Al Qaeda and Republicans in cahoots.....SIbel Edmonds

[Postman]

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/is_the_turkish_.html

The FBI refused to investigate Edmonds’ claims, at least in part, because the contract linguist had discovered quite a messy scandal: the content of the mistranslated documents revealed that some very powerful people in the U.S. government, including House Speaker Dennis Hastert, were connected to foreign organized crime. Even worse, these foreign criminals connected to the high and mighty in the U.S. were also connected internationally, through the heroin trade and associated money laundering, to international terrorist organizations like al Qaeda.

....

people like Dennis Hastert probably were- and perhaps still are- on the payroll of Turkish ‘deep state’ interests.


....

As for who else besides Hastert might have been on the payroll of Mr. Baybasin and friends- we turn next to the Executive Branch. In an interview with Chris Deliso of antiwar.com, Edmonds hinted at key roles played by some powerful unelected officials-important Neoconservatives like Marc Grossman of the State Department, and Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, formerly of the Defense Department. If we hit the rewind button and go back to a CBS 60 Minutes’ interview in October, 2002, we remember the ex-contract linguist stated that Turkish targets of FBI investigation had spies inside the U.S. State Department and at the Pentagon in order to “obtain the United States military and intelligence secrets.” It doesn’t take a genius to conclude that Grossman, Feith and Perle might have been the persons to whom she was referring in 2002. Furthermore, the language specialist has repeatedly stated in past interviews that investigations into pre-9/11 terrorist financing activities were blocked “per State Department request”, leaving open the question whether it was Mr. Grossman, then Undersecretary of State for European Affairs, who actively hindered investigations into the Turkey-Bin Laden link.

....

Perle and Feith are an interesting case in this hidden scandal. Their consultancy, International Advisors (IA), has done extensive work for the Republic of Turkey, though it is questionable who is paying the invoices. Ms. Edmonds rhetorically asked the question of Phoenix radio personality Charles Goyette in January 2006, “For what ? One could imagine, hypothetically, that passing state secrets might be one “service” provided to the Turkish mafia/government by IA.

[blm]

1. Does anyone really believe that Poppy Bush and his gang woke up one day

in 1993 and decided to STOP running drugs, illegal arms trading and laundering money to terrorists?

See: IranContra, BCCI, Iraqgate and CIA drugrunning.

[glitch]

23. Nope. And like father like sons.nt

[BuyingThyme]

25. (1) Build prisons (2) Force drugs on black communities (3) Imprison Blacks

(4) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[midnight]

27. It is a money cycle that I can't quite understand.

It all seem like a vicious circle that makes no sense. How can this be profitable?

[BuyingThyme]

29. Barbara Bush builds the prisons. George H.W. Bush sells the drugs.

Republicans rule the roost.

[leveymg]

32. A farmer in Afghanistan is paid $100 for a kilo of opium gum

That same kilo, once processed into heroin, retails on the street for $14,000.

That's a slightly bigger markup than roses, olives or coffee beans.

Illegal drugs are a $500 billion/year global industry, the profits of which go largely untaxed and can be reinvested in a number of unregulated enterprises -- including black market arms trading, terrorism, covert operations and illegal political dirty tricks operations -- operated by BushCo Global Group, which in turn create the conditions that sustain Afgan poppy cultivation. Yes, a vicious circle.

One that's enormously profitable.

[Raster]

44. Illegal drugs are still illegal become someone somewhere is making

a hella lot of money. Need to finance a dirty war? Drugs. Need to finance a coup d' etat? Drugs. Need to conduct a shawdow war with expensive black ops? Drugs. It's the cash cow that keeps on giving.

[leesa]

42. Selling drugs provides cash that is used for whatever "illegal" needs they

might have. Don't want to write a check when you're ordering up someone's execution.

[soleft]

36. Have you read Michael Rupperts account on FTW?

[StateSecrets]

40. Article by Phil Giraldi, Former CIA stationed in Turkey

Link: http://thestressblog.com/2006/05/10/philip-giraldi-on-sibel-turkey-israel-the-neocons-and-the-mic/

Sibel Edmonds, the Turkish FBI translator turned whistleblower who has been subjected to a gag order could provide a major insight into how neoconservatives distort US foreign policy and enrich themselves at the same time. On one level, her story appears straightforward: several Turkish lobbying groups allegedly bribed congressmen to support policies favourable to Ankara. But beyond that, the Edmonds revelations become more serpentine and appear to involve AIPAC, Israel and a number of leading neoconservatives who have profited from the Turkish connection. ...

... The Turkish General Staff has a particular interest because much of the military spending is channeled through companies in which the generals have a financial stake, making for a very cozy and comfortable business arrangement. The commercial interest has also fostered close political ties, with the American Turkish Council, American Turkish Cultural Alliance and the Assembly of Turkish American Associations all developing warm relationships with AIPAC and other Jewish and Israel advocacy groups throughout the US.

Someone has to be in the middle to keep the happy affair going, so enter the neocons, intent on securing Israel against all comers and also keen to turn a dollar. In fact the neocons seem to have a deep and abiding interest in Turkey, which, under other circumstances, might be difficult to explain. Doug Feith’s International Advisors Inc, a registered agent for Turkey in 1989 - 1994, netted $600,000 per year from Turkey, with Richard Perle taking $48,000 annually as a consultant. Other noted neoconservatives linked to Turkey are former State Department number three, Marc Grossman, current Pentagon Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman, Paul Wolfowitz and former congressman Stephen Solarz.

The money involved does not appear to come from the Turkish government, and FBI investigators are trying to determine its source and how it is distributed. Some of it may come from criminal activity, possibly drug trafficking, but much more might come from arms dealing. ...

http://thestressblog.com/2006/05/10/philip-giraldi-on-sibel-turkey-israel-the-neocons-and-the-mic/

[leveymg]

48. The registered lobbyist for American-Turkish Council is Brent Scowcroft

Next to James Baker III, he's the principle BushCo Emeritus (Bush 41) go-to guy. He successfully lobbied Hastert to block the Aremenian Genocide commemoration Bill.

Text of ATC Chairman Brent Scowcroft's Letter to Speaker Hastert
http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_releases.php?prid=810



September 12, 2005

The Honorable J. Dennis Hastert
Speaker of the House of Representatives
The Capitol
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Mr. Speaker:

As Chairman of the American-Turkish Council, I am gravely concerned about plans to debate in the House of Representatives H. Con. Res. 195, a resolution “Commemorating the Armenian Genocide” and urging the Government of Turkey to acknowledge the culpability of Ottoman Turks for it, and H. Res. 316, a resolution recognizing claims of “genocide” of Armenians by Ottoman Turks. Together with ATC’s members, I strongly urge opposition to these resolutions and suggest that floor deliberation of them would be counter-productive to the interest of the United States.

SNIP

Scowcroft is also on the Board of GlobalSec Nine, a Northern Virginia Carlyle Group clone. This is what the Center for Public Integrity has to say about these defense-industry private equity firms: www.publicintegrity.org/pns/report.aspx?aid=425

More than a half dozen companies are now following in the footsteps of Carlyle by signing up former high-ranking government and military officials as they try to make inroads into the Pentagon and the newly-created Homeland Security contracting business.

The blue-chip political talent these private equity firms have lured include five of the past nine defense secretaries, two secretaries of state, two national security chiefs, two CIA directors and dozens of distinguished retired military officials.

Veritas Capital Management is the 41st largest defense contractor and second only to the Carlyle Group among private equity firms. Though Veritas doesn't have any marquee former politicians in its ranks, its roster includes Adm. Joseph W. Prueher, ex-commander-in-chief of the U.S. Pacific Command and former U.S. ambassador to China; Gulf War I veteran and former U.S. Southern Command chief Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey; former commander-in-chief of Allied Forces in Southern Europe Admiral Leighton W. ("Snuffy") Smith; former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command Gen. Anthony C. Zinni; and Gen. Richard E. Hawley, former commander of Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base, Va.

The companies it has invested in have been very successful in bagging defense contracts, with nine of them winning Pentagon deals since 1998. More than 70 percent of the firm's contracts were brought in by Vertex Aerospace (formerly Raytheon Aerospace, part of the Raytheon Corp.), which provides aviation and aerospace technical services to the Pentagon and other branches of the U.S. government. Veritas sold Vertex in December 2003.

Unlike the Carlyle Group, which has reduced its investments in the defense sector, Veritas is still investing heavily. Last July it bought a majority stake in Springfield, Va.-based McNeil Technologies, which provides translation services to the Defense Department and intelligence agencies, among others. Primarily catering to the national security market, the bulk of McNeil's more than 1,000 employees have security clearances.

New entrants
In the past three months alone, two new venture partnerships have been formed, with hundreds of millions in funds, to invest in the national security market. Former Pentagon leaders, both civilian and uniformed, are at the center of both efforts.

Last August, former Defense Secretary William Cohen disclosed his plan to form a merchant banking firm, TCG Financial Partners, to invest in defense companies. Cohen, who heads The Cohen Group, a consultancy in Washington, D.C., hired a top investment banker from Bank of America to head the new private equity firm, which aims to raise $300 million. According to news reports, the ex-Pentagon chief will also employ Gen. Joseph Ralston, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe until last year, and former NATO Secretary General George Robertson.

In September, Bear Stearns Merchant Banking, the private equity arm of investment banking and securities trader Bear Stearns, entered into an alliance with GlobeSecNine, a little-known private equity group headquartered just a few miles from the Pentagon in Arlington, Va.

Bear Stearns Merchant Banking, which manages $1.5 billion, has earmarked $300 million to invest in national security-related companies, while GlobeSecNine has connections to the country's defense and national security establishment. David C. Miller Jr., one of GlobeSecNine's founders, was a special assistant to President George H.W. Bush for counter-terrorism and counter-narcotics. Gregory S. Newbold, another founding member of the firm, served as director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff before he retired in 2002.

GlobeSecNine's board of directors includes John Lawn, Drug Enforcement Administration chief under Presidents Reagan and the first Bush, and Gen. Al Gray, a former commandant of the Marine Corps and former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And Brent Scowcroft, who served as national security advisor for Presidents Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush, is the chairman of GlobeSecNine's advisory board.

In announcing their deal, GlobeSecNine and Bear Stearns Merchant Banking drew attention to another partnership the latter had formed for investing in the defense sector. In July 2003, Bear Stearns Merchant Banking teamed up with Giuliani Partners LLC, a consulting firm founded by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, along with his ex-police, fire and emergency management commissioners.

[Virginia Dare]

49. Scowcroft successfully lobbied Hastert.....

the horse head probably did it.
:rofl:

[Phrogman]

57. This is a must see people!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&q=9%2F11

Drugs and 9/11.

[SammyWinstonJack]

2. Gee, there's a shocker! Not!

[JuniperLea]

3. No surprise to me

I'm sure the FBI were in cahoots too.

It's like a horror movie... young girl goes to trusted adult to tell him all about the bad vampires, only to have her neck bitten...

[INdemo]

12. This is just part of the big picture...

So..does anyone think thhe Republicans will allow the Democrats gain control and uncover all this corruption?......

[JuniperLea]

13. I don't think it matters

I think the Dems will get in there and do nothing in that regard... it will be "time to heal" and "time to unite"... blah blah blah... if the Dems were really out to clean house, they would have stood up for something already.

[INdemo]

16. The American people have a right to know

about the corruption in the Republican party..And this goes far beyond everyday issues that congress deals with..The price gouging by the oil companies, lies about the war that caused innocent lives to be lost..the fraudulent elections..and the list goes on..Yes people have a right to know and a every single elected official in Congress is obligated to uncover those truths.
"A time for healing" Well Americans have heard this before ..And it not just the healing These crooks must be exposed.

[Patchuli]

26. Healing, schmealing!

Let's go for the jugular! Big Dawg couldn't have a bj in peace and none of these crooks should get their cake and eat it too!! Time to go for it! Yeah Howard!!

Edit to say: Yeah Sibel AND Howard! Where's the rest with cajones????

[femrap]

52. Big dawg may have been participating in the

War Against Drugs....that landing strip in Mena, Arkansas was used quite frequently.

Don't think that the Dems are 100% clean....as RFK, Jr. said: 95% of the pugs are corrupt and about 75% of the Dems.

It's We the People that need to clean up this mess.

[Patchuli]

54. Oh I think Bill's no angel!

And I wouldn't be surprised about the drug stuff. He's a corporate type regarding of his being a Dem and I do not trust DLC corporate people.

My point was just that I was so sick of having Clenis' sins (pardon the bad pun) shoved down my throat for years and I think we need to repay the repubs for their much worse doings!

I agree that it is U.S. the People that need to clean up Washington in a nonpartisan cooperation!! But no more repub majorities for a good long while!!

[femrap]

55. A really really really good long time! nt

[JuniperLea]

38. Oh, I totally agree

I just don't think it's going to happen.

[midnight]

28. "time to heal" and " time to unite "

And time to clean house.

[mod mom]

18. They have the means, motive and experience to throw another election so

the $64,000 question is why the Dems aren't screaming about the elections? Do they think that this time they will play fair?

[babylonsister]

4. Bookmarkable! nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. If this is so, how long after the MSM reports it before we start calling

for treason trials? Perle, of all people.

[babylonsister]

7. Before the MSM reports it?

[rodeodance]

8. We have read this before (at least much of it)-including HasTURD in-

volvment. the msm will not touch it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. It will go on the MSM, if we make it common knowledge on the internet.

At the very worst, it will take 2 years. If we're lucky, two months.

[jwirr]

20. Much of the MSM may be owned by international organized crime.

[stubtoe]

46. Whoa! Lightbulb moment for stubtoe!

of COURSE!

[Monkeyman]

6. Deep on the payroll Hastert

Remeber he stoped a genecide bill for Turkey. Thats one reason he will not debate John Laesch

www.john06.com

[Postman]

9. remember how Hastert objected to the FBI raid on that one Congressman's...

office, a democrat no less.

Gee, I wonder why he would jump up and down protesting that?

Afraid of a little raid yourself, Denny?

[cascadiance]

21. I think he was afraid of the power shift from Goss to Negroponte...

Hayden was Negroponte's man. Negroponte is rumored to have wanted Goss out. Hookergate was a good excuse for him to do so. Hasturd also objected strenuosly to Hayden as well as CIA chief.

[lovuian]

43. I believe this but Turkish Mafia is even a cover

for more sinister dealings

We truly have a sick government... It reminds me of Rome's decay...

[Kurovski]

11. Kick.(nt)

[AntiFascist]

14. K&R, how much longer can they argue that this "conspiracy theory"...

is unfounded?

[biscotti]

15. I kept hoping Sibel would find an avenue to get the

truth out. That snake asscroft gagged her from speaking out. She has been on top of the issue from the start.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. But... But... But... Denny Hastert looks so cuddly!

Naw! Can't be!

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/images/Allawi,%20Cheney,%20Hastert%2020040923-2_d09230s-thumb.jpg

[jwirr]

19. I just started reading John Kerry's book "The New War" regarding

transnational organized crime. It is written about the time of Ollie North and the Iran/Contra hearing so as I read I kept wondering what the connection was between then and now. This post seems to answer that. I wish there was an update on the issues he brought up.

[blm]

24. It was written after IranContra and after he exposed BCCI.

Al Qaeda was just forming around the time it was being written in 96 and published in 97. If I recall correctly, CIA drugrunning story hit around that same time.

It's probably the biggest reason why so many DC estabilshment Dems joined with the GOPs in hopes to keep Kerry out of office - he is the one person they know for certain would open the books on all those dealings.

[Bushwick Bill]

22. Don't forget...

"If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up."
http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

What a wise, intelligent, courageous, beautiful woman. :D

[rman]

30. kick for truth

[malaise]

31. I heard a report on MSMachine yesterday

about the latest tape from al Qaeda. At the end of the discussion someone said they're expecting a new tape from Bin Laden any day now. How could they know that unless...??????????
del.

[eomer]

33. "Ms. Edmonds plans to take petitions to the Senate Judiciary Committee

in the coming months to finally force full and open hearings on her case. She will try to do the type of lobbying that does not involve foreign bribery or ill-gotten gains. This will be the simple type of petitioning guaranteed of every citizen in the Constitution under the First Amendment, a long forgotten portion of the Bill of Rights. Americans aware of the situation can only hope, and do everything in their power to insure, that Ms. Edmonds’ type of lobbying prevails."

[Joanne98]

34. They make money off drugs four different ways....

Buying and selling them (the real kingpins)... Money laundering (washing the money as it goes thru the global banking system) The FAKE war on drugs....Investigating, arresting and prosecuting the little drug dealers and the addicts...and then in the "Prison Industrial Complex" Housing their CUSTOMERS and using them for slave labor making products for the corporations. See Prison Industries.

PRETTY SLICK HUH?

NONE of this could be happening if the FBI wasn't IN ON IT!

THE FBI IS A JOKE!

Oh! I forget the added political benefit of getting elected by being "TOUGH ON CRIME".

WAKE UP AMERICA!

[blm]

45. Robert Mueller was put at the FBI to cover up for the BFEE, just as he did

or TRIED to do on BCCI. Illegal arms, drugs, and terrorism has been their bloodforce for decades.

[fasttense]

35. This is what happens when you sell your politicians to the highest bidders

Seems the highest bidders are organized crime and they want a bang for their bucks.

[QuettaKid]

37. K&R

Sibel also thinks there is a very good possibility 9/11 was an INSIDE job. It is amazing to me this woman hasn't had a car accident or something.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706insidejob.htm

[lukery]

39. russ tice

this is OT - but sibel has just announced that russ tice has just been subpoena'd
thread here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1753431

[leftofthedial]

41. well, duh.

[berni_mccoy]

47. KICK! This lends credence to the LIHOP theory

And in the worst case, could be MIHOP. By messing around with these terrorists, the Repubs jeapordized national security. What happens to someone who ticks off a drug dealer? They get burned. That's probably what happened here.

[mirandapriestly]

50. Do you mind reposting in 9-11?

Or allowing me to? The welcome mat for Sybil is always out over there...

[happydreams]

51. Turk fascists "Grey-Wolves" (cited in above article) linked to US military

This is from the topic:
....It is clear the Baybasin gang and the secular factions in Turkey had a seemingly symbiotic relationship, with the government providing the traffickers diplomatic passports and thus free reign to travel around the world without fear of prosecution. Also involved in the scandalous Turkish drug running are the very notorious, Pope-killing Grey Wolves, a fascist organization connected to human rights abuses in Turkey.

This is from Consortiumnews:


....Duane "Dewey" Clarridge, the CIA station chief in Rome at the time of the papal shooting, had previously been posted in Ankara. Clarridge was the CIA's man-on-the-spot in Turkey in the 1970s when armed bands of Grey Wolves unleashed a wave of bomb attacks and shootings that killed thousands of people, including public officials, journalists, students, lawyers, labor organizers, social democrats, left-wing activists and ethnic Kurds.

During those violent 1970s, the Grey Wolves operated with the encouragement and protection of the Counter-Guerrilla Organization, a section of the Turkish Army's Special Warfare Department. Headquartered in the U.S. Military Aid Mission building in Ankara, the Special Warfare Department received funds and training from U.S. advisors to create "stay behind" squads comprised of civilian irregulars. They were supposed to go underground and engage in acts of sabotage if the Soviets invaded.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story33.html

[baldguy]

53. Anyone paying attention who has an intact brain

can see that Bush has done everything bin Laden wanted him to do - AND MORE!

There is a war going on - it's between the neocon/Islamic extremists against normal people who only want to live & work & love their children.

[whatelseisnew]

56. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been moved to the tin forum

&r

[faithnotgreed]

58. sibel quickly built up credibility

from the beginning she has been a straight shooter

there are a lot of residents in bizarro world but i will trust this wont be moved anywhere

[seemslikeadream]

59. kick and

Vanity Fair floats allegations GOP chief Hastert took Turkish bribes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4255768

Dennis Hastert's Turkish Payola - September Vanity Fair
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4431671

Sibel Edmonds on DemocracyNow ...Turkey may have bribed Hastert 500K...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4303373

What happened with the Hastert taking bribes from Turkey story?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4375770

US News & World Report - FBI whistle-blower petitions high court
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1679077

Magazine Article Claims Hastert Took Bribes (his office responds)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1678291

Vanity Fair: Turks Boasted of Payments to Hastert
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1674619