America ponders cutting Iraq in three

[spindrifter]

The Sunday Times October 08, 2006

Sarah Baxter, Washington



AN independent commission set up by Congress with the approval of President George W Bush may recommend carving up Iraq into three highly autonomous regions, according to well informed sources.

The Iraq Study Group, co-chaired by James Baker, the former US secretary of state, is preparing to report after next month’s congressional elections amid signs that sectarian violence and attacks on coalition forces are spiralling out of control. The conflict is claiming the lives of 100 civilians a day and bombings have reached record levels.

The Baker commission has grown increasingly interested in the idea of splitting the Shi’ite, Sunni and Kurdish regions of Iraq as the only alternative to what Baker calls “cutting and running” or “staying the course”.

“The Kurds already effectively have their own area,” said a source close to the group. “The federalisation of Iraq is going to take place one way or another. The challenge for the Iraqis is how to work that through.”

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2393750,00.html

[RufusEarl]

1. Isn't this the Joe Bidden plan? seems i remember him suggestion this.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

6. I believe it IS Biden's plan...

Think they'll give him any credit??

[MadMaddie]

2. That is really the only logical thing to do....remember that

before the early 1918 British rule they were three regions and Britain created Iraq.....this is probably the only way to stem the blood flow....but is it America's choice to do this or is it up the the three factions?

[MetaTrope]

10. Splitting up Pakistan and India certainly stopped that sectarian violence

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

13. Yeah, the British are responsible for this mess when they

drew the lines making up Iraq, to divide and rule the people of Mesopotamia, set them against each other there to try to get the oil. This is the pay-the-piper time for that. Still, I wonder how the divide-in-3 plan would work in practice. Baghdad and Kirkuk are both mixed cities, and in Kirkuk in particular, the Turkomen people are also major players. I wonder how those could be divided. Yet another F**k-up of the British Empire.

[Boomer]

3. The Kurds already effectively have their own area

Oh, Turkey is going to LOVE that!

Let's see just how far we can de-stabilize the entire region with more colonial imperialistic meddling. First we shove them all together, then we pull them all apart.

[LeftCoast]

4. Agreed. I don't see Turkey just letting that happen.

Unless we plan on being a buffer force between Turkey and Kurdistan, this is a bad idea.

[Boomer]

5. Yet another U.S. betrayal

We've repeatedly assured a very nervous Turkey that we will not create an autonomous Kurdish state. Such an action would support the "terrorist" Kurdish nationals inside Turkey.

Oh, yeah, and also inside Iran. Funny thing, that.

So we stab the Turks in the back in order to put a thorn in the side of Iran, plus try and salvage some part of the situation in Iraq.

After all, who need allies in the region?

[LeftCoast]

8. I'd forgotten about the Kurds in Iran!

That's a very good point!

[Bucky]

16. Yeh, but Iranian Kurds are a much smaller minority

This is going to be provocative move, if they do it. I'm pretty sure the commission will recommend against any measure beyond homerule for Kurdistan. Full autonomy would screw up the only peaceful region in the country.

[Fridays Child]

7. Won't this cause trouble regarding who gets the oil? Wait a minute...

What was I thinking? The U.S. gets the oil. Silly me!

(Baker's) group will not advise “partition”, but is believed to favour a division of the country that will devolve power and security to the regions, leaving a skeletal national government in Baghdad in charge of foreign affairs, border protection and the distribution of oil revenue.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Well, that's "democracy" for you. The U.S. deciding Iraq's fate.

Maybe the day will come when the Chinese or Venezualans or Mauritanians will decide to split America up.

Actually, it looks to me that the Iraqis ARE deciding their own fate and the geniuses of the PNAC are reduced to bystanders to the fait accompli.

[TahitiNut]

19. Balfour redux.

:puke:

[Selatius]

11. We're screwed anyway. I say go ahead and partition the country.

I say that if we are to form a loosely-held confederation of three states, then it should be put to the ballot for the Iraqis to decide. If they reject it, fine. If they don't, just as well.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. And this would be a free and independant Iraq determining

its own future, all sovereign and everything, almost.

[slaveplanet]

14. This was the plan from the get go

I heard about this before the war started.

and like clockwork here it is.

I didn't know Biden was touting this also, but it explains a lot about Biden.

BTW...there is a similar partition plan for Iran.

This stuff comes straight from the top of the NWO globalist architecture.

[Bucky]

15. How is it globalist if they're cutting the country into smaller pieces?

Nah, the neocons have been shooting down this suggestion since the summer of '03. This will scare the shit out of the Turks who don't want Kurdistan to gain its own powerbase.

I've never heard of a plan to partition Iran. Who is talking about that? What are the divisions--I thought Iran was much more homogenous than Iraq, which has always been a polyglot.

[slaveplanet]

17. The plan

(I think it came out of Bilderberg) was to use America as the muscle(Bad cop-enforcement arm) let the situation deteriorate, build 14 permanent bases as islands, Then hand the whole shebang over to the good cop (UN or Nato forces). Partition it in 3 pieces so Iraq could never unite and the oil could never be nationalized. Same thing for Iran but I think they're talking about 9 or more partitions there, If I remember correctly.

[TomInTib]

18. I know it for a fact.

I was in a conference room at Purvin&Gertz, Houston, and saw the plans that were drawn up to accomplish exactly the partitioning.

And they are planning on population redistribution, as well.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

20. Yeah: Divide Iraq in three: Regular, Premium, and Unleaded!