Pakistani Man Slays Four Daughters For 'Family Honor'

[The Straight Story]

Pakistani Man Slays Four Daughters For 'Family Honor'
Wife Watched In Horror As Daughters' Throats Slit

POSTED: 7:35 am EST December 29, 2005

MULTAN, Pakistan -- Nazir Ahmed appears calm and unrepentant as he recounts how he slit the throats of his three young daughters and their 25-year old stepsister to salvage his family's "honor" -- a crime that shocked Pakistan.

The 40-year old laborer, speaking to The Associated Press in police detention as he was being shifted to prison, confessed to just one regret -- that he didn't murder the stepsister's alleged lover too.

Hundreds of girls and women are murdered by male relatives each year in this conservative Islamic nation, and rights groups said Wednesday such "honor killings" will only stop when authorities get serious about punishing perpetrators.

The independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said that in more than half of such cases that make it to court, most end with cash settlements paid by relatives to the victims' families, although under a law passed last year, the minimum penalty is 10 years, the maximum death by hanging.

http://www.local6.com/news/5706322/detail.html

[madeline_con]

1. I wonder if the mother should now....

slaughter the sons to prevent them becoming men like Dad. :eyes:

[theoldman]

2. This is culture, not religion.

Their culture goes back thousands of years and only education will change their way of thinking. Just think of how people believe in rural areas if the United States.

[napi21]

3. Isn't this a strong part of some Islamic cultures?

I've heard of this happening many times before. Although it sounds terrible to us, isn't this an accepted method of dealing with an daughter who disgrases the family by having sex outside of marriage?

[maxsolomon]

6. its a strong part of MANY islamic cultures.

its been happening among the muslim immigrant population in France. its bloody medieval.

i know that this TECHNICALLY is not affixed to Islam, per se, but, like Genital Mutilation & Clitoral Excision, it sure seems to happen in Muslim cultures a lot.

maybe they need an Enlightenment, or at least a little tolerance.

fuck his honor.

[Warpy]

4. I still think this has more to do with

the dowry system than family honor. A laborer with four daughters knows he's got a ticking time bomb on his hands in a conservative country where a women's worth is based on how much money she brings into a family at marriage and how many male heirs she produces within marriage.

It's a combination of a bad man coping with an evil system.

[manic expression]

12. I'm not sure about that

The belief that women protect a family's honor is really big in many (poorer) Islamic communities without any dowry systems. Honor killings are becoming quite frequent in Iraq, and to my knowledge, the dowry system has nothing to do with it (our little invasion had a lot to do with it).

Also, unless I haven't been seeing any reports, but such things do not happen in India (as much, at least), where the dowry system is pretty corrupted (but is becoming gradually less important).

All in all, I don't think this was caused by the dowry system, at least primarily.

[MN ChimpH8R]

5. There really aren't words for this kind of barbarism

It may not be required, even by neanderthal Shari'a law, but one sees this only where Islam is the religious backdrop. The clergy has done not one thing to stop it. Animals are allotted a considerably higher value than females in these so-called "cultures." :puke: :grr:

[Warpy]

7. Well, a fundie is a fundie is a fundie

and polygamous Mormon groups believe in the "blood atonement" spoken of by Brigham Young:

"Lebaron along with other violent fundamentalist Mormon groups claim that these murders are performed on the advice of early Mormon leaders including Brigham Young, who on a number of occasions gave recommendations like this:

"Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God.

"I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and would do so with clean hands."

http://www.watchman.org/lds/splinter.htm (not the best site, but the quotes are valid)

Screwball offshoots of patriarchal religions always seem to have some form of "honor" killing of women, and her crime is always sex.

It's not Islam, folks, it's PATRIARCHY.

[maxsolomon]

8. in this specific case

but the genital mutilation is typically performed by women, and many of these retarded, anachronistic, misogynistic cultural beliefs are enforced by the mothers. they had to, so their daughters have to also, or the failure of their own submission is exposed.

in many many ways, humans are still horrible apes.

[Redstone]

11. Well, thanks for having the guts to say that.

We do indeed want to be tolerant and understanding of all religions and beliefs, but this is indeed the dark side of Islam.

There's something fundamentally wrong going on there, and you had the courage to point it out. Anyone flames you for expressing your opinion, just know that someone appreciates your telling of the truth.

Redstone

[Rex]

9. When is death by hanging to good for a person?

When they slaughter innocent children.

[Lefty48197]

10. This is a hideous tradition.

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