Wow, I think Pat Buchanan is writing the Israeli talking points...

[k_jerome]

on here lately.

Although in the very small minority, I support Israel and denounce the terrorist organization Hezbollah. I grieve just as strongly for all innocent civilians harmed in this conflict. The Lebanese government, one of Bush's proudest achievements, is impotent to stop these thugs, so Israel will do it, and civilians on both sides are the victims.

[EFerrari]

1. Self delete.

[T Town Jake]

2. Good post. K & R.

:thumbsup:

[patricia92243]

3. I'm with you, friend. n/t

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[The Stranger]

6. What are you talking about? Israel is bombing the Lebanese government.

[k_jerome]

7. they are bombing infrastructure that supports Hezbollah...

in response to an invasion of their country.

[The Stranger]

8. They are bombing the Lebanese Army, which is NOT HEZBOLLAH,

as well as civilian ports and areas of the country that are NOT ALIGNED WITH HEZBOLLAH.

This is in addition to THE CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

They have killed less than ten members of Hezbollah, according to most counts.

[k_jerome]

9. they are bombing elements that support Hezbollah...

they are targeting terrorist elements, regardless of your effort to characterize it otherwise. Tragically, civilian casualties have resulted, however, unlike Hezbollah, they do not deliberately target civilians.

Where do you get your counts? hezbollah.com?

[The Stranger]

10. Try to know what you are talking about before you post.

Where do you get your talking points? PNAC?

Israeli warplanes continued to batter targets in Lebanon today, killing 30 people, including 11 members of the Lebanese Army when bombs hit their barracks east of Beirut. Four of the dead were officers, and 30 more soldiers were wounded.

In southern Lebanon, nine members of a single family were killed and four wounded in an Israeli airstrike on their house in the village of Aitaroun, near the Israeli border.

"Hezbollah.com"

[k_jerome]

12. If Israel is targeting, they are supporting Hezbollah...

i know it shatters your anti-Israel rhetoric to acknowledge that. please continue to support whomever you choose, regardless of their deliberate targetting of civilians.

[The Stranger]

22. I can't understand your post. Words or syntax is missing.

[AntiFascist]

15. Ever hear of neo-liberals? They exist. n/t

[blonndee]

16. Isn't a neoliberal economic policy

basically what the "neocons" espouse? Globalization, etc? All that economic stuff confuses me. I have no education in that.

[AntiFascist]

17. I get confused about it too....

but you should check out some of the archived documents at the DLC website and its associated thinktank (if they are still available). Economic policy aside, the militarization plans sound very similar to PNAC.

[blonndee]

18. Hmm, okay I'll check it out

I KNEW there was a reason people call the DLC "Repub-lites."

[AntiFascist]

21. Here's a relevant thread from last year....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=11678#11689

[The Stranger]

11. Here's more.

Mideast Casualties at a Glance

-- More than 250 people have been reported killed in Lebanon and Israel since fighting broke out July 12 between Israel forces and Hezbollah guerrillas.

IN LEBANON:

At least 227 people have been killed and more than 450 wounded, according to figures reported by the Lebanese national police and the military. Among the dead are 20 Lebanese army soldiers and two Hezbollah guerrillas.

k_jerome should read this source

[k_jerome]

13. slam the MSM until they give me something i can use...

i understand. try to find sources that are intimately familiar with what is going on.

[NewInNewJ.]

14. Ya know,

there are two sides to everything. Israel was attack by Hezboolah , but Israel is
totally destroying everything in it's sight.. I hate war, and I hate Innocent people killed.

[AnOhioan]

20. Not according to quite a few here on DU n/t

[LittleClarkie]

19. Too bad that infrastructure also supported the Lebanese people

or do you think that they didn't use the airport much?

[k_jerome]

25. Lebanon could not exercise control within its own borders...

Israel will do so.

[insane_cratic_gal]

23. Invasion of their country? Don't You mean

Palestine land taken over by Brits and handed back to displaced Jews from Hitler? Lets not forget where some of the conflict lies. When did the Lebanese invade Israel?

Or do you mean invaded by 10 guys who kidnapped 2 guys and killed 8 soldiers? In return Israel's over reaction has killed over 200 civilians all for the "invasion"

You entitled to defend Israel's reaction, but I find it heavy handed and over done, but I guess they learn from the best bullies.


I'm not supporting Hezbollah, but I understand what feels like to have your country Hijacked by a party you don't agree with.

[k_jerome]

24. if you have a strong dislike of Israel to start with...

of course you disagree with what they are doing. i feel the same way about the terrorists they are fighting.

[Behind the Aegis]

26. Not writing here...but his views are sure welcomed here!