"Supporters of Hezbollah".... Just who are they?

[leftchick]

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I met some of these "supporters of Hezbollah" yesterday in the hospitals of Sidon.

I met five-year-old Hussein Jawad as his stiff little body lay prone on a hospital bed, one of his tiny legs in a cast. His eight-year-old sister Zayneb, also a "supporter of Hezbollah," lay next to him in the same bed. See, there were so many Hezbollah supporters in the southern hospitals that the small ones had to share beds.

They, along with their mother Yusah in a nearby bed, covered in the kind of shrapnel wounds received from cluster bombs, had stayed in their tiny village near the border during the first three days of the bombing because they were too scared to leave. The bombing got so close; they took their chances and managed to move to another village, where they stayed for another eight days.

They ran out of food, so Yusah and the two little "supporters of Hezbollah," compelled by fear and hunger, along with another car containing Yusah's two sisters, followed an ambulance to Kafra village. When they arrived there, the car carrying the two sisters was bombed by an American-made F-16.

Then there was Khuder Gazali, an ambulance driver, whose left arm was blown off by a rocket fired by an American-made Apache war helicopter while he was rescuing civilians whose home had been bombed. The ambulance then sent to rescue the rescuer was bombed, everyone in it killed. Miraculously, the third ambulance was able to retrieve him, only because the Apache had left.

16-year-old Ibrahim Al-Hama was surely supporting Hezbollah as he played in a river with a dozen of his friends before they were bombed by a warplane. He lay in the hospital bed, his lacerated chest oozing blood, his left ankle shattered and held together by gauze and medical tape. Two of his friends are dead, along with a woman who was near the bomb's impact zone. Perhaps she too was plotting a rocket attack against Israel?

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/073106A.shtml



Hussein and Zayneb Jawad, 5 and 8 years, injured by bomb while fleeing village.

[snappyturtle]

1. K&R This madness must stop! nt

[atreides1]

2. But you don't understand

Israel has the right to defend itself, and if that defense means taking out future Hezbollah suppoters, then as the Rabbinical Council has said, there are no innocents in time of war.

In case some don't get it, this is sarcasm.

[mom cat]

35. It is tragic that some people actually advance those ideas with a straight

face and believe that there are no innocents on the other side of wars that they initiate.
This is a sick "morality" no matter who is espousing it.

[bigtree]

3. .

[Jim__]

4. And there are more and more "supporters of Hezbollah" everyday.

For quite understandable reasons.

[Joe Fields]

5. Your story is about as one sided as could possibly be.

And to call five year olds "supporters of Hezbollah?" You can't be serious, can you? Do you think they have any idea of what's going on?

I could produce photograph after photograph depicting maimed and blown up Israelis, men, women and children, but to what purpose, except to show that this is not one sided.

You have no objectivity or credibility here.

[jonnyblitz]

6. Umm..you do realize the OP didn't write the article , right?

or maybe not. :crazy: :eyes:

[Dhalgren]

7. In my opinion she has loads of credibility here. Loads.

Most of the Israeli dead so far have been soldiers (it's a war, get it?); most of the Lebanese dead have been civilians with a large percentage children. War is hell, disproportional war is hell for one side...

[H2O Man]

16. Yep.

She is one of DU's very best. I'm proud to see people of conscience speaking out about the horrors of policies that kill little children. If some people are unhappy about that, they own the problem.

[Joe Fields]

20. You seem to approve of one sided reporting.

I'll give her no pass or credibility, considering she has repeatedly demonstrated her complete bias toward Hezbollah, which are known terrorists.

[H2O Man]

21. Not at all.

I'm all for your providing the other side of this story. She is horrified by the death of an innocent 5 year old. And you?

[Joe Fields]

34. How crass and disingenuous. You wonder if I'm all for it?

Only a moron would wonder about something like that.

[leftchick]

36. oooooo name calling

how mature. :eyes:

I also believe it is against DU rules.

[H2O Man]

45. "all for it"

Your words, of course. I think you were also upset that the OPer only provided one side of the story. Hence, my hope that you would provide the other. Instead, you resort to this.

[INDIA]

8. The Israelis don't parade their dead out for cameras

They actually respect them enough to bury them without holding them high or lining them up for the AP to take pictures. Imagine that!

[EFerrari]

10. Unlike those other, bad people grieving their dead with

their different customs and their different dead.

[The Stranger]

11. Wrong. CNN shows videos rushed from suicide bomber scenes seconds after

they take place. Who do you think is shooting those videos?

[INDIA]

22. You just proved my point.

"...seconds after they take place" That's the only time you will see dead Israelis, before the authorities/paramedics arrive. After that, the dead/injured are taken to hospitals and morgues *gasp* never to be seen by the media again. If afterward the family wants the media at the open casket funeral(which is the one exception I've seen), that's their business.

And BTW, the videos are most likely being shot by tourists with hand held cameras, not the media.

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Tourists with hand held cameras?

Tourists???

:rofl:

[INDIA]

30. Yes, Israel does have tourists.

And most often when a cafe or restaurant gets bombed, they are the first on the scene to record before the carnage can be cleared by authorities. I really don't understand what you're laughing at, care to explain? Nah, you'll probably just dissapear. See ya!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/06/13/israel.tourism/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/10/03/chilling-tourist-video-re_n_8251.html

[Norquist Nemesis]

32. Well, first of all it seemed to me you referring to Lebanon

and that's just silly. Since you say you were talkinga about Israel, it was my error for that interpretation.

As to the rest of what you're arguing, there's just not any point in wasting time about it. You're very clear about taking a side and which side that is. That's fine. I'm just not in the mood to be called nasty names and be smeared as a terrorist supporter.

[jonnyblitz]

12. feeling a bit culturally superior this morning are we?

:puke:

[INDIA]

17. Different customs?

Or a well orchestrated and very effective PR campaign. It was my understanding that Islamic cultures traditionally bury their dead as quickly as possible. I don't recall holding up dead children for the media as being part of Islamic culture. It's very effective though, most people here forget that any Israelis are dying because they don't see pictures of their mutilated bodies all over the news. And what does "culturely" mean? Culturally? Honestly, I don't know, thought I might learn a new word today. :)

[jonnyblitz]

29. aaah, the type of response i expected.

[kiki]

39. Yeah, damn those crazy Ay-rabs...

...showing the world their dead rather than hiding them where we don't have to see.

BTW, if you couldn't tell, the kids in the OP article are wounded, not dead.

[Jim__]

41. What parade of the dead are you talking about?

The children in the picture are injured not dead. I went to the article and didn't see any other pictures. So what are you talking about?

[leftchick]

9. it isn't my story

did you read the Author Dahr Jamail's linked story? I didn't think so. You have no credibilty if you have not even read what he has written here and comment anyway. There are almost 1000 Dead Lebanese who have done nothing to Israel. Nothing.

[H2O Man]

13. Please stop

trying to confuse people with facts and rational thinking. You wrote the story. Admit it.

[leftchick]

18. lol!

Yes sir! I just arrived back from the Middle East yesterday to hit my deadline! ;)

[H2O Man]

19. That's more like it.

It's important that folks be able to project inner demons without you bringing facts into the discussion. Your bringing up things like 5 year olds being killed is unfair. Stop it.

[Snivi Yllom]

15. You have to wonder. Do the Hezbollah leaders thinkall of this was worth it

Pretty twisted and sick is the mentality that decides widespread destruction, billions of dollars in damage, agonizing suffering, and death is worth the price of increasing their own political power.

Hezbollah would like nothing better than a weakened Lebanese government, unable to police the Hezbollah thugs, and to please their masters in Tehran and Damascus.

[mom cat]

37. And Olmert and Bush have no political agenda?

Reality break: The two IDF soldiers were captures in southern Lebanon, not Israel. Is was Israel that nade the incursion into Lebanon, not the other way around.

Also, I think that your statement about Hesbolla should more appropriately be directed to Isreal:

"Pretty twisted and sick is the mentality that decides widespread destruction, billions of dollars in damage, agonizing suffering, and death is worth the price of increasing their own political power."

[Snivi Yllom]

43. do tell, what is Olmert's political agenda?

other than defending Israel?

I can guarantee you Hezbollah's agenda is not to seek peace, in fact the more war they start, the weaker the lebanese government is, the more powerful they are, and the happier their overlords in Tehran are.

More dead Lebanese babies makes Nasrallah giddy.


BTW, the IDF soldiers were kidnapped from Israel in a cross border raid, not in Lebanon. Get your facts straight.

[mom cat]

46. Your statement makes your argument look ridiculous:

"More dead Lebanese babies makes Nasrallah giddy."
How can you expect anyone to take you seriously with mean spirited nonsense like that?

[Joe Fields]

23. It isn't your story, and those aren't your photos, yet you seem

to have a propensity to report this conflict every day as a story with only one side to it.

[leftchick]

27. okay, 50 dead Israelis

almost all of them soldiers. There, you have the other side. Notice a little disparity?

[The Stranger]

14. The No.of DEATHS here IS ONE-SIDED - over 600 Lebanese have been murdered.

So you lose that argument right off the bat.

[leftchick]

24. closer to 1000 innocent civilians DEAD

the official dead count is 828 dead, 3200 wounded and 750,000 displaced.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=+dead+wounded+lebanese&btnG=Search+News

but figure in a few hundred or perhaps thousands more dead and buried in rubble. :(

[GirlinContempt]

28. 08:20:08 EDT Aug 2, 2006

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060802/w080230.html
At least 542 Lebanese have been killed, including 468 civilians and 28 Lebanese soldiers and at least 46 Hezbollah guerrillas. The health minister says the toll could be as high as 750, including those still buried in rubble or missing. Fifty-four Israelis have died - 36 soldiers as well as 18 civilians killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks.

[Minstrel Boy]

38. 67% of Israeli fatalities have been combatants; 15% of Lebanese n/t

[leftchick]

40. that fact

seems to be lost on some people.

[leftchick]

42. I suppose it depends on who is counting

and have the bodies buried in their homes been counted yet?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,,1835529,00.html?=rss#article_continue

Hundreds of Lebanese have been killed by the Israeli offensive, with reports of the total ranging from around 450 to more than 800, including as many as 290 children.

[furman]

31. Most people in Northern Israel either left or are in bomb shelters.

Hence the relatively low death toll in Israel.
Fortunately most of the Hezbollah rockets land in sparsely populated areas as well.

[DemonFighterLives]

26. dubby is extremely happy with this

Israel must continue the War on Terra! Terra Firma.

K & R
:dem:

[malaise]

33. I love your posts n/t

[eissa]

44. My .02 cents

I think Hezbollah's humanitarian work in that region should be a blueprint for not just other organizations, but for countries to follow. Before I'm attacked, let me say that Hezbollah itself sickens me and I can't stand what they've done to Lebanon. BUT.....they are extremely organized, they have provided the ignored poverty-stricken communities of southern Lebanon with housing, medical care, schools, etc. This, my friends, is how you gain support. When was the image of the US at its peak? When we had an active PeaceCorps spreading goodwill and help throughout the world. Until we get back to the basics of helping these communities so hatred/terrorism doesn't fester and boil over, we will forever more be dropping bombs on these countries in the name of "democracy" while groups like Hezbollah reap the rewards.