Just a Ballpark Figure, how many people have died since W showed up?

[Philosoraptor]

Half a million maybe? Remember when people weren't dying by the thousands? Ahh, the good ol' days when I never heard of bush, when there wasn't a trail of dead people littering the landscape.

I wonder what the awful, bloody sum is so far, and I wonder what the final tally will be before he settles into retirement and the history books?

[Ian David]

1. Millions, if you include the effects of Global Warming...

Already dysentary and malaria are spreading to new territories.

And then there are all the Abstinence-Only Condom-free AIDS "prevention" programs.

30,000 plus civilians in Iraq.

How many dead in Sudan that we could have saved?

How many additional deaths from lead, mercury and asbestos contamination?

[ixion]

3. don't forget the Tsunami last year, that the US knew about, but

decided not to share the info with everyone, if I remember correctly.

[pooja]

2. Well on Bush's watch.. Americans are totaling pretty high...

Between 9/11, iraq war, afghanastan, katrina, hmmm 2 more yrs left to really screw some more people over.

[HamdenRice]

4. Unnecessary Bush induced death calculations: ....at least 250,000

3,000 -- 9/11 approximately(either incompetence, LIHOP or MIHOP)

8,500 Afghan soldiers -- Afghanistant war (would not have happened w/o 9/11)
3,500 Afghan civilians
300 US troops

200,000 Iraqi civilians -- Iraq invasion and occupation
30,000 Iraqi troops
2,500 US troops

4,500 dead/missing in Katrina -- after similar hurricane and flooding in NO/Gulf Coast during the Johnson administration, only about 150 died; some doctors believe the majority of NO/Gulf Coast casualties died as a result of thirst, hunger, drinking dirty water, drowning after the initial flooding, lack of medicine, exposure, during the week long federal non-response while Bush was riding his bicycle, hence attributable to Bush

Total 252,300 as a guestimate -- ie 1/4 million souls.

[Philosoraptor]

5. That sounds about right so far.

An actual fact based estimate, I appreciate your guestimate. The horror behind that figure is staggering to comprehend.

[Initech]

6. Somewhere between a quarter - half million

For one thing, I love when Bush goes on television saying we should "err on the side of life". Asshole!

For two, remember those morons trying to build a counter-Clinton library? They were planning a room showing the um, 70 (!) people who died during Clinton's 8 year term.

70 people versus........................ 250,000. Quite a ratio!

[rubberducky]

7. Uuuuhhhhhhhmmmm..............

Are we including Iraq, Katrina,911,Afghanistan,Lebenon,Gitmo, secret interragation centers,people who "dissappear,because they are not conveniant"?????????????? Of course we could include the people who have died of stress from this administration, people who can not afford medicine, people who can`t afford food or shelter, and people who have decided to join the "rapture" sooner rather than later. But, on the plus side, embryoes are doing quite well. As to your exact numbers, we are still counting, but I`ll bet they won`t be good.:cry: :cry: :cry: "Where have all the flowers gone"?????

[MissWaverly]

8. WHO estimates 160,000 a year from Global Warming

MOSCOW -- About 160,000 people die every year from side effects of global warming ranging from malaria to malnutrition and the numbers could almost double by 2020, a group of scientists said Tuesday.

The study, by scientists at the World Health Organization and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said children in developing nations seemed most vulnerable.
"We estimate that climate change may already be causing in the region of 160,000 deaths ... a year," Professor Andrew Haines of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine told a climate change conference in Moscow...

"These diseases mainly affect younger age groups, so that the total burden of disease due to climate change appears to be borne mainly by children in developing countries," Haines said.
Milder winters, however, might mean that people would live longer on average in Europe or North America despite risks from heat waves this summer in which about 15,000 people died in France alone.


http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60640,00.html

[WilliamPitt]

9. Let's see

3,000 + on 9/11

Plus all the undocumented illegals who worked in the WTC cleaning the place up, who were included in no body count because if their families declared them missing, the'd be exposed and deported

Approximately 5,000 civilians in Afghanistan

Somewhere between 50,000 - 100,000 civilians in Iraq

Nearly 3,000 US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan

All the people who have died all over the world from assault weapons, land mines, missiles, mortars and other conventional weapons sold by the US government to client states, guns looted from the fallen Soviet Union by American gun-runners, and, oh yeah, insanely powerful guns that the Framers never concieved of when they wrote the 2nd Amendment, which are readily available right here at home

All the people who have gotten cancer or some other horrific disease thanks to the denuding of environmental standards for polluting corporations

All the elderly people dying of heat stroke in NYC over the last few days because electricity commodities sales have fucked the power grid

All the people who have committed suicide because of despair

All the people who have died from STDs and botched home abortions because they live in states where contraception and choice are considered abominations by the churches and the cultural regulators

Oh, and all the people in places like Darfur who suffer and die because both America and the international community couldn't give a wet shit about Africa.

If you can put a number to that, fire away.

[MissWaverly]

10. There also fallout from the Iraq War blowing into Europe

and causing health issues