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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:12 PM
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Democrats ALWAYS favored WAR!Johnson, Kennedy,Truman, Roosevelt, Wilson
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 09:18 PM by KoKo01
in the 20th Century...so how is it Repugs claim Dems ARE WEAK ON DEFENSE?
(Of all of them...I think Wilson did try to urge "peace/diplomacy" before WAR. But the record is still out on him...I think..)

The Causes of the Vietnam War
Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy all gave their word that the United States would
stand by ... Lyndon Johnson saw the Vietnam War as a test of his mettle, ...
www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/vietnam/causes.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

John Kennedy and the Cold War
Even more telling is the fact that when Lyndon Johnson did make the decision to
go to war one year later, the advice he took came entirely from Kennedy ...
mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk5.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

Cold War
In 1947, President Harry Truman also spoke of two diametrically opposed systems: one
... On October 27, another letter to Kennedy arrived from Khrushchev, ...
www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhibit/coldwar.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

Lyndon B. Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He cited the growing division within the country over the war as his reason.
The Democratic nomination eventually went to Johnson's Vice President Hubert ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_Johnson - 101k - Jan 23, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

Before the Holocaust: The Cold War and Cambodia
Meanwhile a new war between North and South Vietnam escalated. The French were
long gone from the scene, so American presidents Kennedy and Johnson ...
www.edwebproject.org/sideshow/history/coldwar.html - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

Presidents and States of the United States
Real wages now went down to so low a level that when the war ended, ... At the
same time Truman had desegregated the United States military. ...
www.friesian.com/presiden.htm - 101k - Jan 22, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

Vietnam and the Presidency Conference
On Kennedy: Professor David Kaiser, Professor of Strategy and Policy, Naval War
College, author of American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of ...
www.jfklibrary.org/pr_vietnam_war_conference_2006.html - 19k - Jan 22, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

Foreign Affairs - Lyndon Johnson and Foreign Policy: What the New ...
... Joseph P. Kennedy that went back to the 1930s, they regarded Johnson as a ...
He had seen President Truman lose control of the Korean War when Chinese ...
www.foreignaffairs.org/.../david-fromkin/lyndon-johnson-and-foreign-policy-what-the-new-documents-show.html - Similar pages

Online NewsHour: Making a Case -- September 13, 2002
BERNICE JOHNSON REAGON: I was thinking today about the whole issue of PR and ...
Truman went to war without asking a declaration from Congress, Kennedy and ...
www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/july-dec02/historians_9-13.html - 29k - Cached - Similar pages
Truman Library - Public Programs
Niel Johnson as Harry S. Truman: Historian and former Truman Library archivist
Niel Johnson ... "Cold War Secrets" talk begins "War and Media" conference ...
www.trumanlibrary.org/program1.htm - 101k - Jan 22, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

Woodrow Wilson
Finally in April of 1917 Wilson delivered his war message to Congress. ...
The act also targeted those who might "urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment ...
www.chicora.org/woodrow_wilson.htm - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:15 PM
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1. Bush favors, but can't win, wars
he's not fit for the job
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:17 PM
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2. He doesn't know how to pick wars he can win
or win wars he picks... He doesn't know how to fight a war
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:20 PM
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4. He doesn't have the "wide expanse of history" guiding him because he
told Bob Woodward...when asked: "How would you like to be remembered in History?" Chimp replied: "Who cares...we'll all be dead."

Kind a sums up what we have running the WAR in Iraq ..doesn't it. :-(
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:33 PM
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9. I remember that insane comment!
He probably feels the Lord is coming soon, so it doesn't matter. As long as he fans the flame of Armageddon, he's doing the Lord's work. I guess...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:52 PM
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15. Yes...that was my worry when I heard that. Woodward kept repeating
it over and over on his book tour. Maybe it even bothered his Grinchlike mercenary soul to hear a President say something like that. :shrug:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:18 PM
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3. Because Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh say so...I guess
So does most of the "Liberal Media"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:22 PM
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5. And a public who has missed all the most basic US History lessons....
:eyes: It's more important to teach "Creationism" than US History to the "masses," I guess..these days...
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:24 PM
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6. Militarism of the Dem party is not something anyone should be proud of.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:30 PM
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8. Absolutely...but when Repugs TAR US with WEAK ON WAR...the evidence
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 09:32 PM by KoKo01
is much to the contrary....

I'm an Anti-Iraq Invasion DU'er...so you know... But, can't understand how the Repug "Swift Boaters & Fundies" can go AT US...when we've been at the forefront of every war in the 20th Century (the bloody Century..according to many historians...who chose to ignore other "Invasions and Occupations" in History)...but nevertheless...the 20th Century was a VERY BLOODY CENTURY...and it seems the 21st might go down Topping it ..if the clueless, hapless Repugs get their way. :-(
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:00 AM
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16. I understand that. Let's fight the repugnant ones by saying we will
not fight in wars of aggression. Save our military for true self-defense. It won't be needed except in extraordinary circumstances.

It won't help us, or the planet, if we elect dems... then they attack Iran, Syria, Venezuela.

What was the difference between the bombs dropped by lbj and nixon? I doubt if Vietnamese peasants could tell the difference.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:28 PM
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7. War is easy to sell, peace is difficult.
Politicians of any stripe don't mind a bit of slaughter to further their ambitions. There's always a bogeyman to erect to keep the populace obedient.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H.L. Mencken
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:35 PM
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10. True...but just remember the PNAC'ers pride their Bio's on being liberals
who "turned."

I think there's something we need to think about there. Remember the Mantra was that we didn't win Vietnam and maybe Korea because we "cut and ran."

Just something to think about...
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:38 PM
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11. Not since Vietnam.
Carter and Clinton were clearly not warmongers. They favored diplomacy with "sensible" defense policy over the unbridled jingoism of the right.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:38 PM
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12. Typical Repub crap
They claim that Democrats are the ones to start wars, and that they are peaceful-just before they start wars.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:40 PM
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13. True, Dems aren't wimps at all
And they would not shrink from using military if they had too, even some freepers admitted this I saw in a thread over there.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:57 PM
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14. Liberals favored wars for defense and a few misguided anti-soviet
affairs. Really, USA was late, late, late in signing up for WWI & WWII.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:02 AM
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17. They manage to say both, somehow
That we are weak on defense, and "how dare you say that Republicans are warmongers when it was YOU guys who started them all."

Not to mention how much into peace the Republicans were when it was Clinton at war in Bosnia. Why, they sounded just like... DEMOCRATS!!
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