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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:28 AM Original message |
Juan Cole: What Israel is Doing is "State Terror"...... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. Stopping transport of missiles to Hez is bad? - I disagree n/t |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Who says stopping transport of missiles to Hezbollah is bad? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. yes and yes n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. THAT was an incredibly EVIL thing to say. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sad - you see evil where I see normal war - what informs your thinking? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. What do I begin with? |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 03:31 PM Original message |
Then put him on ignore. I did, and my life is much more peaceful. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. LOL :-) Peace be with you always. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
88. Deleted message |
madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
74. Can you see the post he sent you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Deleted sub-thread |
arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Are you joking? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Stopping transport is standard war procedure - no I am not joking. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Bombing humanitarian aid that is being transported |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. Is SOP the using of Humanitarian/Medical aid vehicles to transport weapons |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Actually that has been a practice that has been done sporatically |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Astounding. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Let me borrow from the "Top Ten" DU feature... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Can an attitude thats so anti-Jewish State of Israel it justifies killing |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Hateful heart? |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
86. Don't take it personally. He does that to everyone. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #60 |
89. Israel is guilty of murder and ethnic cleansing |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. so you support the neocon policy of "preventative" war, |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. No - and this is not a "preventative" war. n/t |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:20 AM Response to Reply #61 |
72. It's preventative bombing of transportation, just in case |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. It's not even that, it's a punitive war without justification |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. So you buy into the Cheney 1% theory. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Did he ACTUALLY say something along these lines???? I didn't know. -nt |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That's what it comes down to, that's why it is so incredibly evil. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Link? -nt |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It's an inevitable consequence of the doctrine of prevention |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Cheney's one percent doctrine |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. No n/t |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. But you would bomb all trucks in Lebanon |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Why stop there? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Deleted message |
leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. wholesale slaughter of civilians |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Guess us insane folk in the west are in need of better logic? OK .n/t |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
43. "us"? what "us"? There's you and 30% backwash |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. rman come over here and let me kiss you! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. you're welcome Binka |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Anyone with eyes sees it as wholesale slaughter of civilians. - n/t |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Do you believe |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. no - but I do believe I know the logic of war - 12000 missiles transported |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. How does that compare |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Was Israel in last 6 mo bombing Lebanon before the kidnaping/killing |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. They've been "kidnapping" and jailing lots of people,.... |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. The 12000 Missile Claim... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. The leader of Hez is known as a truth teller - he is not known to have |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. The "logic of war" |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 05:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
77. NOT n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. This school of thought killed an innocent Brazilian businessman. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. All early deaths are bad - as is the Brazilian businessman's - as is kids |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. "all early deaths are bad"? |
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whopis01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. "all early deaths are bad"? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. That would make it "violent deaths". One can die "early" of natural causes |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. Early is before its natural time - and is not age related - in my usuage |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. Everyone dies - it is the taking of a life before its time that is bad. n/ |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
90. You're a fanatic. |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Let's see - 2 soldiers were kidnapped, so therefore |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Simple is |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Funny, that's what Israel told us. That's their official excuse. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes, it is the proper response |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. that puzzles me too. they are progressive on everything else |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. They would presumably tell you it is because they are a democracy. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
78. And what's with DUers not seeing thru this?n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Killing civilians is doing Lebanon a favor. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. "We had to destroy the country to save it" (n/t) |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. I agree , also. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. According to Israel |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Yep! And if they're able to pull Iran and/or Syria in to defend Lebanon |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. All rational people agree n/t |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Glad to See so Many Rational People Here (nt) |
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CuteNFuzzy (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #37 |
52. A sense of compassion for others |
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DancingBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
20. Lebanon has been CUT OFF from any food/medical aid |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. and doesn't this sound like the prelude to an "ethnic cleansing"? |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. Israel, literally, gets away with murder |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Bullshit on that two captured soldiers excuse...... |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
40. I heard a Lebanese official say Israel had been going back and forth |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. one sides "defense" is another sides terror |
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MamaBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 11:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. At which point |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Poppy is now proud of dubby |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
41. I agree too.... |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
54. Amen, |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
56. mixed feelings in Lebanon about Hezbollah |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-20-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. Kick for an ACTUAL expert... |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
75. Coles hatred for Israel is very well known... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 05:57 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. lol! |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. no, read up on his constant defense of his rantings... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-22-06 06:20 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. I am very familiar with Juan's writing |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
81. It is a war crime ... a crime against humanity. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
82. ***PERMALINK FOR THIS JUAN COLE POST*** |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. The links seem to go to the same place |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. The general link in the opening post goes to the blog itself. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. aaaahhhh |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Here's how to get Juan Cole's permalink - IMAGE |
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