Is the Mel Gibson flap a ruse ???

[jaysunb]

Yes, he probably did make the remarks, but, why the hell is this such a huge NATIONAL news story ? And how is it that it's picked up by some obscure web site almost immediately and reported relentlessly within hours of the incident.

Were his comments untrue or overblown? And isn't this the way most people around the world think ? Is this media frenzy designed to reinforce our "Israel right or wrong" policy and/or distract from the atrocities being committed by their government.

I don't know Mel Gibson or his personal opinions on ANYTHING, but I do know that the drunken rants of a movie actor don't deserve the attention it's getting.

What a gift to AIPAC & Likud

Flame away !

on edit, I forgot to add this :tinfoilhat:

[Jara sang]

1. The thought had crossed my mind.

With all this "are you for/against Israel?" talk going on.

[Marie26]

2. It's a Zionist conspiracy

Gotta be. The US media would never focus on a trivial celebrity story like that. I mean, this isn't like when Star Jones went on Larry King or anything. That was an important story.

[beam me up scottie]

16. Ding ding ding!

You have just won an all expenses paid trip for you and the mister to Conspiracy World!

[YOY]

3. Mel Who?

n/t

[pooja]

4. Agreed.... I don't think Mel gibson deserves as much attention

as all he his getting... but new movie coming out and publicity no matter what is publicity

[RagAss]

5. sometimes I think I'm in a coma somewhere dreaming all of this shit up....

[Rex]

6. Took one for Opus Dei

Plan #1348. Passion of the distraction.

[jaysunb]

8. Heh Heh !

uh huh !!

[Rex]

15. Mel is part of the Ancient Order of the Argonauts.

:dunce: Super, secret-squirrel clearance only!

[Eric J in MN]

7. I don't think he got drunk and got arrested as a strange way,,

...to help AIPAC.

[jaysunb]

12. As I said...

"a gift"

[Burried News]

9. Mel scmell ... investigate Qana and the destruction of the UN outpost.

[TwentyFive]

10. Mel Gibson is a bigotted drunk with a screwed up life.

The man has issues with anger and needs to get help. His professional life is finished as he knows it - nobody will take him seriously. Beyond his family and profession, his actions affect nothing.

[bigwillq]

11. And yet another Mel thread

here on the DU. :eyes:

[upi402]

13. he has nice hair though

so I'm just sayin'
:shrug:
not like a decaying corrupt American corporatist government and a cancer metastasizing in the middle class should matter...

[Taxloss]

14. Yes, it IS unusual that a celebrity story should

distract the US media from its usual laser-like focus on world affairs. Very suspicious.

[beam me up scottie]

17. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

Another sneaky distraction, boy they're just so damned clever.

And they almost got away with it.

Luckily, the crafty members of Democratic Underground saw through the ruse and refused to discuss it.

[Jim Sagle]

18. And we know whooooooooo's behind it.

:)

[beam me up scottie]

20. Janet Jackson's Nipple?

[Behind the Aegis]

21. ......

:rofl:

Not Nipple-gate?!? NOOOOO! Say it ain't so! :rofl:

[barb162]

44. Hey Jim

Long time no see.

Gibson is in doo-doo where he should be. Well, at least he's going to rehab but it sure seems he should have been charged with more than he got

[Jim Sagle]

45. Now we know tha he REALLY meant by "Lathal Weapon."

[salvorhardin]

22. I'm sorry, what were you saying?

I was reading along and then I spotted this shiny piece of foil on the kitchen counter.

[barb162]

43. Yeah, Britney SPears isn;t getting any publicity this week

[Solly Mack]

19. Yes, his comments were untrue and IF that is the way most of the people

in the world think - then most of the people in the world are petty little narrow-minded racists.



Mel Gibson - "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world,"

That's a lie and it's a lie that has been told for hundreds of years as a justification to attack Jewish people.

There is a difference between attacking a country's policies and attacking a people based on their ethnicity. Mel attacked a people for their ethnicity, using an age-old racist lie to do it with.

[jaysunb]

25. Sorry Solly

With all due respect for you, I must strongly disagree.

Unfortunately, most of the conflicts that are on the worlds radar have direct links to Israel. Iraq, Afgahnastan, Lebanon, Palastine, as well as looming war w/ Iran are all in one way or another linked to Israel....rightly or wrongly.

[Behind the Aegis]

26. So you agree with Mel?

You do realize he said Jews and not Israelis, yes?!

[jaysunb]

30. Sorry..see post # 29

I meant to reply to you but messed up.
Btw, If he used the term "Jews" it doesn't surprise me. Again, I hear that kind of talk all the time.

[readmoreoften]

36. So because a lot of people are antisemites, it's okay?

Nice to apologize for bigots. A lot of discrimination in the world against Blacks as well. Good reasons for that too?

[jaysunb]

39. Discrimination against Blacks is mostly

an American pasttime.

Let's try to keep this to the subject at hand and start another thread about other things.

[readmoreoften]

41. Not true. We've exported that hatred.

When I lived in Mexico I was horrified by the bigotry against Blacks. And it's not like the world treats Africa as if it were full of equal world citizens.

And I am keeping to the subject at hand. It sounds like you're apologizing for the bigotry against one ethnicity. I'm just wondering what other bigotries are acceptible because they are widespread. Turks are really unpopular in Europe. The Kurds have their detractors. I just don't understand why widespread antisemitism lets Mel Gibson off the hook?

[Behind the Aegis]

37. I saw your post as well.

I am actually alarmed that you are so blasee about this. He did use the term "Jews." So, you are telling me you hear people blaming Jews for the problems around the world?!

[jaysunb]

38. That's not what I said....

and you know it.

Neither you or I know what was said.

I live around people from every place on earth, and yes many if not most see Israel as the source or root cause of most problems as to war and terror today. Whether that's valid or not, it is still the perception.

[Behind the Aegis]

40. it IS what you said...

and I quote: "I don't know what Mel said. I heard what was attributed to him, and stated that those feelings are pretty widespread around here ( So Cal. ) and throughout the world."

This means you know what was attributed to him..."Jews are responsible for all the wars." To which you further asserted that those feelings were widespread in your area, and, in fact, the world! YOU are the one that switched back to "Israelis" from "Jews." I have yet to see one report that Mel said anything about Israelis or even the ME in particular.

So, to be very clear, you are now saying that you don't hear people blaming Jews, but rather blaming Israel for all the wars? To me, that is just slightly more comforting, but still alarming.

[God Almighty]

23. Gibson isn't an anti-semite. This is a distraction.

A drunk guy mouths off because he is troubled by what is going on in the Middle East. Remember the Arabs are Semites, too. Gibson loved "F911" and is one of the more open-minded, nicer people in motion pictures.

[Behind the Aegis]

27. Is this a joke?

Are you kidding me with this pathetic defense of an anti-Semitic putz?

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Mel is an anti-semite and his drunkeness outed it/him.

His father is a Holocaust denier. Mel was asked POINT BLANK if he believed as his father does and Mel did a very fine dance around the question. The media spin on it was, "Mel doesn't want to disagree with his father in PUBLIC." BULLSHIT. Mel just didn't want anyone to know he TOO is an anti-semite. His alcohol problem exposed him.

I hope he's finished in Hollywood. He still has a GAZZILION bucks to make his own films though. If he's boycotted...perhaps he'll go away and spread his hate elsewhere. Doesn't his family live in Europe somewhere?

[readmoreoften]

33. Gibson is the right wing, antichoice, enabler of his holocaust denying dad

He most likely liked F911 because he thinks that the New World Order is a Jewish Conspiracy.

[barb162]

42. He's a real case, isn't he?

He didn't mean what he said. So why did he say it?

[Warren DeMontague]

35. Okay, he just hates Jews.

Does that sound better?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. The Same Nice Guy Who Said

The same nice guy who said about gays that "they take it up the ass" and said the aforementioned orifice is "only for taking a shit."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Gibson

Somebody should direct Mel to mainstream porn. It's not only gay men who "take it up the ass."

[Neshanic]

48. Publicist's staff on line now.....

[graywarrior]

24. He's an alcoholic who has a problem with authority

and a smart mouth. Not that I think he's important enough to defend, but I do think this has been "a gift."

[jaysunb]

29. I don't know what Mel said.

I heard what was attributed to him, and stated that those feelings are pretty widespread around here ( So Cal. ) and throughout the world.

[AlienGirl]

34. How widespread would you say they are?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Why Are You Damning All Of Southern California?

You're entitled to feel that way but it's not very chivalrous to hide behind your prejudice by attributing it to others.

I just put my Filipina girlfriend who is Catholic on a plane back to LA and she was mortified by those comments.

If the comments are "widespread... around the world" she wasn't exposed to them in the Phillipines.

[blogslut]

31. TMZ

is hardly obscure. It's part of AOL and there are millions of AOL users

[cigsandcoffee]

32. Why would he agree to such a thing?

You can't tell me he has something to gain?