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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:25 PM
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So, now we know why Ashcroft stopped flying commercial?
Obviously that briefing contained some very specific info; it would have been nice if we had been given the same information, wouldn't it?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:25 PM
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1. LIHOP and MIHOP are the only reasons
we wouldn't have been told.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:32 PM
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13. Not LIHOP and not MIHOP
The Bush administration did not want it out that they had dealt with the Taliban terrorist government for oil and gas pipelines.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:37 PM
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14. which precludes neither LIHOP nor MIHOP
nor explains why they purposely ignored and squelched terror warnings
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:26 PM
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2. it's what we've been saying all along
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:27 PM
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3. When Did He Stop
flying commercial? And how do we know this?
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:29 PM
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5. Here's how we know. here's a link
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 10:31 PM by democrat in Tallahas
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:29 PM
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6. August of 2001- it was widely publicized
he never denied it-
I'll try and find some of my ancient links- but many of them are gone-
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:28 PM
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4. They doomed those passengers by not raising the alerts for
and all of the victims of 9/11....blood is on their hands....
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GOPEC Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:30 PM
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7. July 27, 2001
I'm pretty sure I remember it from doing a cartoon. It was covered. You should be able to google it.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:31 PM
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8. He stopped flying before July 26, 2001
He knew. And so did Bush.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:32 PM
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9. Discussion here, too
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:34 PM
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10. For the record
we have known this since it was reported.

What's going on is these things gain a freshed signifigance in the current context.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:43 PM
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11. CBS news reported it in July 2001
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:50 PM
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12. And now we know this was a lie.
Specifically:

"Asked if he knew anything about the threat or who might have made it, the attorney general replied, "Frankly, I don't. That's the answer."

Well, frankly, you did. You had the memo. Lying sack of shit!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:07 AM
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16. Of COURSE the Admin knew. They KNEW enough to have pix of all the
alleged hijackers, including the ones who were mis-identified posted all over the media within 2 hours of the event.

They knew who the players were and what they were going to do and where they were going to do it from.

They just didn't bother to stop it.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:12 AM
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15. He didn't.
From the fact checking team for Fahrenheit 911:

As proof of its scrupulousness, the Moore team cites adjustments it made to the film's portrayal of Attorney General John Ashcroft. The film is brutal to Mr. Ashcroft, depicting him as a glassy-eyed architect of efforts to shred the Constitution, who became Attorney General only after he proved himself so unpopular in his home state of Missouri that he lost a Senate race to a former Democratic governor who died in a plane crash a month before election day. "Voters preferred the dead guy," Mr. Moore deadpans in the film, a line that drew belly laughs at recent preview screenings. (In reality, voters knew they were in effect casting ballots for the governor's widow).

An earlier version of the film, however, included a reference to a widely circulated charge, broadcast by CBS News in July 2001, that Mr. Ashcroft had received warning of threats and stopped flying on commercial airlines. Tia Lessin, supervising producer of "Fahrenheit 9/11," said the reference to the CBS report was cut after Mr. Moore's fact-checking team found evidence that Mr. Ashcroft had flown commercially at least twice that summer.
nytimes


Does this mean he wasn't aware of the warnings? No. It only means that it's not true that he stopped flying on commercial flights.
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