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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:31 AM
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Slick Willie Morphs into Slick Hilly-As Carnival of Death in Iraq Goes On
Op-Ed Columnist
The Iraq War Enablers
Save By BOB HERBERT
Published: August 7, 2006

So there was Hillary Rodham Clinton grandstanding for the television cameras last week, giving Donald Rumsfeld a carefully scripted chewing out for his role in the Bush administration’s lunatic war in Iraq.

Casual viewers could have been forgiven for not realizing that Senator Clinton has long been a supporter of this war, and that even now, with the number of pointless American deaths moving toward 2,600, her primary goal apparently is not to find an end game, but to figure out the most expedient political position to adopt — the one that will do the least damage to her presidential ambitions.

Mrs. Clinton is trying to have it both ways. A couple of months ago, she told a gathering in Washington: “I do not think it is a smart strategy either for the president to continue with his open-ended commitment, which I think does not put enough pressure on the new Iraqi government.” She then added, “Nor do I think it is smart strategy to set a date certain.”

Slick Willie has morphed into Slick Hilly, as the carnival of death in Iraq goes on.

more at:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006/08/07/opinion/07herbert.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fBob%20Herbert

or link at:
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/08/bob-herbert-iraq-war-enablers.html
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:11 AM
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1. She saw what happened to Joemomentum
and is running scared.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:17 AM
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2. continued:
(snip)

Mrs. Clinton is just one of the many supporters of the war who should have known better from the beginning, and who are now (with the wheels falling off the Iraqi cart and public support for the war plummeting) engaged in the tricky ritual of rationalization.

(snip)

This was a war that never should have happened. There was a legitimate war for the United States to fight in Afghanistan, but that was not enough for the administration. The Bush gang wanted a war with Iraq, and less-than-courageous politicians like Mrs. Clinton and many others lined up as enablers to help make that war happen.

(snip)

Mrs. Clinton, other Democrats and whatever sensible Republicans may still be out there should be getting together to work out a plan for an orderly withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. This was not a war we were ever going to win. It’s time we brought our involvement to an end.

(snip)

We went into Iraq with bombs falling and guns blazing, insisting all the while that we were bringing the Iraqis the gifts of freedom and democracy. Instead, we gave them terror, chaos and civil war — in other words, a whole new generation of misery and mass death.

(snip)

http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/08/bob-herbert-iraq-war-enablers.html
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:03 AM
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3. "her primary goal apparently is not to find an end game, but . . .
to figure out the most expedient political position to adopt" . . .

um. . . Hillary, dear . . . brief news flash for your edification and enlightenment . . . (no charge) . . .

FACT #1: this country will NEVER elect you president . . .

FACT #2: it is HIGHLY unlikely that the Democratic Party will even select you as its nominee in 2008 . . .

just trying to be helpful . . .

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:46 AM
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6. Hillary certainly needs
to face THOSE facts for everyone's sake including her own.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:04 AM
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4. I think even the MSM is figuring out that she aint gonna be the nominee.
Flag Burning and Smutty Video Games aint gonna cut it, this time.

This time around, we need someone with a fucking CLUE.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:33 AM
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5. Now if someone will just give the DLC and the
Carville-Begala types a clues as well, maybe we can get on with finding a true philosophical leader for the party and not just a political critter.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:50 AM
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7. If she gets the Dem nomination in '08 the GOP won't have to steal it.
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 03:51 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:09 AM
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8. She is figuring out that we are on to her!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:49 AM
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9. I couldn't have said it better...well I could have but I didn't ;) A+

I love Bob Herbert...he is the maximum TruthTeller...and he writes well.

What a guy and what a riot, my goodness.

TISANI FOR SENATE!!! Why not the best?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:48 AM
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10. I just knew Bob Herbert
Would get around to Hillary...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:16 PM
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13. I hope she's a minor franchise for Bob. He's got her number:) n/t
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:55 AM
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11. I feel so bad that Hillary didn't get it right from the start
Now she has no excuse anymore and still flails.
The slickness is turning into stupidity.

Watch for those mysterious centrists Hillary.
:silly:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:04 AM
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12. But Our Flags Are Safe.
Sponsoring anti-flag-burning legislation... running like a terrified puppy when Feingold tries to censure Bush... supporting a war based on cooked information... recipient of more contributions fro, the Rich than any other candidate... Director of Wal-Mart when they pioneered their subsistence wage policies... disliker of gay marriae... why doesn't she just move her ever-triangulatin' ass over to the Republican party?

If it looks like a Republican and it acts like a Republican... I'm sure that there's a power vacuum at the Rethugs that she could fill. And perhaps even a travel office or two that she could character-assassinate.
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