something a bit different, re: Hezbollah/Lebanon/IDF, etc.

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http://www.exile.ru/2006-July-28/a_hezbollah_upon_all_of_thee.html

Not sure if this site is allowed to post here or if this is a dupe.

I really don't like this writer, he sounds like an ass, but there are some things here that are worth the read on the overall picture - stuff you'd never hear on our 'educational' channels.

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As long as the IDF was beating up on Hamas down in Gaza, it could hide its weakness most of the time. Not all of the time -- pretty sloppy, letting Hamas commandos tunnel right into that base, blast a tank and kidnap poor baby Shalit right while he was thinking up his next capsule review. Still, except for the occasional slip, the IDF was safe in its F-16s and Merkavas, facing Pals with nothing but rifles and old RPGs. It's easy to look tough rolling through refugee camps in the world's most heavily armored tank.

But as you may recall, those tanks got a real different reception when they chased Hezbollah's raiding party back into Lebanon after the Hezzies killed three IDF soldiers and kidnapped another two. The IDF mid-ranking commanders had to act fast because the Gaza command was taking heat for not pursuing Shalit's kidnappers fast enough. So they shouted, "Charge!" and the first Merkava steamed over the border.

Guess how far it got. Ten meters. Ten goddamn meters. Then KABOOM! A Hezbollah mine or shaped charge turned it into a very expensive oven, with four crew killed. Another IDF soldier died trying to rescue them. So within a few minutes the IDF had lost eight men. As far as I know, Hezbollah's losses were zero.

-snip-

But you never see them on TV. You think that's an accident? No, fellas, that's brains is what that is. Nasrullah may look like a fat social studies teacher who needs a shave, but you don't claw your way to the top of a bloody world like that one without brains. The men who run Hezbollah attacked because they finally figured out that they literally cannot lose. The IDF can never expel Hezbollah from South Lebanon, because it's a genuine mass movement, as committed and crazy at the roots as at the top. (As opposed to Arafat's PLO, which they could and did expel from Lebanon because it was topheavy, corrupt and cowardly.) If Israel comes down hard on the Lebanese, another generation learns to hate the Jews down south and dream of bloody revenge. If Israel holds off, then Hezbollah becomes the one victorious Arab/Muslim force in the world, darling of every little nine-year-old Jihadi in Jakarta and Khartoum. If Israel retaliates by blasting every target of value in Lebanon, every TV tower and shopping mall and freeway...well, that's the beauty of the plan: the Shia are the poorest of the poor. They don't own any of that shit anyway. They sit back and laugh watching their neighbors' stuff that they've envied all their lives get blown away -- and it's the Israelis who get the blame.


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ouch. I don't think I should have posted a link to this site. Although I find 'some' of his observations interesting.
MODS delete or do what you will with it.

[Redstone]

1. As much as I detest Russians, this guy's telling the truth.

Redstone

[QuestionAll...]

2. you detest some of my ancestors?

I'm sure you didn't mean that...

[Redstone]

9. Not your ancestors; just the current crop.

Redstone

[Dead_Parrot]

4. Out of interest, why do you detest Russians?

Were you frightened by a fur hat as a small child, or something?

:shrug:

[Rex]

5. Redstone is Grizzly Adams

From what I read, Redstone talks to the animals. I like the Rus, they seem to make good Vodka.

[Dead_Parrot]

7. Well, nothing wrong with that

It's when they start talking back you should be worried.

I've known a few Russians, but none I didn't like: Just another slightly poor people with dreams and a penchant for booze that'll make you toes curl.

And they can out-queue the British, which is saying something. :)

[Redstone]

8. Yes, I have an affinity with the critters. Is that a problem for you?

And the Russians make shit for vodka. Svedka and Finlandia are much better.

Redstone

[Rex]

10. No just thought it was funny.

Fur hat and all.

[Redstone]

12. OK.

Redstone

[Redstone]

6. No, because I fought the sons of bitches in 1972, in a little town called

An Loc. They really stood out from the North Vietnamese.

And if you go to an expensive restaurant in any large city in America or Europe, and you see a group of people abusing the waitstaff, listen to the accents. A dollar will get you ten if they aren't Russians.

Redstone

[Dead_Parrot]

16. Yeah, having people shoot at you can put you off them...

...although I'm not sure that should put you off all of them. I don't think any nationality looks it's best from a firing position.

Never noticed them in resteraunts, but then I live off dial-a-pizza :)

[Rex]

17. Seriously, you live off pizza?

nt

[Dead_Parrot]

21. Certainly not...

...They do a mean lasagne as well.

:D

[Rex]

22. Bummer, guess I'm the only one.

:)

[Dead_Parrot]

23. lol

Well, so long as you alternate between the assorted-dead-animal pizza, the wow-look-it's-got-four-different-cheeses pizza and the who-the-fuck-eats-anchovies pizza, I belive that counts as a varied and balanced diet.

:D

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13. I think a borscht attacked him. nt

[Dead_Parrot]

3. Well...

...one minute the IDF is stomping around Gaza blasting amateurs, when something taps it on the shoulder, and there's Hezbollah, looking like Godzilla in a headscarf.

No idea how good his facts are, but he certainly has a way with words :)

[Redstone]

11. Like I said...

Redstone

[Igel]

14. Eh. Iranian training and advisors count for something. n/t

[breakaleg]

15. It's too soon to know how this thing will play out..

but from a strategic viewpoint, it is interesting.

I've always thought of the IDF as a force to be reckoned with. Mainly because they have the capability of the US but none of the reservations or morality. They don't care who they kill or what the cost to reach their objectives. It will be interesting to see if they've met their match.

[Rex]

18. I see Israel as a reflection of the US.

I think the people of both nations would like peace. There is a great disconnect between The People and the people in charge IMO.

[breakaleg]

19. I agree.

I am totally against Israel's actions in this current conflict. But I realize that the common people probably don't all support their leader the same way many in the US don't support Bush in his ambitions.

And I feel for the common Israeli's who aren't part of the decision process but have to pay the price. Same for the Lebanese.

[QuestionAll...]

20. This is how I see it as well.

we are all being used. Just imagine if we all wised up what could be possible.

[TahitiNut]

25. Over 90% supported Junior's War On Terror post-9/11

... while barely 80% supported Ohmert last week. I expect that 80% to shrink like a scrotum in the icy waters of Lake Superior as the bodies of women and children pile up in Lebanon. The corresponding expansion of support for Hizb'allah and Hamas assures the neocon proofiteers at least another decade of swollen profits from armaments and oil.

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24. kick