More drivel from Boston Globe's resident RW war cheerleader

[TheCowsCameHome]

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/07/23/chickenhawk/

This clown is just like Limbaugh, Hannity, and their right wing ilk - send everyone elses kid off to war as long as they don't have to sacrifice anything.

[graywarrior]

1. Ego-maniac.

He loves the attention.

[pooja]

2. Well, it would be nice if they could find someone who served

and thought that this war was a good thing. Right now the actions in Iraq are tumbling out and its not good. And now the world waits while we are on the brink of ww3.. armed now to the teeth with nuclear capabilities. great.

[GeorgeGist]

3. I must be hard for Jeff...

to keep all that false logic straight.

[Vogon_Glory]

4. Jacoby Doesn't Like Being Called A Chickenhawk,, Does He?

By jingo, Jeff Jacoby doesn't seem to like being called a chickenhawk, does he? He seems to think it's some sort of slur.

Well, Jeff baby, what goes around comes around. Remember when you and your fellow playmates were busy trashing the military records and patriotism of men like Max Clelland and more recently John Kerry, while beating the drums for the war in Iraq and covering up Dear Leader's service record and their mysterious gaps? Well, surprise, surprise. We humble proles, the rest of the population, have the temerity to believe that the military records of leading Iraq jingoists should be asked for, their credentials examined, and pointed questions concerning just how far they are willing to support What's-His-Name's Mesopotamian Adventure should be asked.

If you feel that such questions leave you and your fellow polemicists floundering in a deepening level of black ink, look behind you at the retreating wake of the Swiftboats, as the swells rise above your neck.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Very good post. I emailed him with my views, but yours are much better.

[Vogon_Glory]

8. Thank You, But I Doubt I'll Make Much Of An Impression on Him n/t

[Buns_of_Fire]

12. The man doth protesteth profusely, doth he not?

Yo, Jeff! Attentat!:

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Yeah, that means YOU, Jeffey, and your savior pResident Lip-Smackin'-Good, too!

[bluerum]

5. He is one reason I cancelled my subscription. I refuse to pay

that assholes salary.

The credit card information release fiasco pushed me over the edge though.

on edit: added CC bit.

[acmejack]

7. Obviously struck a nerve!

It isn't a slur, it is a very important point. If you are going to cheerlead for war, you should know what it really is. Not a clean sanitized version like an Audie Murphy movie like Jeff has in mind but a dirty foul pornographic horror which marks it's participants for the rest of their lives. Jacoby doesn't get it, that is obvious from his whiny piece where he tries to make the veterans look like the bad guys.

[SpiralHawk]

9. Jacoby is a whiney Chickenhawk -- and can't handle the truth

what a wimp -- just like all the other republicon chickenhawk: Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, and Dick "Five Deferments" Cheney.

whine, whine, whine. Pathetic.

Jacoby: you are a chickenhawk. Everyone knows it. Deal with it.

No amount of weasling and whining will change the FACTS.

P.S. Global warming is real. Get a clue, Mr. Corporate Propagandist

[Rude Horner]

10. His last sentence sums up the hypocricy

He says:
***
And whether you have fought for your country or never had that honor, you have every right to weigh in on questions of war and peace. Those who cackle ``Chicken hawk!" are not making an argument. They are merely trying to stifle one, and deserve to be ignored.
***

So he says that if you've never fought for your country, you have every right to weigh in on questions of war and peace. Hmmmm....I agree. But my guess is that if someone is critical of the war, say for example - Cindy Sheehan, that this guy is the first to tell 'em to shut up.

[SpiralHawk]

13. Who would follow a deserter -- who lies about WMD -- into an oil-profits

war?

That's what Jacoby ought to write about, not waste ink whining...

You would have to be a complete MORAN to follow a lying deserter into a war to make corrupt republicon oil cronies richer.

No thank you.

[JAbuchan08]

11. I sent him this response.

I'm not sure it is the most ordered, but...

If making this observation counts as descent into name
calling, so be it. The key characteristics of a
chickenhawk are that they support war, they have
never served, and they are "true believers" blessed
with greater strategic military vision than, Napolean,
Alexander the Great and Ghengis Khan together. A
chickenhawk then is not simply someone who supports a
war without having served, but someone who's verve and
certainty are inversely proportionate to their
knowledge and experience.
I agree that a person shouldn't have to have a
military record to express on opinion on war. I've
never served, but I don't think that disqualifies me
from opposing the war. I do, however; take some pride
in the fact that I am not a hypocrite. Certainly you
are not obligated to fight in the Iraq war simply
because it is a mess that you and your fellow
conservatives have foisted on your fellow Americans
through intellectual dishonesty and fear-mongering,
but it might make your argument seem a little more
sincere.
Having sifted through a variety of opinions on the web
and in print I've made a major discovery those who
most whole-heartedly support this war are almost
uniformly people who haven't fought in it. Even the
soldiers who support the war think that the civilian
leadership are idiots - for different reasons than
myself, but there are a few commonalities. Certainly
there are a couple of doddering former soldiers like
John McCain trying to relive their glory days by
foisting their misplaced patriotism on others, but
most, like you, are physical cowards.
A chickenhawk is someone who thinks they have a
special wisdom gleaned from John Wayne movies that
uniquely qualifies them to make broad military
judgements without the expertise even of a civilian
military scholar. They are hobbyists who fetishize
war.

[karynnj]

14. Someone hit a nerve there!

He makes absolutely no sense. Doesn't he see that a "chicken dove" would be consistent?

He also ignores that neither Lautenberg or Kerry called Bush & co chicken hawks until Kerry and any one who questioned Bush's war were called cowards and unpatriotic. Lautenberg was right to call him out - and the poster he showed in the Senate of what a chicken hawk was was incredible.

Maybe deep down, Jacoby is bothered by the fact that both Kerry and Lautenberg are heroes on a field that is important to him. Something tells me his "world" would be easier to explain if Bush had a silver star, a bronze star with valor and 3 purple hearts and Kerry had used him contacts to sit out the war. It's fun to know it likely bothers him to know (even if he would never admit it) that Kerry was a real hero.

[blm]

15. They are LESS LIKELY to go to war than chickenhawks like the neo-cons.

Jacoby is talking out of his LYING ASS when he claims that military men are more hakish - Colin Powell, Wes Clark, Kerry, Clrland, Murtha, and thousands more like them still believe that you AVOID military action in every way possible FIRST through diplomatic measures and use force WHEN NECESSARY. We know that the ONE military man in Bush's cabinet was AGAINST invading Iraq to the point where they had to LIE TO HIM, too.

Jacoby is LYING here:

``Chicken hawk" isn't an argument. It is a slur -- a dishonest and incoherent slur. It is dishonest because those who invoke it don't really mean what they imply -- that only those with combat experience have the moral authority or the necessary understanding to advocate military force. After all, US foreign policy would be more hawkish, not less, if decisions about war and peace were left up to members of the armed forces. Soldiers tend to be politically conservative, hard-nosed about national security, and confident that American arms make the world safer and freer. On the question of Iraq -- stay-the-course or bring-the-troops-home? -- I would be willing to trust their judgment. Would Cindy Sheehan and Howard Dean?

[kentuck]

16. He posted on DU in the early days...

As I recall, he was tombstoned... :)