pay to disrupt her performance. Is that a mean thing to do? It certainly is a Republican thing to do.

[Buzz Clik]

30. The heckler may or may not have been paid, but Streisand gets paid.

Even if we assume that this heckler was a pro (I haven't seen any real evidence of this -- just allegations and rumors here at DU), Streisand should have been able to ignore the comment. But, she didn't. And what's the result? The concert will be remembered for Streisand's outburst.

Heckler 1, Streisand 0

[Toots]

32. She got a standing ovation for making the comment what did the heckler get

:shrug:

[patrice]

7. The Right IS Right, hence, they can do no wrong.

That's a fact. It's the foundation of their thinking, not an exaggeration. This is why contradictions and hypocrisy mean nothing to them and their followers. Any exceptions they make, any rules they break, any dishonesty, A N Y T H I N G is justified by being Right.

[PurpleChez]

12. The closest church to home has a sign board that currently reads:

"Right Wing Christians Believe that God is Right"

and so it goes....

[patrice]

17. Yep. That's what I'm talking about.

They equate their own minds with God by assuming they know whatever it is that "God is Right" about. This justifies anything.

The nuns always used to say that blasphemy is the most dangerous sin, the one most likely to result in damnation.

[PurpleChez]

25. Another nearby church sign carried THIS blasphemy:

"THIS SIGN HAS CHANGED.
HAVE YOU?
-JESUS"

I actually emailed the pastor to voice the (very respectful) opinion that putting words (esp. trite t-shirt slogans) in Jesus' mouth was offensive for several reasons. Funny...I haven't heard back from him.

[patrice]

35. Well, see . . . If there's something you have to do (change) and you don't

know what, why, or how, you'll just have to go PAY for some professional help. Funny how much "authority" is for sale, do you suppose that has any affect upon it?

[edhopper]

9. A rw friend thought it was

horrible that Chevy Chase (yeah Chevy Chase of all people) called W an imbecile on Imus. But had no problem with the VP's remarks on the Senate floor. Logic and reason is not there strong suit.

[Toucano]

10. Ohh! Ohh!

I just realized something. We shouldn't call it a failure in their logic, we should call it "moral relativism".

Their moral standards shift and slide based on who they're being applied to. Just like conservatives have always accused liberals of being.

[PurpleChez]

13. I'm no pundit, but I've been bitching about that for years

and, for the most part, Dems/Liberals/Progressives have 'taken the high road' and done nothing to stand up for themselves. Long before Chimpy was even a dimwitted blip on the radar screen, right wingers liked (for instance) to spout about law and order and yet embraced folks like North and Liddy as heroes. They demanded zero tolerance when the kid down the street got caught with a joint, but they insisted (implicitly if not explicitly) that they had the right to exempt themselves from any laws they didn't agree with. Rove and President Trainable simply capitalized on a trend that was already there.

[truth2power]

19. LOL!

"President Trainable." Ha hahaha heh. :rofl:

Mind if I borrow that?

[PurpleChez]

26. Not at all.

I figured that it made the point, but (since it's an outdated term) without actually being offensive.

[0rganism]

15. definitely!

They think their "logic" is beyond reproach, since "logic" for them amounts to applying the simple axiom of whether they already believe it to be true.

That same "logic" dictates that moral relativism is an unforgiveable sin committed by liberals.

By implicating rightwingers with moral relativism, we challenge their anti-liberal credentials and throw them at the mercy of their own vitriol!

I like it.

[PurpleChez]

28. But the True Believers will still think that they are right

and the liberals are wrong. Still...it might have some effect on the moderate, less koolaid-addled minds on the right, to have this pointed out to them....

[0rganism]

34. Of course they will, but it'll pay off in other ways

TBers tend to be slow of mind and oriented to playing offense, so any time they have to spend making excuses for their behavior and explaining why it isn't liberal and they're still rightwingers is time they aren't using to plaster their True Beliefs all over the landscape.

I don't think there ever will be a way to turn the True Believers; the highest achievable goal, as far as I can tell, is to thwart their endeavors and blunt their impact on society.

[Supersedeas]

33. I guess the same standard applies to child predators as well

Show us your RW creditials and you pass Go.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

11. I'll post this anecdote again, because it's funny

This weekend at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Fest, Steve Earle led off the Songwriter's Circle with "F the FCC". Midway through he stopped an apologized for the language but said, "Who would you rather have your kids learn to swear from, me or Dick Cheney?"

My 10 year old cracked up.

[spanone]

14. But Cheney is a God and Babs is a Liberal. Sick ain't it.

[madmusic]

16. Why did she apologize?

[Buzz Clik]

20. Anybody here think it was okay for Cheney to say, "Go f*** yourself?"

Actually, I think Streisand uttering a similar phrase was showing more style and grace than Cheney. And Streisand was WAY out of line.

[jhrobbins]

22. The difference is, she apologized to the crowd later on-Cheny no way

[VOX]

36. No! Especially in his place of business. Had a mere mortal done the same..

He or she would have been canned on the spot. :grr:

[ComerPerro]

23. you're suprised?

[Hubert Flottz]

27. You'd think she'd gotten drunk and shot someone in the face!

All the fuss they're raising!

[Cha]

31. Two words..

Corporate Fucking Media..okay three words.