How many managers are there at McDonald's? (Trick Question)

[Tyler Durden]

ONE.

The shift managers are not managers: they are just slightly elevated McDonald's workers with a slight raise, a title, and a potential to be blamed for anything that goes wrong.

We cannot all be managers. If everyone goes to college and gets an MBA, then MBA's will face shelves at K-Mart and flip burgers. All of this "...it's only and 'entry level' job, and get an education, blah blah blah..." is the worst kind of cruel delusion that the world and the rePukes have perpetrated on the population. Entry level jobs MUST feed people and support families or people will not be fed and families will not be supported.

WE CAN'T ALL BE MANAGERS. There's only ONE per McDonald's.

Time for a little Socialism, maybe kiddees?

[William769]

1. I'll go one better

Let's get get rid of McDonalds.

[Tyler Durden]

3. don't just think McDonalds.

ANY outfit with management: just one per department/location/shift.

My point was, WE CAN'T ALL BE MANAGERS.

If everyone is a MANAGERDOCTORLAWYERMBA, then we'll ALL work for minimum wage, except our manager.

[tatertop]

2. Socialism sounds excellent right about now

[bryant69]

4. That's a weak argument

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by socialism. The fact that not everybody can win inspires people to do their best and to outperform their competition. In socialism there is no incentive to do better than anybody else (except of course out of the goodness of our hearts (which means we will all be getting new hearts)).

This is an argument that we should have a safety net and minimum wage, rather than argument for socialism.

Bryant
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[Tyler Durden]

6. safety net, (living) minimum wage...SOCIALIST!

You are missing the point here.

Life does not have to be a contest with one winner and a dozen losers. And by the way, "The fact that not everybody can win inspires people to do their best and to outperform their competition." inspires NO ONE and discourages DROVES with the "I can never win, so why try?"

Until "Wealth of Nations" is taken LITERALLY, and Human Resources are indeed valued above all others, your "inspiration" is simply greed times opportunity.

[Tyler Durden]

9. And by the way...

If you believe that being the best plant manager at a plastics plant that makes little pieces of crap to put on cars is a worthy way to "outperform their competition," then there's no arguing with you.

There's only one life we're going though here: work hard, kill the competition, be "king of the hill," and die anyway. Time for a little more HUMANISM and a little less CORPORATE CAPITALISM.

[Trillo]

11. "I'll gladly pay you tommorrow for a hamburger today."

OH, work harder, harder they say,
work smarter,
work more hours,
work for less, so you can get ahead one day,
we promise, promise,
if you work harder and smarter for less,
one day you'll have more, making your life easier.

One of the severe weaknesses of capitalism appears to be the few people it truly rewards (like CEOs) versus the many who get only empty promises of future rewards that never really arrive.


If the minimum wage is ratcheted up to a true living wage, say, $21 per hour, then won't it cause non-minumum wage compensation to also rise in lockstep? Recent history suggests that the lockstep rise for those workers will be a larger multiple than the increase to the minimum creates for the base group. What is the way out of this cannard of capitalism? How does one bring back "the middle"?

[Tyler Durden]

12. You can't bring back "the middle."

It's gone.

At least until the Revolution turns everything upside down AGAIN, everything settles down AGAIN, and HOPEFULLY, there won't be and "UPPER" to worry about screwing the rest of us ever again.

But I doubt it.

[SPKrazy]

5. This has always been true though!

I blame * for a lot of things

but businesses will usually only have one manager

and there is already a surplus of MBA's in America

[Nikia]

7. But isn't that true of college in general

That except in a few fields that there are more college graduates than jobs requiring a college degree. As a result, a fair number of college graduates end up with jobs in which their degree does not give them an advantage. Despite this, we are encouraging more students to go to college despite mounting college tuition costs and less of a guarentee of a decent job.
As for the managers, the three assistant managers at the fast food place I worked at in 2000-2001, all made salaries in the mid $20,000 range which is around what new college grads can expect to make also.

[SoCalDem]

16. My college educated son sometimes makes $1000.00 a day.

How?

He does not rob liquor stores or sell his body.

He does custom tile work.

He's more or less self-employed these days, has all his own equipment and tools, and has more referrals than he can handle.

He's a Nat'l Merit Scholar, summa cum laude guy, who LIKES to work with his hands. he's also an artist..

Another son (my oldest) did not even graduate high school ( :grr:.) but he makes $300K a year (bigshot computer guy)..


college degrees do not guarantee much these days, and skills are more valuable right now.

luck has a lot to do with it too.

[Yollam]

8. Wasn't calling everybody "manager" about skirting OT rules?

You remember the recent changes that were passed to deprive about 8 million American workers of OT protection?

[davidinalameda]

10. that was one way companies were doing it

and making who groups of people non-exempt or exempt or whatever the classification is for employees that you can work 24/7

[AllegroRondo]

15. Correct

Call them a "manager" and you dont have to pay them overtime.

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

13. I remember

I had friend of mine got a seasonal job once at a spencers gifts in a mall. The place had 5 regular employees and then hired 4 seasonal employees, they made the 5 regulars all managers, which is crazy for a store with 9 employees!

[B Calm]

14. I asked my McDonald's manager for 1/2 dozen McNuggets, the

manager said I'm sorry, we only sell them in packs of six, eight or twelve...