Osama bin Laden = Emmanuel Goldstein

[KyuzoGator]

The sooner you realize it, the better you'll understand what's going on.

Excuse me, it's time for my two minutes hate.

[bryant69]

1. I presume you mean

The sooner we share in your delusion, the more our understandings will line up with yours?

Probably true.

Bryant
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[KyuzoGator]

2. I guess you've never read 1984.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[TallahasseeGrannie]

4. Which character was he

I forget

[KyuzoGator]

7. He was the "enemy" and nobody even knew if he really existed.

nt

[bryant69]

8. I have read 1984

And I know exactly what you mean to say by that.

And I don't believe your interpretation of the situation lines up with reality.

Incidentally I think it's perfectly possible for one to distrust and oppose Bush and his encroachment on our civil liberties while also being concerned about the potential for terrorist acts in the United States.

Bryant

[KyuzoGator]

9. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

I also have grave concerns about terrorism. But I'm a lot more concerned with treating the disease instead of the symptoms.

[400Years]

13. Fact is he is playing the exact role of Goldstein

I've been saying this for a couple of years now.

Whether you like it or not he is used as the scary shadowy character who keeps the bedwetters scared and willing to give up their freedom.

[bryant69]

16. Bedwetters?

Nice.

Anyway there is a difference between saying that President Bush is using Osama Bin Ladin to erode away our freedoms (which I would agree with) and saying he is fictional or a CIA Mole or no threat at all (which I wouldn't agree with).

[KyuzoGator]

17. It is never made clear in 1984 whether Goldstein is fictional.

Although I can say that he sure picks opportune moments to pop up out of his cave.

[shance]

19. Can you prove he's alive and was responsible for 9-11? Or do you

choose to selectively trust this Administration.

You seem to be assuming that they were honest to you about Osama Bin Laden but as we know they have lied continuously on every other issue.

[bryant69]

21. I don't need to trust this administration to believe in UBL

Plenty of Democrats have referenced his existance and his threat as well.

I don't think there's much virtue in assuming that because the administration says something it must be false any more than I would think there was virtue in assuming that because the administration says something it must be true.

[Pastiche423]

23. Do you have proof that OBL

wasthe perp for 9/11? If you do, please post it here.

I'm still waiting on Powell to produce the White Paper he promised shorty after September 11, 2001.

[bryant69]

24. Hmmmm. Nope, I'm afraid I have no special

information that proves that OBL was the perp. I guess I'm forced to conclude that Karl Rove must be the Perp.

Bryant

[mopaul]

11. he was scary looking and had a big nose, a shadowy evil character

sort of like the joker or the penguin.

[Servotron]

22. Speaking of the Joker and the Penguin....

[tinrobot]

3. Exactly

He's become nothing more than a boogeyman.

[KyuzoGator]

6. Strange how the boogeyman makes more sense than our "leaders"...

It's almost as if someone's deliberately filling his mouth with our talking points. What a spectacular coincidence!

[devilgrrl]

5. Al Qaeda = KAOS/Spector

eom

[Reader Rabbit]

10. Thank you!

I've been saying this for several years now, but it certainly bears repeating whenever possible. Every time I reread 1984, I get more spooked. Should we start referring to England as Airstrip One yet?

[The Witch]

12. you traitor

I will send my 7-year-old child to report you to the ministry of love. :sarcasm:

:-)

[C_U_L8R]

14. A Phantom Enemy Who Never Dies

The perfect opiate for a nation of freeps and fundies
who only understand comic books.

What a bunch a sheep!

[Sven77]

15. big scandals, war on iran

bin laden pops up to threaten the population once again, at a most convenient time for the bush administration. he was trained by the cia and funded by the US government. they have released the same videos over and over. some are fakes like the fat bin laden video. the boogey man will never be caught.

[leftofthedial]

18. gee, ya think?

Who is Winston Smith? Each of us?

[Fozzledick]

20. Ignorance is strength

War is peace.

Slavery is freedom.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[shance]

25. Yes, OBL can "talk" but we can't see him. Why?

Because he's probably not alive and it is probably another lie.

[Rocknrule]

26. Actually I think the Clenis is more of an Emmanuel Goldstein

[KyuzoGator]

27. A very strong argument could be made there, too. nt