Trafficking in human fetuses used to harvest their parts??? Is he SERIOUS?

[Atman]

Just when I think the man couldn't be any more stupid, he comes up with a new gem like that!

[RobertSeattle]

1. Context please

[Atman]

4. Chimpy's embryonic stem cell speech...says he's saving the world

from the scourge of fetus trafficking. Does he just make shit up as he goes along?

[Karenca]

2. Just heard him say that.

I'm speechless.

[napi21]

5. Which idiot said THAT? n/t

[Karenca]

17. The Idiot B*sh. nt

[xxqqqzme]

23. the unsolicited massage giving,

trash talking, mouth open chewing, mouth full of food talking, imperious back turning idiot. Is there any other?

[napi21]

24. Ohhh, there are many, but I got your message. Thanks n/t

[Atman]

7. I wish HE was speechless!

With, like, a ball gag superglued to his lips.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Leetle Beety tiny parts?

[Warpy]

6. Please enlighten us as to WHICH IDIOT said that, please

It would be nice to know who and where.

And yes, it's one of the most ignorant statements about stem cell research ever uttered, and that's saying a lot.

[Atman]

11. Take a wild, wild guess

Do you know of anyone so stupid who would be getting live airtime?


W.

[Taverner]

13. Our glorious fearless leader

Das Dumbfuck Bush

[rodeodance]

14. Santorium. It was one of his related Bills that the Senate passed yester

day.

[electron_blue]

15. Bush said this. He just vetoed the stem cell bill.

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. He had a ceremony for that?

Just when I though it couldn't get worse...

[Atman]

21. He surrounded himself with crying, whining babies

Congress. He invited some children, too.

[Phillycat]

34. Post of the day.

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

8. it was a 'pre-emptive' bill--he said--

[calico1]

9. He is probably talking to his stupid fundy base

many of whom probably believe this shit.

[tridim]

10. That crap plays well in Jesusland

But not in America.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. First of all, they aren't fetuses

A zygote is what, two to four cells? And then it's a larger collection of cells-that is what they are talking about, not a fetus. We need to make a video showing what these cells really look like. I think that many think that what we're talking about are miniature Gerber babies or something. You can't "harvest" limbs and organs from something that doesn't have them yet. Geez.

[calico1]

19. Well don't you know about that secret

group that kidnaps pregnant women, cuts out their fetuses and then engages in fetus trafficking and harvesting for parts? :eyes:

[Atman]

22. Didn't you hear about the woman who awoke in the bathtub full of ice?

There was a note with the phone number of the local hospital. It said "Call this number quick or you'll be dead." That's when she looked down and saw her abdomen cut open and her fetus gone! I swear! It happened to a friend of my brother's secretary's mailman! Honest!

[NYCGirl]

28. They're smaller than the period in this sentence. NT

[tenshi816]

35. You're so right.

People need to know what zygotes look like. If they could see it was just a few cells, they might think differently.

I have some experience with this because I went through IVF three times before I had a successful pregnancy (he turned 15 last week). Each time I had the embryos replaced in my womb, we had the opportunity to see them on a monitor beforehand, sitting there in a petri dish. On my first two unsuccessful attempts at IVF, they were two-cell zygotes, but then on the third try one of my three fertilized eggs had actually divided into four whole cells (and I still wonder if that's the one that survived, the one who now thinks the laundry fairy picks up his dirty clothes off the floor and returns them to him washed and folded).

Here's what I think: I never produced many eggs so there were no leftover embryos, but even if there had been I would have had no objection to them being used for scientific research, especially if it meant saving lives. As much as I wanted a baby, I knew (and know) that a two- or four-cell zygote isn't one, whether conception takes place in a laboratory or the "regular" way.

Sometimes men joke about being accused of killing the "pre-conceived" when they masturbate and everybody laughs about it but, damn, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if that's not next on the right-wing fundie agenda.

Crazy times we live in.

[TomInTib]

16. The Science Department must be on acid.

What in the world are they thinking?
Just how ignorant do they think Americans are?
Ohhhh, that's right - we are that stupid. We'd have to be to let this go on for so long.

[Atman]

18. His very first veto...because it doesn't KILL anyone, I guess.

It saves lives and helps cure disease. Can't have that now, can we, you stupid ignorant chimp!

[liberalmuse]

25. I have an idea.

Why don't they just tag all our eggs at birth, and then start prosecuting us women if one goes unaccounted for?

[Atman]

26. They're working on the itty bitty RIFD tags now

Don't put it past BushCo.

[Wonk]

29. HP just announced they've got new ones, the size of a pencil dot, that

can hold up to 4 megabits of data.

LBN thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2395111

[Atman]

33. These won't be showing up in anything.

Oh, sure...they be placed in all sorts of things. But I'd bet we won't be told half of what their hidden in. Like your new National ID Card.

[WePurrsevere]

27. Human fetuses? Stem cell research has nothing to do with

fetuses and their parts.... :wtf:

Goodness, what an ignorant bit of pond scum he is. :puke: Hopefully there will be a transcript up on the White House gov site soon. I know a few folks that won't believe he said something that totally stupid without proof.

[muriel_volestrangler]

30. Transcript here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901223.html

"Fetus farming" appears to be a scare that has been put around to give the far right something to get up in arms about. A week ago, Raw Story couldn't find any evidence anyone was proposing 'fetus farming', but the Republicans were going to introduce a bill against it, just in case. A week later, it's law. Congress moves quickly when it has some partisan PR to do.

[WePurrsevere]

37. So once again the RepubliCONs are making a mountain out of a grain of sand

just so they can suck up to a base that is stupid enough to buy into this melodramatic and baseless nonsense. Meanwhile BuSh* takes a stand against real honest to goodness science that would actually not harm a LIVING viable thing and yet would help save lives of LIVING BREATHING human beings.

Goodness but these neo-fundie-CONs make me so darn angry with their pandering to the kool aid drinking base. :grr:

[spanone]

31. Trust me, he's dumber that we can imagine.

[anarch]

32. didn't he say something a while back about "human-animal hybrids"?

The man is completely unhinged. And really, really stupid.

[ellisonz]

36. Here's the line, I think:

"This good law prohibits one of the most egregious abuses in biomedical research: the trafficking in human fetuses that are created with the sole intent of aborting them to harvest their parts.

Human beings are not a raw material to be exploited..."

That last bit is so so so hypocritical.