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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:38 PM
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Scott Ritter on TV. FSTV on the Dish network channel 9415.
Talked about the crappy WMD Iraq had. Said everything they had were not WMD. The gov't is making everything a WMD. And they are doing the same thing now on Iran - not that anyone here believes the gov't anymore.
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Foolkiller Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:14 PM
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1. Shoot the messenger
As much as Scott Ritter is right, I'm glad we don't see this guy around too much. His pedophilia problem is a disturbing distraction from his arguments.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:47 PM
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2. huh?
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Foolkiller Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:53 PM
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3. It was all over the news a couple of years back
This is the first story that popped up on Google:

An attorney for Scott Ritter confirmed that the outspoken former U.N. weapons inspector, who says President Bush should be impeached for his Iraq policy, was arrested a year and a half ago.

Scott Ritter mug shot (courtesy WNYT-TV)


Norah Murphy said Ritter was arrested in the upstate New York town of Colonie in June 2001, but she would not respond to allegations that he was charged with soliciting an underage girl on the Internet. Ritter lives in the Albany, N.Y., suburb of Delmar.

The Schenectady Daily Gazette and New York Daily News report Ritter allegedly had an online sexual discussion with someone he thought was an underage girl. The "girl," however, turned out to be an undercover police investigator, according to the Daily News, whose sources spoke on condition of anonymity.

WTEN-TV, the ABC affiliate in Albany, is reporting that Ritter contacted the "teen-age girl" twice within a three-month period in 2001, and that he underwent court-ordered sex-offender counseling from a psychologist in New York's capital.

Sources tell the Albany Times-Union that Ritter actually had two run-ins with police. The first occurred in April 2001, as the former Marine reportedly drove to a Colonie business to meet what he thought was a 14-year-old girl. He was reportedly questioned by officers, and released without a charge.

Two months later, the source told the paper, Ritter was caught in the same kind of online sex sting after he tried to lure a 16-year-old girl to an area Burger King restaurant.

Colonie police Deputy Chief Steven Heider told WorldNetDaily that he cannot confirm the allegations, explaining that if they were true, the details would have been sealed by a court order.

"A sealing order is exactly what it says it is," he said. "We're not allowed to talk about anything under sealed court order, and I'm not saying that one exists."

However, WND has learned that NBC television affiliate WNYT in Albany has video of a mug shot of Ritter after the arrest.

"If it's not him, it's either his clone or a twin," the station's news director, Paul Conti, told WND.

WorldNetDaily reported earlier that WNYT said it had footage of the arrest, but Conti clarified that the station has video of the scene, shot after the arrest.

Scott Ritter


The news director said the 16-year-old girl had been lured by Ritter to meet him at the Burger King in Menands, N.Y., in order "to have her watch him have sex with himself."

"Anyone who went to the Burger King that day could confirm the details of that event and report that a sting operation was underway that involved a decoy officer posing as a 16-year-old girl," Conti said.

Callers to today's Rush Limbaugh radio program brought up the issue of Ritter's arrest, to which the conservative talk host responded:

"If I were Scott Ritter, I would just come up with a 'Hey, I was just doing research here.' ... The Pete Townshend reply."

"You know we've all wondered," added Limbaugh, "why it is that Scott Ritter has done a 180 on what he originally saw as a weapons inspector and then the last couple years, it's like 'Nah, the Iraqis don't even have the capability to make a thumbtack, much less a chemical weapon.'"

Still, Limbaugh downplayed the incident.

"I'm surprised that this bothers anybody," he said. "I mean look at these reality TV shows out there, everything going on, 'Bachelorette,' 'Joe Millionaire' ... we had oral sex in the Oval Office ... I'm just surprised the selective application of morality, that we seem to have certain things bother us and other things don't."

As WorldNetDaily reported Saturday, Ritter is calling for the ouster of President Bush for what he feels are unnecessary and murderous actions in the conflict with Iraq.

"I would be in favor of the impeachment of President Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors," the 41-year old told WND. "Murder is a high crime and misdemeanor, and I can't think of any better definition than murder when he talks about American service members and putting them in a war which is not only illegal but is based on a foundation of lies."

"When you go to war you open up a Pandora's box, the results of which cannot be predicted," he said via telephone as he drove from his upstate New York home to appear on Fox News. "Therefore, there better be a darned good reason to go to war. It's got to be worth the sacrifice that you're asking others to make."

Ritter's views against the conflict with Iraq could be in jeopardy depending on the amount of national media attention his arrest receives, said Robert Thompson, professor of media and popular culture at Syracuse University.

"When you're a talking head, your whole reason for being has got to be the image of anything you represent," Thompson told the Times-Union. "If the story starts getting to be a big issue, there will be talking heads making their careers on the end of this talking head."
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:06 PM
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4. "World Net Daily"? That's your source?
The first story on Google? Really? Not the hundreds of stories about how Major Ritter was dead on about the WMD's and yet never heeded, but ridiculed, and even possibly set up? Nice try.
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Foolkiller Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:16 PM
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5. Ummm . . .
It was really all over the news. But when you search for "Ritter" and "underage girl", you get a lot of different stories. The article above was just the first one that popped up.

Is CNN a better source?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/22/ritter.arrest/

It happened. He was arrested. I think he was charged for it. Let's find a different messenger than a guy who one step above Gary Glitter and not likely to be outed on "Dateline."
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:33 PM
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7. Lets wonder what your motive is.
:eyes: New shit to me but I also know how well this government smears anybody that shows them up for what they are. And "you think" he was charged??!!?? You don't know??
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Foolkiller Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:37 PM
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8. He was arrested in June 2001
Before 9/11, before Iraq, and before any tinfoil hats were created.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:57 PM
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15. It was a sting operation that resulted in dismissal of the case.
Although all records are sealed, somehow, this "news" was was dumped into the media a couple years later.

Ritter brought a bit of factual truth and sanity into the discussion by appearing on cable news, and through his writings and speeches. He was obstructing the PNAC plans for war. This "news" was part of the propaganda blitzkrieg of lies about Iraq that duped the most ignorant and cowardly among us into believing the strangest things, wetting themselves in fear, and praying that Chimpy would go out and kill all the monster things.

It is still a favorite story for some of them, since facing reality way too scary.

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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:48 PM
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11. Foolkiller... don't do it. Things will get better! OMG... don't do it!
Your reliance on the country's judicial system is amazing. How many accused, convicted and rotting in prison are in fact innocent?

The incentive for police is to close a case. There is ample scope for the corrupt to lay a false trail pointing to someone else.

I know enough about the Ritter case to be highly suspicious of his accusers.

So step away from that ledge and don't renew your membership of the Swiftboat Veterens for Truth.

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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:39 PM
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10. ...
:popcorn:
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:00 PM
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14. Bullshit ......
here's a link or two for you to start with, one an old DU thread and another on the articles relating to the Smearing of Scott Ritter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=30044&forum=DCForumID60

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=The+Smearing+of+Scott+Ritter+&fr=FP-tab-web-t400&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8

welcome to DU and enjoy your stay :hi: Peace.
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AusGail Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:28 PM
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6. It seems that if you speak up against the legitimacy of WMD's
something bad happens to your reputation. Let us not forget Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.

The administration obviously achieved its objective to quieten Scott Ritter. Was he charged? Was he found guilty in a court of law? OR Was he set up?
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Foolkiller Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:38 PM
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9. Again
He was arrested in 2001 for pursuing an underage girl. Does the Bush Administration have a time machine? If so, they're not using it very well.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:50 PM
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12. Again I say Foolkiller... don't do it! n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 09:51 PM by bananarepublican
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:56 PM
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13. self delete ...... ment for post #1 in this thread ... sorry
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 09:58 PM by doublethink
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:39 PM
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16. To those who want to discredit Ritter.
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 11:42 PM by mmonk
The Ritter case was dismissed by the judge. That agreement was made by all concerned, even the town police. The case was sealed in order to protect people from unsustained allegations. The republican smear machine got in on it for one reason and one reason only. To discredit a man who was telling the truth about Iraq and WMD's. If you believe them, you've been duped by them.
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