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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:00 PM
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George Allen, suck-a macaca
you ignorant redneck cracker M.F.

Virginia is for lovers. Right.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:02 PM
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1. OK, I guess I' either stupid or shelter, but what does macaca mean?
I swear, I'm 62 and NEVER heard the word????
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:03 PM
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3. French racial slur, normally aimed at north africans.
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 04:07 PM by Mass
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009422.php

Ahhh, George Allen's America. Where the borders are secure and dark-complected Americans are derided as monkeys.

What did Allen mean? We now know that not only is 'macaque' a French language slur used to describe North Africans but Allen has a dizzyingly direct way of being familiar with the word. His mother is French Tunisian. Given that it would be amongst the French colonial population in North Africa that the word would have the greatest currency (even if only by familiarity rather than use), it seems close to impossible to believe that Allen didn't become familiar with the word growing up.

Last night a friend asked me if it's really believeable that Allen teed off on Sidarth with a racial epithet while he knew he was being videotaped. (My understanding at least is that it was Sidarth himself, the Indian-American Webb campaign volunteer, who was videotaping him as this happened.) I had a couple thoughts along these lines. No, I don't think Allen would have done it intentionally, at least not in the narrow sense. He may be a closet racist (and there's actually a pretty good case to be made (sub.req.) that he is, quite independent of this incident) but I don't think he's intentionally self-destructive.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:05 PM
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4. A Macaca is a type of monkey -- also used as a racial slur...
for Indians/Pakistani/Bangladesh/ etc.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:20 PM
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12. Where do they use it? I ask because
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 05:23 PM by indie_voter
I'm of Indian heritage (my parents immigrated in the late 50s, before civil rights, when there were color quotas, etc..).

I've heard some stuff (rarely), but never that.


ETA: The slur was amazing enough, but I was struck by how this jerk welcomed this poor kid to America. Uhhh, the kid is an American. Perhaps he meant to welcome him to KKK's vision of America.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:08 AM
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14. Apparently, mostly used by white French in the old French colonies...
Algeria, Tunisia, and places like that.

Seems strange that Allen would use it, then, until you learn that his mother, Henrietta Lumbroso, is of French-Tunisian decent.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:00 AM
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16. Thanks!
You're right, it makes sense he would use that word.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:03 PM
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2. virginia is for cousins
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:14 PM
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9. Now, now...Virginie is turnin'
blue!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:11 PM
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5. George Allen knew what it meant. That's why he used it.
Denying it now makes him look worse... like a coward.

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:11 PM
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6. EXACTLY
He knew what he meant and WE know it too..FukkKin racist Pig!
And for the record I DO wear a Mohawk haircut,(personal reasons/comfort reaonns)have been for over 20 years..and it is NOT the kind of Haircut
Sidarth is wearing _at all_.

All I can say is what a fucking racist asshole. Redskins football team owner,An ugly Fuck,with a team named after the brutal scalping White people did to Native Americans,Ripping off their scalps hence RED SKIN, to prove how many people they murdered so they could get government payment offered for the genocide.Counting Coup the white way for$$ Has ANYTHING fucking changed..hardly..same old crusty cabal of pigs are hoarding the wealth,and spreading the hate,Today we got a glimpse of what they really are....AAaargh!

Makes me sick!!

My hawk..
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:12 PM
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7. Virginia may be for lovers.
But Pennsylvania has intercourse.

http://www.800padutch.com/intercs.shtml

:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:13 PM
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8. Hey, it's sounds like you
got felix's Number!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:15 PM
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10. You know what? It's real fucking easy to be a liberal in a blue state.
Some of us here talk the talk and walk the walk.

Take the Virginia bashing elsewhere.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:18 PM
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11. You got that right!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:32 PM
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13. Apparently it's for 'Hokies' too.
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 05:33 PM by Swamp Rat


edit: the letter 'n' is missing.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:20 AM
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15. The real George Allen
is revealed here. The video shows a cocky redneck who is very comfortable among like minded good old boy types. His choice of words, tone of voice, and dismissive hand gestures are all the proof I need that he is still a racist.
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