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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:46 PM
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The United States of America, 1776-2006. R.I.P.
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to mourn the passing of a great idea.:cry:



The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
- Samuel Adams

It would be easy for us, if we do not learn to understand the world and appreciate the rights, privileges and duties of all other countries and peoples, to represent in our power the same danger to the world that fascism did.
- Ernest Hemingway

Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
- Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall

Fascism is not defined by the number of its victims, but by the way it kills them.
- Jean Sartre

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
- James Madison

The worst crimes were dared by a few, willed by more and tolerated by all.
- Tacitus

What is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage.
- Marcus Tullius Cicero









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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:49 PM
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1. Love the Tacitus and Cicero quotes...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:20 PM
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8. Me too...
They're brilliant in their simplicity.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:49 PM
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2. I couldn't agree more.
When my husband came home from work this evening and asked me what I did today, I told him that I watched America die.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:59 PM
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7. "that I watched America die"
to the sound of silent indifference. It's like a bad dream.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:50 PM
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3. thank you
I swear to god most people have no fucking clue what has happened today. NONE!

:cry:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:53 PM
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4. I know. I've listened to people obsess about trivial stuff all day...
and I just want to scream at them! The woman who sits next to me at work - a really nice woman - kept going on and on about the stock market reaching a record at some point this working. I just wanted to say, "So the fuck what! We've lost our country."
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:54 PM
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5. the Founding fathers will be 'turning in their graves'
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:54 PM
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6. the Founding fathers will be 'turning in their graves'
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:29 PM
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9. 1776-2000.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:31 PM
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10. Very true. That was the beginning of the end...
:(
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:35 PM
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11. I think the beginning of the end was November 22, 1963
n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:38 PM
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12. Spot on! That was THE coup.
Everything since then has just been the mop up.

sw
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:39 PM
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13. Very possible. I suspect more & more that Poppy & Prescott had
something to do with that.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:20 AM
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19. Wouldn't put it past them...
This family is nothing but bad news.
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:41 PM
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14. Sadly it is no longer we the people.
I must now get back to my mourning.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:48 PM
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15. She was great while she lasted ...
... she will be missed.

Here's to each other:

:toast:

We are now fellow countrymen -- still united, but sadly without a country.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:52 PM
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16. The D.U.S.A.
The Democratic Underground States of America. :) :toast:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:21 PM
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17. Thanks, marmar ...
... for the first smile I've had in forty-eight hours.

DUSA? I LIKE it!!!

:toast: and, oh, what the hell :smoke:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:37 PM
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18. Anytime...
When the rest of the world doesn't seem to get it, your DU family always does!

:grouphug:
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One Voice Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:35 AM
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20. K & R for the morning,
and the mourning. :cry:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:38 AM
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21. rip
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