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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:09 PM
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British MPs To Call For Blair's Resignation Over Support For Bush...
British MPs To Call For Blair's Resignation Over Support For Bush...

Demands for Tony Blair to quit over his support for US President George W Bush in the Middle East are to be taken to Labour's annual conference next month in a direct challenge to his leadership by left-wing Labour campaigners.

An emergency resolution will be sent to all constituency Labour parties calling for Mr Blair to quit because of his "disgraceful" policy in Iraq, and for a leadership election within two months of the conference.

Mr Blair will seek to shrug off the challenge, but it has been tabled by leaders of the Campaign for Labour Party Democracy, who successfully backed four candidates elected to the National Executive of the party, including the veteran anti-war campaigner Walter Wolfgang.

The calls for Mr Blair to go will be boosted by the burst of support for John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, since the The Independent disclosed that he said President Bush's performance on the Middle East road map was "crap".

more at:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1220294.ece
via:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:12 PM
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1. For those who are confused, "table" means the opposite thing in the UK.
In the US, to table something means to kill it. In the UK and Canada, it means to propose it.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:19 PM
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33. Thanks!
Makes sense now!:)
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:55 PM
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34. Why Can't You People Speak English Like Us?
Seriously. :sarcasm:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:13 PM
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2. bush is worse than bliar.
That bush is "crap" is the worst-kept secret in the world. Prescott's just the kid who vocalized his observing the chimperor's lack of clothes.

The UK is calling for bliar's resignation; when will US politicians call for bush's resignation?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:23 PM
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3. O Happy Day! Do it!
:hurts: Flush the nasty little turd.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:27 PM
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4. Please, oh please let this happen...
It would be even sweeter than Lieberman's tumble.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:51 PM
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5. God, I hope they have the votes to oust him.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:14 AM
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7. They don't.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:08 AM
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14. Your user name tricked me!!
I thought your user name was the title and your title was the post: Thankfully in Britain they don't (have enough votes to oust him). Sigh, either way your assessment is depressing.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 02:58 AM
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36. yes, my username does suck
Ah well, nevermind.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 11:36 AM
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38. Your User name doesn't suck!
What's depressing is that there are not enough votes to oust Blair (although I cannot claim to be in Britian which is depressing and IS reason for you to be thankful!):hi:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:20 AM
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6. British MPs To Call For Blair's Resignation Over Support For "Crap"...
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:55 AM
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8. They certainly have my support.




And :thumbsup: to Prescott as well.



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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:59 AM
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9. nice to see a real democracy at work.
Wish we had one.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:42 AM
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10. Please 'splain me...
Is this where Blair has to really duck, dodge and do some fancy footwork to avoid a vote of
"No Confidence" in order to keep his position as Bush's Poodle Prime Minister?
I'm not really up on British parliamentary procedure...

:popcorn:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:56 AM
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12. No this is the Party Conference
not the House of Commons.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:21 AM
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13. So does it go from there to the House of Commons?
Or does it get to the House at all?
(crossing fingers and hoping)
...thinking that if Blair falls then a lot of the support for Bush goes buh-bye...:hi:
which would be (as Martha Stewart says) a Good Thing.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:20 AM
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15. The party alone can bring you down
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 11:28 AM by malaise
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:00 PM
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20. The Labour Party can oust him
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:55 AM
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11. Adios Bliar
to The Hague
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:14 PM
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16. Good! (nt)
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:43 PM
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17. it would be a great start...
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onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:52 PM
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18. It's about time!
Enough IS enough!
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:59 PM
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19. This could be the beginning of the end for our Iraq fiasco
If Blair is ousted, then the U.S. will basically be going it alone in Iraq. There will be increased pressure on us to make an effective solution, to force the Iraqi government to become self-reliant and the security forces to be battle-ready. With elections just a few months away here in the states, things could move quite fast if this were to happen.

I don't know definitively if they have the votes to throw him out, but things will be clearer by next month hopefully.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:01 PM
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21. With a Democratic Congress things may be easier
to impeach etc.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:22 PM
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22. K&R Tony, Tony, Tony...
What will he do? He's obviously keen on not being humiliated (or is that his secret goal here) but he's been a naughty PM and a worse subject of the Realm. After all, buying all that bad will just to send 8,000 troops to Iraq.

Here is the real happy ending: Blair is tossed; he signs up with Carlyle; the British government cancels all Carlyle contracts due to potential conflict of interest; Carlyle fires Blair. It's a hostile fantasy but who knows.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:11 PM
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32. Tony Blair to go to work for The Carlyle Group when his term ends
If Blair were merely going to work for a big investment firm, that would be bad enough. But the Carlyle Group is the worst of the worst: a notoriously corrupt outfit that does a huge business helping rich Arabs further their goals of economic jihad by buying control of strategic sectors of Western economies.

The Carlyle Group, A range of former US leaders either work for the company or invest in it including Frank Carlucci, President Ronald Reagan's former Defense Secretary. Former US President George Bush Senior was also involved with the huge corporation.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1050
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:14 PM
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23. I was wondering when this was going to
happen, what the hell took them so damn long? I'm so bitterly disappointed in Blair, he was such a good, progressive, effective labor party leader and was a good PM for the first few years. I've NEVER been able to figure out why he's so supportive of Dim Son, it would seem to me that Bush is the antithesis of what he believes in and he HAS to know what a lying idiot he's attached himself to. He's too damn smart not to know that and not to know that his fellow citizens do not like or approve of Bush or his policies, and consequently would not be happy about Blair's steadfast, unwavering support of both. Perhaps he's being blackmailed?
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:17 PM
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24. Just get rid of him already.
Tony is nothing more than an ass kisser. It doesn't matter if it's Slick Willy or The Chimp. UK needs someone who looks out for British interests, not play lapdog to the US.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:28 PM
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25. k&r
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:11 PM
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26. "Blair planned Iraq war from start."
Blair planned Iraq war from start
Michael Smith

INSIDE Downing Street

Tony Blair had gathered some of his senior ministers and advisers for a pivotal meeting in the build-up to the Iraq war. It was 9am on July 23, 2002, eight months before the invasion began and long before the public was told war was inevitable.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1592724,00.html

Why was Blair behind the Invasion of Iraq?

I imagine there were a number of reasons.

Anyone care to guess about some of those?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:04 PM
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27. Winston Churchill Quote -
The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.

~~Winston Churchill
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:24 PM
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28. It's unlikely to happen anytime soon unfortunately
It would be great if he went now. Unfortunately the neo-liberal Blairite wing of the Parliamentary party is more in number than the social democratic wing.

A vote of no confidence is also unlikely to happen in Parliament. The Conservatives don't want to bring the government down because they have no policies of their own, and they know that the longer Blair stays the more damage he does to the Labour Party. If left-wing Labour MPs combined with Lib Dems and nationalists, they'd still be heavily outnumbered by the Blair-Cameron neo-liberal consensus.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:40 PM
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29. the timing couldn't be better....
Should Tony 'Lap Dog' Blair be tossed out on his ear prior to the mid-term elections here in the US, it just might cause a whole bunch of semi-intelligent voters to come to the conclusion that 'Bush's Folly' has no support whatsoever outside the lunatic Republican fringe.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:03 PM
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30. This is the way government should work, none of this dictator Bushit
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:07 PM
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31. First the poodle, then the owner. n/t
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mkb Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 04:36 AM
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37. Patience Is Often Rewarded
     This is another small sign of hope for those who are
trying to participate in a world of benevolence and goodwill.
     I know the difficulties that others have experienced in
life, and I can say truthfully that I have many difficulties
myself.  The point is that if you believe in a world that is
hopeful and happy for as many people as possible, then you
have to realize the effort and struggle that goes into
creating such a world.
     I and many others would like things to go well for as
much of life as possible.  But working for that goal requires
understanding of the forces in life that exist.  There is no
simple or easy solution to the problems we face, other than to
do our best, and hope for the best.
     I'm not advocating that people should try to suffer and
always sacrifice, but that many people who are hoping and
striving for a good and benevolent world now and in the future
depend on those who are willing to do their part, even if it
is hard sometimes.
     Ultimately, we seek a win-win situation where the best
for everything is promoted.  There just are no guarantees for
anyone given the level of understanding that exists.  
     If you struggle for a better world, people will greatly
appreciate your efforts, even if you don't know them in
person.  I have many difficulties, and I still believe in
those who may benefit and pass on those benefits of what I do
to make things better.  The hard part is maintaining your
steadfastness when things are difficult.
     I'm advocating learning over trivia because many examples
exist of people who gave their lives for others and the
future.  So it's fine to hope that things work out in the
short term, but dedication to doing good brings fulfillment
only from the appreciation of universal benevolence.  In this
idea there is unfortunately, no perfect or guaranteed
solution.  Some of us have it worse than others, and even
though we should not seek difficulty, it can often accompany
the right course of action.  I hope you will commit yourself
to working for the greater good of life, and hopefully your
life will go well too.
     The struggle to make things better is one of the head as
much as it is of the heart.  There is much to learn and
consider as you make your way in life.  The news we are seeing
is hopeful, but there is many problems to overcome and work to
do.  We ask that people join the side of hope and progress,
even if you don't completely understand everything or know
people that you are certain are allies.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 12:46 PM
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39. I'm glad to hear this.
Even if the challenge fails, this is a good story to have floating around at this time. It helps to undermine the idea that terrorism makes governmental accountability illegitimate. Now lets just hope it doesn't get buried by the "liberal" press.
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