Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Someone explain to me why two captured Israeli soldiers are worth the

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:26 PM
Original message
Someone explain to me why two captured Israeli soldiers are worth the
lives of 7 Canadians , 200 Lebanese,and 24 other Israelis, including 12 soldiers? This pride is killing hundreds of people and that is what I think it is. Any other ideas? I am not saying they should not protect their soldiers but killing hundreds as the result of a kidnapping is barbaric and makes Israel worse than those who took the two soldiers.Both sides in this are wrong and should be condemned and Israel shouldn't get a pass because they are our ally.They seem perfectly comfortable in risking a world war to make their point. This is madness. They KNEW that They would be attacked in return if they did this.They also know they are the superior military power therfore they have a greater obligation to control this situation. Instead they blast everything to smithereens.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
1. Maybe that's why people don't respond.....
...it makes NO SENSE. And "sane" people always 'keep their distance' from the crazies (lest they become crazy themselves).

That's my theory anywayz.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
checkmate1947 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:41 PM
Response to Original message
2. My question
if they aren't worth that,,, then what are they worth???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Using that as a justification means every single man, woman, and child...
in the United States needs to be eliminated for what we did in Iraq.

There is such a thing as PROPORTIONAL response, rather than overreaction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
checkmate1947 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. I am not justifiying
I am simply asking, if their lives our anybody's lives for that matter are to sacrificed then what is the price, once you begin to lose the value of human life, you begin a downward spiral to valueing it less and less
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. That's already happened, even on this board...
So far I saw one post saying that Arabs aren't worth the same as Israelis, and another person said they don't care that their own countrymen have been killed(the Canadian family). So really, would negotiation, and/or, a small scale rescue operation have been that hard to do FIRST?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. I agree with you and I know deep inside of me that
life is very frail and very special, even the life of lower species. Every life has worth and needs to be protected to the best of the ability of those who are able to protect it. I remember years ago a "soldier of fortune" type I knew saying that what was different about the USA is that life wasn't cheap. He said that in other parts of the world it was cheap and disposable. Times have changed and I'm sure he is long dead, but his words stick with me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. "Both sides in this are wrong and should be condemned..." That's..........
....among the more fair comments I've seen on the whole issue and is certainly the truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
5. And when you add the two captured soldiers were in Lebanon at the time
they were caught, it is making no sense at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. That's been thoroughly enough refuted.
Like the Israeli Embassy in London was warned ahead of time by 7/7. Or no Jews were in the WTC.

Hey! It was in a newspaper, it *must* be true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Well then where is the REFUTE
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. Pretty much any newspaper or
tv broadcast relying on AP/Reuters accounts posted more than 12 hours after the event. You have access to dogpile as well as I do.

I don't know if you have a star (I certainly don't), but enough of a variety of links have been posted on DU that a DU search would do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. When enough people in Lebanon ask why
retaining the 2 soldiers is worth all the bloodshed, there may be some progress.

So far, all the news seems to be that Lebanese Shi'ites are wondering what the big deal is, actually wanting the release of the captives and stopping the bombs from falling in Israel in peacetime.

Hezbollah probably didn't know it would be this bad. But at this point, if Israel stops, Hezbollah will come back more powerful, and control more in Lebanon, and rearm. When it rearms, it will be in a stronger position to try to kill more Israelis.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. How about when the Israeli people ask their leaders
why are you killing kids on both side for these soldiers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:06 PM
Response to Original message
10. Because they've been planning this military action for years
Whether they should plan these type of things, I don't know. It's a state, and that's what states do. When you have standing armies, they're going to be used eventually.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC