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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 11:50 AM Original message |
Big police stand-off in Tampa right now (12:30pm eastern) |
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Literate Tar Heel (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. the heat wave doesn't help either |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's just miserable out. Hope this turns out okay for all involved. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. It's absolutely beautiful in Sacramento. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Crime is a character issue. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. That statement seems grossly out of touch to me. Do you feel |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yes, they bear no responsibility for their conduct! |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. No, people are not born morally bad. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I feel criminality is largely systemic. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Crime is a choice. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Here is something for you to consider if you will: |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. No I don't. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
82. Really? Look at this politician... |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Crime and economics are intimately linked. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. However... |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Crime during the Depression |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
83. Compare to other countries! |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. THAT makes sense. Thank you. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. i blame politicos for locking up potheads while releasing dangerous |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. "it's wrong to break the laws in this country" |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. What about violating the Constitution? Repeatedly? |
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patdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. but, but, but bush said "Not ALL poor people are murderers" he REALLY |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. He also said RIch people don't pay taxes. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. They see politicians thumb their noses at the laws of the land and |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. That's weak thinking. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Your personal attack( "That's weak thinking")is noted! |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. It's not 'sneak' in the least. |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. So if you had a child that was starving... |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Gee. Did You Think Of That All By Yourself? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Another 'winner' in the Character Sperm Lottery. |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. It seems to me.... |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That doesn't mean I have to be--or you have to be. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I hope you remember your "choices" someday when you |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. I have been hungry and cornered. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Ya really lost me at Andrea Yates. I s'pose she's not as crazy as a |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. No, I think she's crazy--I do! |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. No, but we can blame the political climate. |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. not only that... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Crime was way up under Bush I |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. BUt unemployment is nonexistant, remember? LMAO |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
96. Yeah, cuz all those people who aren't working don't count |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I can't imagine the fool I'd look... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. You don't think people can unconsciously internalize |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. No, actually... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Not an excuse, a reason. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. An excuse by any other name... |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. "Our lack of character." |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. If you wish to blame a lack of character on Bush... |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. YOU are the only one talking about "lack of character." |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. Ah yes--everything is relative. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. You're right. And Republicans are the BEST at relativism. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. If you wish to be safe.. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. A-ha! The Fear Factor! BE VERY AFRAID!!! |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. You are already looking the fool. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
57. You get less prison time for violent robbery than drugdealing. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Are you oversimplifying in your Rush to post ... |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
75. I'm still attempting to get around |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Yes, the other day, I was feeling so oppressed by the Bush admin; |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Don't be so dense. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Pretty Small Sample Size There Patcox |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
92. There is no inconsistency. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. See MLK |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. A person can be jailed for the right reasons and jailed for the ... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I just LOVE moral standards. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Actually... |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. "So many criminals are not planning for the future " |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
87. So, no one is above the law right? |
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OilemFirchen (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. Which is it? |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
95. Gee, I wanted to reply to your insightful answer but there's this big |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Ahh the old personal responsibilty meme... |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. I know, we adults are ruining your good time! |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Don't move. Stay right where you are. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
97. Indeed he did |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. You set the trap. |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Playing 'gotcha' again? |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. What again are you talking about? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. 99.999% of politicians "lack decent morals". can we blame them for THAT? |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. We can always... |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. "Amoral" is still useful. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
60. Not true. Divorce and adultery rates spiked after Clinton's affair.... |
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MOUSETHIN (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. In all my work with offenders... |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. Crime is not always about increasing one's standard of living |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
94. no one here is excusing every crime-- |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. That's way too oversimplified a statement... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Morals are subjective. Laws are not. |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. Pic |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. At a Sweet Tomatoes restaurant?? |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. I've been to that same restaurant 6-7 times. |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. I have eaten at the one restaurant 50-100 times |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I was an addict in California - Sweet Tomatoes and Fresh Choice |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Thanks for the new restaurant to try |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You're welcome, bro. I envy you. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Have they turned into dicks the last dozen years? |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. My understanding is that the suspect requested that helicopters back off |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Of course they don't want the news to broadcast someone being shot |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Here's a link. I lived near that intersection for several years |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. Police have suspect out of the car and on the ground. (2:37pm) |
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