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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:36 AM
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Matthews: “People Misunderstood What I Said Last Night”


http://www.thinkprogress.org/
Matthews: “People Misunderstood What I Said Last Night”

Last night on Hardball, Chris Matthews said Osama Bin Laden “sounds like an over-the-top Michael Moore, if not a Michael Moore.”

Tens of thousands of people visited a website — http://openlettertochrismatthews.blogspot.com/ — demanding Matthews apologize to Moore.

During tonight’s show, Matthews didn’t apologize. Instead he claimed that he was misunderstood:

MATTHEWS: Why is he doing it? Why is he trying to track what he picks up in the internet and from the media as the lingo of the left in America, like Moore? Why would he start to talk like Moore? People misunderstood what I said last night. I think he’s getting some advice from people, he’s getting some lingo, some wordage that he hears working in the United States about this thing for war profiteers and he’s jumping on every opportunity. Is that what you are saying Joe?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:37 AM
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1. chicken shit.
:rofl:
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neverevergivein Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:37 AM
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2. If you watch Chrissy boy
the terrorists have won.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:41 PM
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42. F-9-11 made 3/4 billion worldwide while Chrissy only reports the news
Michael Moore creates the news.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:39 AM
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3. if he had meant that should have finished with, half our nation has the
right to express their beliefs without the other half saying they comfort the enemy cause obl picks up on their legitimate protest. but he didn't defend us did he. it basically is, all that disagree with bush, shut up. see obl will pilfer your words. bad dems...... once again
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:41 AM
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4. Should he take your advice chris?
Urge bush to keep sending those ill-defended American Soldiers into the field so insurgents can continue to slaughter them. Is that your advice chris? And for how long? Five years, ten years? Until 10,000 flag draped coffins come home? What a fucking constitution hating moron you are. Or does cheney and rove have some good pictures of you tucked away in a safe place?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:41 AM
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LOL! Bin Laden is USING THE INTERNETS! uh... yeah...
right.

If that were the case, the majority of what he'd be reading is right wing rhetorica. The words of liberals rarely make the mainstream media. It's pretty much all bushlies all the time.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:05 PM
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27. and why wouldn't he reading Left sites??
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:29 AM
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46. Left wing sites saying what? The kkkarl rove talking points?
Where on DU for example, one of the premiere left wing sites on the planet, are any of the 'points' made in bin laden's fake tape? It's ALL ripped straight from republican hate radio tawking heads... Kkkarl Rove flipping wrote that script. I'd stake my life on it.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:41 AM
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5. these pieces of crap make my blood boil
they are the enemy, their cruelty and complete disregard for the other half of the country.

ya right Osma is reading left wing blogs so that he can learn their talking points.
it terrifies me that these monsters are able to get away with this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:41 AM
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:43 AM
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7. Dang... I must've missed this in the spray of spittle...
Standard fare for what has become MSRNC.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:43 AM
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8. I understand it. You did it again.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:48 AM
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9. Bin Laden's comments
about Bushco profiteering etc are common knowledge throughout the world. Just because bin Laden says it doesn't make it less true.

Like some one said in another thread - if bin Laden said smoking was bad for you does that mean to be patriotic you have to encourage everyone to smoke?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:49 AM
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10. Typical Republican
"I was misunderstood"
"I didn't mean what I said"

and the idiot sheeple just lap it up, over and over.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:50 AM
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11. "Picks up from the media" bwahahahahaha
Where the fuck would he ever hear anything from "the left in America" in the media? All he'd ever hear is the saliva laden ravings of this fat soft scared punk.

You know I really regard Tweety as the lowest of the low. He's not a true believer like insanity or o'lielly, he's just trying too hard to say all this outrageous shit to impress the haters, and you can tell it. And to their credit they aren't fooled by it either. Most real rw'ers think of him as a pussy which is what he is.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:51 AM
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12. see this also for a bit more detail.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/matthews-responds-to-blog_b_14189.html
Matthews Responds to Bloggers: "People Misunderstood What I Said Last Night"
READ MORE: 2006, Saddam Hussein

For those of you following the Hardball scandal,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:53 AM
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15. good comments below also


.On the heels of a statement from John Kerry, massive pressure on MSNBC and Matthews from the blog community, we get an on-air reaction within 24 hours. Many will rightfully slam Matthews for this tepid non-apology apology, but the lesson here is simple: the netroots working with party leaders can put tangible pressure on the traditional media and "close the triangle."

This is a long, hard, but viable struggle and the target - as I've said many times - is not Rush or Hannity, but the "trusted" reporters, the "neutral" ones, the ones who shape public opinion precisely because they're supposed to be giving us the facts, not the GOP spin. Maybe it's credit to Matthews that he's still in that category. If he stays away from Fox-lite tactics, he might just regain our trust.

UPDATE: A trusted blogger friend (as well as commenters on this post) tell me I'm being too easy on Matthews for his response to the blog community. My focus in this post was more the fact that there was a response, and less the content of the response itself, which was slimy. But process analysis, triangles and political constructs aside, Matthews only riled the community up further and MSNBC's (and CNN's) jerk to the right continues to be a sorry sight indeed...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:51 AM
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13. Matthews sounds more and more like an over the top Rudolph Hess
Or, if you prefer, a Rudolph Hess. Why is Matthews doing it? Why is he engaging in hero-worship bombast for a president who has publicly confessed to breaking the law? Why would he support such high crimes and misdemeanors? I hope Mr. Matthews doesn't misunderstand what I'm saying about him.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:56 AM
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16. Because he wants to keep his job with GE/NBC.
Matthews is cowardly scum with no ethics or morals. He would sell his country down the river for money.

The right-wing worships mammon and has loyalty to no nation.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:20 AM
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50. Good point. Hess was sort of Hitler's Ed McMahon
and Matthews wants the same sort of thing.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:52 AM
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14. No misunderstanding that he is spreading the rightwing talking points
Matthews must not liked be called out when people realize he is no different from all the other right wing Bush enablers who thrive on diminishing and discrediting liberals instead of asking crucial questions about Bush Admin failures and lack of credibility.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:56 AM
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17. My thought
Just because OBL is a psychopathic terrorist doesn't mean he's a pathological liar. Then there's the argument that it's a set-up--that it wasn't OBL at all. Which begs the question--who was it? And who is HE working for?

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:56 AM
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18. Look - Matthews just needs to have his sorry as* fired
He has proven over and over again that he really has no concept of reality - and there is little reason for him to continue broadcasting. His butt needs to be fired. Period.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:59 AM
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19. Hey Chris, how 'bout the likelihood the taped remarks were written
originally in English, using terms which resonate with Americans? How is that not a possibility?

And if that is possible, isn't it possible the remarks came from someone IN America, say, someone who announced, the very next day, that GOP candidates should run on the terror threats issue instead of the issues facing millions of Americans every fucking day?

Fuck you, Chris. You sold out and now you whine about being called on it. Fuck you! You are not a journalist, you are a stenographer...
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:01 PM
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20. Dems = terrorists
Call me paranoid but I firmly believe that this is where it is all going.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:01 PM
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21. LOL, Moore responds to Matthews, love it!
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=5598



The caption under the pic is:

After planning terrorist actions all day, Matthews and Osama enjoy a cold one.


This is just one of the pics, be sure and check out the rest!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:05 PM
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26. ROFLMAO That is GREAT! I was hoping Moore would respond.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:02 PM
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22. SCARBOROUGH: "Listen
growl.......

SCARBOROUGH: "Listen, if somebody can't look at the words that Bin Laden said last night and match them up with what Michael Moore said, with what John Kerry said on Face the Nation with he said Americans were terrorizing Iraqi women and children in their homes hat night, which is what Bin Laden in effect said. What Ted Kennedy has been saying. Remember he said after Abu Ghraib that Saddam's torture came bers were turned over to -- chambers were turned over to new management, U.S. troops, that's the same thing Bin Laden hit on."
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:03 PM
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23. As Stephen Colbert would say: Chris Matthews - You're dead to me!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:04 PM
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24. Of course, Chris... you neglect Option #2:

Which is, that these conveniently timed "Osama" tape releases are manufactured bullshit.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:07 PM
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28. I can not say that with certainty. Jr and OBL need each other.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:13 PM
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30. I can't say anything with certainty
but I do know we're being lied to.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:04 PM
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25. Or, in the (in)famous words of Ron Ziegler:
"That statement is no longer operative."

Channeling Ron Ziegler

Amazing how everything old (Nixon) is new (*boosh) again.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:09 PM
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29. The tape was phony. Matthews is genuine. It's all too convenient.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 12:11 PM by higher class
Timing. Emphasis of message. Rambling. And as noted by a professor - there was no reference back to the Koran and was thought to have been written in English and translated to Arabic.

Matthews is a genuine veteran propaganda pusher working for a genuine propaganda arm of the right wing. We know that much is genuine.

The CIA said it was his voice, but what do we believe when it comes from Goss?

It was fascinating to note the spin that accompanied the tape. It didn't make sense and while it takes corporate propaganda tv time to get the talking points about an event before the pushers crank up, all the pushers were saying the same thing on very short notice. So, it really wasn't breaking news, was it?

What was it? From their handling of it, it was trivia.

Orwell. Come back and narrate all this for us.


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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:24 PM
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37. Actually CIA says "It APPEARS" to be his voice
Any time they throw in a little disclaimer like "appears" it says to me that they have no idea who the hell it is but their asses are covered either way.

I am in the camp of the tape is bullshit and distributed in the spirit of calling Dems UBL supporters and Matthews is just doing his part and lining his pockets.

I still think however that pressure should be put on MSNBC to issue an actual apology--this shit should not be allowed to stand!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:14 PM
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31. I just sent this to MSNBC
To whom it may concern at Hardball;

I stopped watching Hardball years ago when the show insisted on trotting out that loathsome Pat Cadell on a nightly basis to berate Al Gore while Mr Matthews cheered him on...

Mr Matthews at that time was so obviously infatuated with George W Bush and so totally engrossed in the bashing of all things relating to Clinton/Gore...
that I ceased to tune in.

Over the last couple of months however, I had heard that Mr Matthews appeared to actually be hosting guests with some insightful info about the Scooter Libby/Karl Rove investigations--and I made the mistake of giving Hardball a second chance.

Mr Matthews has once again proven that he is some type of political hack for this Bush administration by comparing Michael Moore to Osama Bin Laden two nights ago --

By comparing M Moore to UBL... Chris Matthews was apparently showing his support for the Rove/bush doctrine that views Democrats or detractors of Bush's horrendous, inept leadership and policies as terrorists or enemies of the state.

Chris Matthews and MSNBC owe Mr Moore and Hardball's viewers an apology for his ridiculous and demeaning remarks comparing any Bush detractor with Osama Bin laden.

I will not be tuning into Hardball again any time soon and your network should be ashamed of itself for allowing this very UN-American partisan stunt by Mr Matthews to stand.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:14 PM
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32. Blackball Hardball
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 12:16 PM by Zambero
I e-mailed Matthews and informed him that he'd gone way over the line one too many times. And that from now on, in our house what was once viewed as Hardball is now irrevocably BLACKBALLed!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:17 PM
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34. Good for you Zambero...
:thumbsup:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:17 PM
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33. my email letter to Tweety...we did not misunderstand you tweety!!
i just sent this to tweety...


We did not misunderstand you and since you find it nessesary to now have your own blog, are we to insinuate that you are the left now?? What a joke!

No, that could not be misconstrued...you are a rabid right wing mouth peice for Karl Roves talking points , nothing more..you are not a journalist, you are a pitiful propagandist!

What Chris , you couldn't do a story about the failing economy? Or seniors not getting their meds under bushies new plan so much so that they are lining up at emergency rooms?? No i suppose you couldn't find that story in Roves talking points...why don't you sit in a pharmacy for a day and see the tears and frustration of seniors who can't get their meds...see, as someone who now goes directly to the internet for real news and real truth ,sans Rovian TALKING POINTS, I HAVE SEEN THE SENIORS WHO STAND IN THE ISLES IN TEARS!! But it seems you despise those of us who no longer trust your lies and propaganda......POINTS SPEWED BY YOU.... to quote you.."Why is he trying to track what he picks up in the internet and from the media as the lingo of the left in America"

I did not misunderstand you one bit , nor have i for over 3 years..you are a shill for the right wing..you are Goebbels for Bush..and you disgust me more than anyone i have experienced in my 54 years..i only hope you pay dearly one day for what you have done to my nation..and i hope i am there to see it!

You see Chris, all of us are not blind to your whoring for the bush cabal! I see it clear as a full moon, on a clear night!

I made a choice some time ago to put your network on child block along with Fox ,and CNN the other propagandist networks..i would rather be in a pit of snakes than watch you sell snake oil to the ignorant or uninformed! You are irrelevant now..

Now why don't you question Bush on why the man who killed my co-workers on 9/11 is still running free ? Free enough to send a phoney assed audio out for bush to use for his sotu address, since he can no longer do his speech on a good economy and medicare prescript cards!!

Nor can he say his Republican boys in Congress are doing a good job, as that "good job" would have to encompass taking bribe money from his good ole buddy Abramoff...or his two boys who sold the prescript program to our weakest link in this nation..the elderly, as they ran out the door for their lobby jobs for the pharmaceuticals...while selling snake oil to the sick and weak and our greatest generation!

Nor can Bush say a word about tapping my phone lines for the past two years..as i get a little nuts about it, as do all the other Americans who see their rights, birth rights Chris that are now in the toilet with your guy bush!


http://www.angelfire.com/hi3/pearly/htmls2/right-goebbels.html
Goebbels and today's mass mind control : Part One Online Journa...
Although Hitler's propagandist used mass mind control for more sinister goals, ... In part one, we examined the fact that Hitler's propagandist, ...



Do some reading Chris, as you may wake up and have the same fate as GOEBBELS...or, your children will pay directly for your sick pathetic selling of America..down the neo con toilet...they will not be spared...as no one will, when these sick bastards get done destroying my nation!

signed
xxxxx

fly
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:19 PM
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35. Matthews is a grubworm
he can't get king george's dick out of his throat long enough to say anything coherent
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:21 PM
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36. Stop watching CM, write letters to the advertisers and boycott their
products. Spread the word.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:27 PM
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38. If Osama bin no-longer-Forgotten were really smart
and wanted to cause mass confusion throughout the land, as cognitive dissonance overloaded TV's talking head brain circuits on a massive scale, on the next tape he'll say "If the infidel, Yankee, imperialists want to stop our terror attacks they must remember to always buckle their seat belts, never drink and drive, make sure their young ones wear their bike helmets and always be sure to return their trays and seat backs to the upright position before landing."

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:33 PM
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39. funny how he wants US to watch our language
but I'm sure he reserves his right to say ridiculous crap he wants without rebuke. He's a clown, an entertainer, and not very entertaining at that.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:06 PM
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40. Chris Matthews should
watch Amy Goodman`s Democracy Now for ten minutes then return to his show and repeat what what a great lineup he has for that night. He`s nothing more than an overpriced Gumby Doll who can, in a matter of seconds, bend his positions to fit the guest. One minute he`s bragging about the good old days in the Peace Corps, then seconds later....WHAMO!....he`s a rabid, bomb-loving Rambo. He`s both balls in a ping pong match. His only consistency is staying inconsistent.

If this is the best MSNBC has to offer, I suggest they go off the air and use their brains to create a new toilet bowl cleaner.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:17 PM
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41. Mathews was dead wrong comparing UBL to Michael Moore, apology needed for
being misinterpreted if that in fact is the case??
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:44 PM
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43. is their a link to answer Chris at
My answer is "because osamma works for PNAC"

why else everytime bush is in trouble out trots
osamma ?

come on Chris use your head .
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:46 PM
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44. But you can't stop watching can you?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:09 PM
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45. Maybe tough-girl Chrissie should forward OBL the link to
freeptardia . . .

That way, OBL could see what he would be up against . . . and he would commence shaking in his boots . . .

NOT!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:36 AM
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47. Matthews vs Moore - in the ring - no gloves.
Each can allocate 1/2 of the tickets.
ALL proceeds to their charity of choice.


Moore donates to ACLU and misc unions.
Mattews to some religious 'charity' few have heard of.


DING - DANM- I want to be able to continue...
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:42 AM
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48. Fuck. You.
That's all I have to say to creep-o, Matthews.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:48 AM
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49. Bull shit. This is another smoke screen to cover up the CRAPPY tape they
made. It is obvious that the speech was not written by a native speaker of Arabic, let alone an Islamic fundy nutjob. :eyes:

I guess I need to make a pic of Tweety one of these days, since he's such a tool. :eyes:


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