An idea to end the hostilities in the Israel-Hezbollah war...

[originalpckelly]

Use Shi'a Muslims from Iraq's army as a UN task force, with the mission of disarming Hezbollah. What do you think? It might be hard to dig up Shi'a muslims who are willing to disarm Hezbollah, but if they could be found it would address some problems:

1. Including Sunni Muslims from moderate countries in the region, might exacerbate the current tensions between Sunnis and Shi'a in the ME as a result of sectarian bloodshed in Iraq. This has been suggested so far because it would give the air of credibility to any task force assigned to disarm Hezbollah, mainly because they are Arabs. My idea gives the credibility of Arabs, but without the sectarian tension.

2. Including armed forces from other nations won't really do much and might result in Hezbollah targeting those nations for terrorist attacks. This is currently another suggestion that has been made by certain people in the region.

This force would meet the goal of the Israeli action, but because the units would be on the ground, it would not (hopefully) result in as many civilians casualties. Furthermore, it would not have the destabilizing effect that sending Lebanese troops would have.

The only open issues that remain, which would not be solved by this, is the issue of Shaaba Farms and the two Israeli soldiers.

In the case of the Israeli soldiers, it is my understanding that Hezbollah is holding them because they wish to do a prisoner exchange. It is also my understand that the prisoners being held by Israel were tried and convicted of particularly horrific crimes. The latter statement may be under debate, but I will consider it to be fact as it appears to complicate the situation not simplify it.

There could be a new trial for the prisoners being held by Israel, a trial by impartial Shi'a Muslims so that again it would have credibility with the members of Hezbollah, yet also have credibility with Israel. If the men really are guilty of the crime they have been convicted of by Israel an impartial jury should find them guilty.

I don't if there can be an solution to the Shaaba Farms claim, mainly because it is hogwash. Somehow someone has to figure out a way for the hogwash claim to simply go away.

[originalpckelly]

1. I suppose my idea was a bad one.

:-(

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. I think that only Muslims will be able to get rid of Hezbollah

so you are right there. It is only when Hezbollah has lost its support from Muslim governments and from the ordinary people that it will die. One way to do this, for the people at least, is to offer them the social services that Hezbollah has been providing, perhaps under UN auspices. I'm still not certain as to the movtives of countries like Syria in supporting Hezbollah-for any reasonable person would see that Israel is here to stay, so let's figure out a way to live with it--there has to be more to why Syria and Iran are fomenting this-could it be fear of their own people? If so, a UN army consisting of Shia may or may not be a good idea.

[BillZBubb]

3. Beg to differ, Israel with its current borders is not here to stay.

There will be continual warfare until Israel returns to its original borders. That's why Hamas and Hezbollah and the like will continue to exist and get support.

[DaveinMD]

15. there will be violence as long as Israel exists

its that simple.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. I'm not arguing the point

that borders will very likely be negotiated. What I meant was that the state of Isreal, in some shape, is here to stay. I think renegotiation of the border is one thing that might help solve the problem. Now if we could only get the hotheads on both sides to calm down for a bit.....

[originalpckelly]

4. Well...

I don't really see how motives of Syria would play out here. We do know Syria is supporting Hezbollah in some way, shape or form, however, I just do not see how we couldn't get the people in Hezbollah to put down their arms any other way.

[Lefty48197]

8. "...any reasonable person ..." - You hit the nail on the head there.

"any reasonable person would see that Israel is here to stay..."

Those nuts in groups like Hezbollah and Hamas have the ultimate goal of taking over Israel and making it a Muslim state. Part of Palestine, or whatever, that's what they want to do. They certainly aren't reasonable people. I'll bet that most middle eastern Muslims do feel that Isreal is "here to stay", but the small minority that is committed to the destruction of Israel is getting all the press, probably because the others are afraid to speak out.

"...could it be fear of their own people?"

Another good point. Maybe Syria and Iran ARE afraid that their countries will become totally controlled by the militants?

[Herman Munster]

5. well

What's Israel to do?

They leave Southern Lebanon. They still get attacked.

They leave Gaza. They still get attacked.

These people will live for nothing more than the total annihilation of Israel. They believe they were their first and the zionists invaded their country and stole their land.

They will stop at nothing until Israel ceases to exist.

So what's Israel to do? They either fight or they die.

[originalpckelly]

6. Is that what I was talking about?

NO.

[Herman Munster]

9. well

answer the questions.

Cause Israel will not stop the war until those concerns are addressed. And nothing you do or say can influence Israel until the concerns I stated are addressed.

As long as Arabs want Israel to be destroyed and keep up the terror campaign, Israel will keep killing Arabs. It's been going on like this for close to 60 years , ever since Israel has been in existence.

[blonndee]

12. delete-never mind, not worth it. nt

[Ghost in the Machine]

7. Just bomb the whole Middle East...

with bales of purple afghanistan ganja and bricks of turkish hash... "... cuz i've got a peacefulllll.. easy feeling..." :evilgrin:

[everythingsxen]

10. Now that is the most sensible solution I have seen!

Bomb the whole world with that payload!

[originalpckelly]

11. I believe you meant "bong" the ME...

right?

[Ghost in the Machine]

16. yep... bongs away!!

[originalpckelly]

17. NOW THAT IS FUNNY!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[rucky]

13. The Arab League is way underutilized

for matters of peacekeeping.

and they already have the infrastructure to bring in a credible coalition. They should've been there right at the Cedar Revolution to fill the vacuum.

[originalpckelly]

14. You see, you are actually interested in solving the problem...

not just bitching about it. Thanks :hi:

Many, and it is my belief that all, members of the league are Sunnis. This would not fair well considering the fact Hezbollah is a Shi'a organization. The Arab League has tensions with the Iranians, because they are not Arabs, but are Persians.

[originalpckelly]

19. kick for the morning crowd

:kick: