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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:07 AM
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When you think of stem cell in political sense, think turdblossom...
Karl will turn this into a big plus for getting out their base. Just wait and see. It may seem like a no-brainer right now, but I think the Democrats are falling into a big trap. Just my opinion. Because the Democrats do not know how to defend their position, it will backfire on them.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:12 AM
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1. I don't see what the veto gets em
sure the lunatic fringe will sport a woodie...
but even mainstream pukes have more common sense
(i think.. or is that giving em too much credit)

I think there will be more blowback than points scored
for the all the Republicans trying not to get thrown out of office.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:13 AM
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2. No, he won't. This is a Wedge Issue that favors the Democrats.
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 09:13 AM by cryingshame
Stop falling for Mediawhore spin, if that's where you got this mistaken idea.

Only a TINY fraction of Bush's base get 'fired' up over this.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:17 AM
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6. ANd we should not assume that this fires up the Democratic base either
The Republicans will use this in the framework of the abortion issue. We'll visit this later if Congress does not override the Bush veto. I doubt they will, but they might, just so they can use it for an "issue".
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:13 AM
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3. Completely agree with you on this, kentuck!
From the moment Karl Rove made the announcement Bush would veto it.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:15 AM
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4. Why would a Wedge Issue like this, that many in Bush's so called 'base'
actually side with Democrats on, work?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:19 AM
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7. It's short term strategy to keep the majority.
For 'safe' seats, it's not going to matter. Need to look at those iffy House races.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:16 AM
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5. Karl will earn the emnity of his own party
cons like Specter and others aint gettin any younger.
Running away from Bush** is not an effective strategy--
everyone knows who let things get this bad in the first
place.

If this is Karl's best strategy, then Karl is in real trouble.

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