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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:50 AM
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I know a mercenary
This mercenary spent time in Iraq doing special security detail on Rumsfeld, Allawi, etc.
He is former military and former Secret Service.
Before 911, he and a colleague formed a small security company in DC.
Then, before they had a chance to get it off the ground, he took contract work.
Now, they are both back and decided to get their company off the ground.
A well-known mercenary company, B----r, offered them $3 million for their company, then a million a year each to run it.
It is a company designed strictly for domestic security.
One has to wonder what is up...
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:53 AM
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1. a lot ppl that got Bush special tax cuts
have domestic security to protect them from the have nots.........
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:54 AM
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2. They've got to protect the "Let them eat cake" crowd. N/T
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:55 AM
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3. Is he a bad ass, kick ass sort of mustache?
I think it was in a New Yorker article I read the other day, that security cost on a so-so Iraqi politician is around twelve thousand per day.
The ones that have been getting knocked off couldn't afford protection.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:57 AM
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4. Yeah
He is very good at what he does.
He looks like a male model--you would never ever guess him to be what he is.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:05 AM
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6. Dumb question coming up......is he a role model for the younger
generation? Like giving tips how to kact a prick in four seconds.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:19 AM
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7. No.
He is married to and worships only at the altar of the almighty dollar.
He has no desires to be a role model for anything.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:03 AM
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5. "It is a company designed strictly for domestic security."
:yoiks:
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:34 AM
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8. Protection of the ruling class is only part of the story. Because...
private security is presumably exempt from Constitutional oversight, private security agencies are defacto friekorps whose stormtrooper members can do whatever they choose: torture, rape, kill, loot etc. This power will become increasingly vital to the corporate oligarchy as American economic reality worsens in the years ahead. To understand just how vital -- that is, to what purposes the friekorps are likely to be deployed -- we need (1) a team of analysts and (2) every possible detail on the deployment of mercenaries in New Orleans: their chain of command, their weapons, their communications systems, their transport, how they were tasked, and (of utmost importance) how they behaved in the field, not only toward the subject population, but to other organizations within the operational area: military, law enforcement, etc. From this data it would be possible to construct an estimate that would reveal ruling-class intentions -- intentions not only of the Bush Administration but the corporate oligarchy in general -- at least for the next two years.

The principle here is a simple one: much as the intentions of the Axis Powers were readily discernible in German and Italian deployments during the Spanish Civil War, so are corporate ruling class intentions readily discernible in the aftermath of Katrina, especially in the savage treatment of lower income peoples in New Orleans.

My guess -- and it is only a guess (based primarily on German history) -- is that the powers that be are building a private army as a hedge against the possibility the U.S. military establishment will prove "unreliable": that is, refuse to violate its oath to defend the Constitution (which Bush has already scornfully dismissed as merely "a piece of paper"). This was the purpose behind the German Nazi Party's private armies: the friekorps, the Sturmabtelung (SA), and the Schutzstaffel (SS). While private armies are technically illegal in the U.S., the corporate oligarchy has obviously found a way around the law, proof of which is the deployment of mercenaries in New Orleans; the associated pay-scales merely underscore the magnitude of corporate support.

The fact corporate media chose to suppress this story -- downplaying it and then sweeping it under the proverbial rug rather than investigating it and exposing its tyrannical implications -- is especially ominous.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:48 AM
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9. Thank you for your reply.
Very brilliant.
But one thing that I have wondered and cannot ask this person, is why would B---r want these small, basically non-production as of yet agencies? They don't want to dismantle it. They don't even want to change the name.
Is this strictly to attempt to cover the identity of who actually owns it or to confuse?
It really makes no sense to me at all.
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usedtobesick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:52 AM
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11. The answer to those questions is Yes...
all of the above. You can do so much with a smaall shell company run by people who are willing to be "covert" about who and what you do...
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:22 PM
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23. Thank you for the OP. Yours is what called "a very good catch":
a small detail by which an entire picture may be clarified. As to the use of small, basically non-operational agencies, my guess is that it is a variant of the "cell" plan traditionally used by revolutionaries whether left or right (e.g., a much scaled down version of the four columns of the "Four Insurgent Generals" of Spain: Franco, Yague, Mola and Sanjurjo, and their Fifth Column of fascist infiltrators -- the origin of the term "fifth column" -- in Madrid).

I put "Four Insurgent Generals" in quotes because it is the name of a song sung by the International Brigades in their breathtakingly valiant defense of the Spanish Republic against the fascist uprising:

The four insurgent generals
The four insurgent generals
The four insurgent generals
Mamita mia
It's true they betrayed you
It's true they betrayed you.

One Christmas holy evening
One Christmas holy evening
One Christmas holy evening
Mamita mia
they'll all be hanging
they'll all be hanging.

Madrid your tears of sorrow
Madrid your tears of sorrow
Madrid your tears of sorrow
Mamita mia
We shall avenge them
We shall avenge them.


May American liberty have such valiant defenders should it need them in the days and years ahead.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:01 PM
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24. I hope so as well
However, my guess is that we "might"--unless of course there is a neck-in-neck race on American Idol or Survivor.:scared:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:33 PM
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16. didn't Gen. Smedley Butler
state that the industrialists that were attemtping the coup against FDR had a private army Ready and waiting?
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:49 PM
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21. Not quite; the plan was to use the American Legion...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:51 AM
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10. security companies are the new dot coms...they will bust eventually.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:03 PM
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13. The difference is, when they go down
they have the capability to go down shooting.

Twenty years ago it was all about the private militias. Now, the private "security companies". But it's all the same heavily-armed ideologues occupying the fringes of legality. Many may be well intentioned, but the set up is an obvious magnet for criminality.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:12 PM
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14. Very good point, infact...
If they do go down, I see them morphing into a new "mafia". Now isn't that something to hope for...

oy
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:29 PM
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15. Didn't the Mafia begin as a peasant resistance movement
after Napoleon took over Italy and Sicily?

From such noble beginnings...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:27 PM
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19. yes, it did. however, going off on a tangent...
my grandfather left Italy, because that same peasant resistance movement realized that they could shake people down for protection money. After Napoleon left and there was a power vacuum prior to Garibaldi, the papal states ruled again. They squeezed the little guy until even the poor couldn't go to church because they couldn't contribute to the collection plate. In stepped the Mafia again (they really hadn't left), once of noble roots but over time set the foundation to which they became infamous.
There were many "arguments" between the church and the mafia, basically over who controlled what and territorial expansion. Buy the time my Grandfather left, the Communists had a deep influence on the poor (they stepped in where the Mafia originally had), because now, either the Mafia was shaking them down for protection or it was the church was squeezing them.
This was basically the picture in very southern Italy at around 1900.
So it begs the question, are we now witnessing the wholesale green light for a new better equipped "mafia" with these mercs? Because at some point we will be out of Iraq and a whole new generation of mercs, who were used to being paid very well, will suddenly see the gravy train coming to a halt. This is a very interesting concept. Who will be the power movers in the latter part of this century? Scary concept to ponder...
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:04 PM
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17. With the wealthy pulling further away from the poor these security
companies will have growth for years to come. Remember this is the new Amerika under MR Danger.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:58 AM
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12. kicking
nt
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:17 PM
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18. I'll tell you what's up
More than likely your friend is part of a vast conspiracy to round up so-called "subversives," AKA extreme lefties, and put them into work camps to prevent them from spreading the truth about how we are all slaves to the corporate nation. Eventually on our driver's licenses we will have some kind of indication of our political leanings. And slowly but surely the left wingers will be gathered up a little more every year, eventually creating a nation where only the most extreme right wing person is allowed to roam free.
I imagine your friend's role is to help establish these work camps and ensure they are unescapable. That or he is in charge of finding the who the first group to be rounded up will be. I would be careful what you say around this friend, he may turn you in a soon as his orders come from one of the ten people who secretly control the world.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:51 PM
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22. !
:scared:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:07 PM
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25. I can believe that you are close to the truth.
Dissidents are not well tolerated in totalitarian societies.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:30 PM
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20. kick
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:11 PM
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26. For the right price, he wouldn't think twice about putting a bullet ...
in YOUR head.

Now, do you consider this man a "friend."

Think again ...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:22 PM
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27. I never said he was a friend
It is someone I know.
But, I understand exactly what you are saying and I know without a doubt that you are 100% correct.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:37 PM
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28. Nobody has asked what politics this person adheres to?!
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 06:43 PM by JanMichael
I mean we can all assume he's a right-wing nutcase however that would be presumptuous.

So what is he? Repuke? Dem? Green? "Libertarian"? Socialist?

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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:41 PM
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29. Uusually, politics is not usually important to hired assassins.
Money, and "the rush" is all that matters.

Vile creatures.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:44 PM
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30. I honestly have no idea
The only loyalties that I have observed are to the almighty dollar and his mom.
He has no other loyalties.
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