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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:45 PM
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FEMA trucked ice 1500 miles then spent $274,000 to store it.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2005/12/29/fema_spent_nearly_274000_to_store_relief_ice_in_portland/

FEMA spent nearly $274,000 to store relief ice in Portland

December 29, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine --The Federal Emergency Management Agency spent nearly $274,000 to store thousands of bags of ice in Portland that were initially bought for hurricane relief efforts more than 1,500 miles away.

In a letter to U.S. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, a FEMA official said the agency stored 250 truckloads of ice at Americold storage facility in Portland after it was determined that the agency's supply of ice exceeded the demand following Hurricane Katrina.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:47 PM
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1. I think it would have been cheaper
to just let it melt....

:puke:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:49 PM
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2. The people could have used a cool drink.
and there was a shortage of potable water.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:59 PM
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10. Right, yet the ice never made it to the people who needed it
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 07:01 PM by meganmonkey
So it was stored in Maine at a ridiculous cost to taxpayers. It's despicable.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:50 PM
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3. When all is said and done....
It might be easier and cheaper to build and deliver a portable ice plant next time. I'm just saying....
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:51 PM
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4. but you need to feed it clean water
of which there was a shortage.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:54 PM
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6. the ability to scrub water is avaliable
If the military can do it, FEMA can...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:59 PM
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11. and i'd bet the reverse osmosis plants were in storage
but nobody thought to get them out and shipped.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:17 PM
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16. The reverse osmosis plant was stored right behind the armor for the...
humvees, and right next to the personal body armor that didn't get shipped to Iraq. :shrug:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:51 PM
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5. I'd check for cronyism on this one...
See if Bush has pals in the cold-storage business...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:55 PM
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8. It's just a short ride to Kennebunkport
I was just there yesterday, so it's fresh in my memory.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:14 PM
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14. it's a possibility
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:55 PM
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7. They used 250 trucks, not one, so the headline should really be
"FEMA trucked ice 375,000 miles." I bet the total cost of this fiasco is like several dollars a cube.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:57 PM
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9. This is only the storage fees - the transport is much higher
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 06:57 PM by MaineDem
The drivers said they were getting paid $2.50 a mile while driving, and $800 to $1,000 a day while waiting at a location to be loaded.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:03 PM
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12. So the hauling and storage is up over a million. Anyone know
what a truckload of ice costs wholesale?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:10 PM
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13. The ice itself does not cost much
but freezer trucks and cold storage are VERY expensive...This whole thing is absurd... :(
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:17 PM
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15. nice work, if you can find it
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:23 PM
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17. Usually if you see the word "ice" and the figure $274,000 together...
the "ice" in question is diamonds. Leave it to FEMA to piss away all that dough that should have been used to help our citizens in their hour of need.

THOUSANDS of said citizens are STILL living in TENTS, FOUR MONTHS later. :grr: :banghead: :nuke:
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:09 PM
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18. Brownie testified before Congress
that he didn't think the government should be in the business of supplying ice for the people of New Orleans to cool "their beer and their pop."
I thought that was the most outragious statement I had heard anyone make. He acted like it was a big freaking party down there. I just wish someone in Congress would have picked up on that. I wanted to hear that repeated loud and often in the news. It shows just how freaking incompentent he was.

I think I've posted this a few times already because anytime I hear about the ice trucks, I get livid.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:22 AM
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19. As soon as i heard they were trucking it to Maine I thought - how can
that be cost effective to keep ice? Doesn't ice take a few days to make and truck. Same time as trucking it from Portland or Maine or whereever it was.

i understand that cold weather makes for cheaper freezing costs - but really.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:55 AM
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20. Every move that ** and FEMA made in the days following Katrina
was designed to do two things:

A) Make money for Bush's wonderful pro-death Christian friends

B) Slap poor people and Democrats in the face ( New Orleans overwhelmingly supported Kerry)

This was not about incompetence. This was about greed, arrogance and the most supreme cruelty ever seen in an American administration.

I do not know how these people sleep at night.
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