Republicans and their gay underworld. (The Texas Mafia)

[Hoping4Change]

Back when Gannon was making headlines, Padcraig Pearse, self-described as a "seasoned gay man of a certain age" at Daily Kos posted the following diary about the gay Republican underground. Given the Foley cover-up this provides fascinating insight into gay Republicans and the extent of their influence in the Bush Admin.

The following is an excerpt from the Diary.


"Gay facts and fantasies in Propagannon research
by padraig pearse
Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 05:42:54 PM PDT

As a seasoned gay man of a certain age I'd like to examine some of the facts that have been unearthed and to infer these facts' larger meaning from the perspective of a gay "insider".

REPUBLICANS AND THEIR GAY UNDERWORLD

Three days ago I spoke with a contemporary of mine, who'd been a regular at CBGB's and places like the 9th Circle who had become a staunch Republican. Although he lives in DC we met in one of the old 70s landmarks we'd each known 30 years ago as he was visiting New York for a few days. (He was keen to tell me about the Constitution Ball he attended this year.) When I asked him just what all this was about, all these secret gays - the whole pack of them - he gave me one of those looks that says "Girl, this says it all" and said, in a whispered tone, "Karl Rove."

He refused to elaborate. As he was off-the-record I'll keep his name off the main dairy for the moment until I speak with him again. I don't think he's near as well connected as he'd like to be but I take it - on face value - as a fair estimate of the gossip current in DC `s gay watering holes.

Given the astonishing number of alleged CLOSETED gays in key White House/RNC positions and in their MEDIA outlets it really baffles me how they get away with the amount of malicious and damaging gay baiting they do.

*snip*

That many Gay Republicans should prefer the closety games of the 1950s over the open Gay culture that arose out of the post Stonewall era should come as no surprise. They are reactionaries after all. In fact, I know Gay men of a certain age and income who routinely excoriate "the fags" while nonetheless indulging appetites and behaviours that would leave Margaret Sperling's head spinning. But since the lights are out in their orgy rooms, good Republicans are happy to just overlook and pretend not to see. It is the public avowal of affection that makes them crazy over the gay marriage issue. To compare Gay marriage to a perversion, as right next to bestiality is on the face of it insane. Gay people seeking to have stable monogamous relationships accepted into their families and their communities are, in key respects, far more conservative and traditional than the many gays in the republican party who scuttle around in the shadows, procuring illicit sex and using sites like MilitaryEscortM4M.com."

*SNIP*


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/19/204254/937

[nashville_brook]

1. knr for "orgy rooms"

i read this back during the Gannon frack. it's a great piece with an authentic voice. there's much more where that came from too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=332074

[Hoping4Change]

5. I remembered this when Jon Stewart or Colbert showed a clip last nite

of a repuke (was it Newt?) who said that had Repuke leadership made a fuss over the initial emails that were brought to their attention they would have been accused of gay bashing.

Initially I assumed that he meant progressive gays, but then I recalled Padcraig and wondered whether Repukes have to tread lightly with gay Repukes and in fact protect them.

:freak:

[Virginia Dare]

2. What gay underworld would that be?

[Swamp Rat]

9. Just ask Jeff Gannon

He knows a LOT about the gay Bushler White House underworld! :D

[originalpckelly]

3. I've always found it interesting that those who are against gay people...

are usually the ones with 6 FT Poles up their asses. ;-)

[Bitwit1234]

4. They'll never come out

because they need the money train and acceptance of the religious right wing nuts. Those so called righteous men Dobson, Farwell and Robertson who steal money from the poor and reward themselves with all the rich trimmings, jewelry, homes, cars, TV networks, and businesses. These people and their organizations give the republicans free campaign and stealthy money for their re-elections.

[Swamp Rat]

6. yep

[Swamp Rat]

7. "... behaviours that would leave Margaret Sperling's head spinning."

:rofl:

[Carni]

8. I have suspected this since first viewing Bush & Rove

This whole admin reminds me of J Edgar Hoover--just a vibe I have always had.

[Hoping4Change]

11. Its chilling that just as closeted gays construct a heterosexual facade,

ratboy and his repukes have constructed a family values facade. These facades cover a multitude of "sins". I see in another thread that one of the pages who came forward is now being threatened.

[Carni]

14. It really is chilling eom

[Subdivisions]

10. Fostering Relationships:

[stanwyck]

12. Gay conservatives are in hell

not because I believe they're damned. But because they've made their own hell.
They can't live healthy, normal lives like other gay people.
Their lives are filled with secrecy and self-incrimination.
I feel sorry for them. Really. Their self-loathing is palpable and ultimately soul destroying.
Rush is a gay man who has had three or four "Rock Hudson" type marriages which are arranged for cover. He hasn't cohabitated with his wives.
That's sad. Really.
And he has to sneak off to the D.R. for companionship. Meanwhile, happy gay couples love each other openly.
Then there's the pathetic Jeff Gannon, with his bizzaro faked military background and fake name. And the burden of his embarrassing website photos. He couldn't get that coveted press pass unless he pretended to be someone else.
These people put themselves into constricting little boxes. They construct hell for themselves.
At least McGreavy can now live a normal life, now.
All the closeted gay conservative cabal should follow his lead and embrace their sexuality.
Their lives are so sad as they are now.
Look at Foley. He's in hell.
It didn't have to be this way.

[Hoping4Change]

13. I think that is an extremely naive view. The men who make up

this Velvet Mafia are wealthy, powerful and adept at getting their needs met. Many men who lead closeted lives can derive intense pleasure with deceiving people, they can derive sadistic pleasure playing head games with wives. This is not to say that all closeted gays are unconflicted about their deception, but to describe them all as suffering is way off the mark.

[stanwyck]

17. I just don't see how fulfilling life can be

when you live in constant fear of exposure. Rush Limbaugh is just one chatty boyfriend away from losing his public identity. And that man has an ego. He'd be as thunderstruck as Foley.
Conservatives live by their carefully constructed public personas. They can't absorb the normal vagaries of human nature because they've spent so much time railing against human frailty.
Rush is a drug addict who spoke witheringly of drug addiction.
Foley championed harsher treatment of sexual predators.
Coulter, whatever her sexuality, believes in the second class citizenship of women, derides the ascendancy of working women, yet in her own life, she doesn't embrace the domestic bliss of marriage and motherhood she believes is every woman's destiny.
It's impossible to me that people who live with such duplicity are happy.
Their lives are not a match for what they have gone on record as their hard fast beliefes.
Think how much healthier for closeted gay conservatives if they lived openly and were proud of themselves. In all respects.
This is very sad to me.

[Hoping4Change]

18. The very chilling and telling aspect is that these men are not

living in dread of being found out. These men know that their backs are covered. Tehy have powerful and influential friends. As Padcraig describes their situation, their lifestyles are obscure only to the wider public, within circles of power they are not cowering mouses. This sense of confidence is I believe why Foley let his guard down. It is obvious that he became reckless about his sex preferences.

Again I would say that many people with what could be described as criminal mindsets derive pleasure by conning people and living on the edge.

[HardRocker05]

15. any closeted gay repugs not male and white? gotta be a connection there-

i mean how often do you hear of a closeted *lesbian* republican being outed? Of course there are more white men in politics in general, but i think that there has got to be whole bunch of self loathing and loathing of all the other 'inferiors' going on.

[w4rma]

16. The corrupt powerful use social issues to divide regular Americans

against one another.

They pass laws to protect themselves from the laws that they mean to enforce against regular people.

Many of these corrupt people engage in unspeakable acts away from the cameras. It is how they can support torture so easily.

I believe that the way that a politician voted on that torture bill is a very good indicator of character and of how they likely act while the cameras aren't on them.