Well....either Larry O'Donnell was "paid" or "scared off" or he's telling

[KoKo]

the Truth...Wilson's have "little chance." O'Donnell seems to feel it's "DOA." :-(

Glad to see Keith(KO) will pump this in the coming weeks with Wilson's Lawyers and otheres...but..it's hard to not counter Larry O'Donnell.

I have to turn it off now...my constitution is too fragile for more...

[LA lady]

1. I am reading that everywhere

All the crazy right wing blogs are HAPPY about this! WTF??

[CatWoman]

14. you know why?

because they all believe that stupid "Wilson outed his own wife" line, among other myths.

[rusty charly]

2. i'll go with john dean, for now

[KoKo]

4. Yeah.......toss the "First Spin which is Right Wing" and "hang in there."

I gotcha.....

[creeksneakers2]

3. Depositions are wonderful things in themselves n/t

[flyarm]

5. odonnell is a writer producer with no tv series anymore..l

so is Larry shopping a new series to NBC??????????????

hmmmmmmmmmm

fly

[Patsy Stone]

9. Mama Fly!

:loveya: I just posted in the KOEB that he must have a contract writing a RW show this season.

ed: brevity

[flyarm]

17. heyyy ms patsy...i would bet on it..wanna bet he has a tv pilot

ready to shoot?? or shop??

i would make that bet!!

hi honey, sweetie!!!!!!!!!:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

fly

[Quakerfriend]

6. My thoughts exactly about Larry. I used to like him.

For him to try to say that the Wilsons could not possibly 'fear for their life' because, after all, they've allowed their photos to go out to the public is just pathetic. Of course, Valerie, feared for her life WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE! Jeez! I wish Keith had mentioned the number of agents that were thought to have died as a result of the Wilson/BrewsterJennings outing (I have heard 90+).

[fearthem]

7. John Dean is an attorney, Lawrece O'Donnel is not

[KoKo]

8. Yes....I'll go with John Dean on this one...he has some very good

experience.

[jean]

11. I missed Dean's comments ... what is his opinion?

[KoKo]

21. What John Dean urged before Fitz was given SC Status was for Wilson's

to go for a "Civil Suit." It's on the "Find Law" Site...way back in 2003 (sorry, I don't have the link) but Dean urged Wilson's not to wait for a Special Counsel like Fitz (it was before Fitz was appointed) in that he said a "Civil Suit" would allow the Wilson's to have more "Discovery" and they could have more leeway to go after Bushies than a "SP" like Fitz would ever have.

So...Wilson's went the "traditional route" and Bob Novak is now laughing and doing "cat calls" at them for failure and MSNBC's Tucker Carlson joins in and we on the "Lefty Blogs" are supposed to "roll over and die." ....hmmm, I don't think so...but the "Establishment" makes it very hard for us....doesn't it. :-(

[jean]

22. Oh yes, there are obstacles in every direction. Thanks for the info.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. You beat me to it.

O'Donnell is an experienced political operative, but he's not an attorney and I wouldn't give a lot of weight to his "legal" opinion on the applicability of the Bivens case.

[SeattleGirl]

13. Exactly. I'll go with John Dean, also.

Besides, wasn't Lawrence O'Donnell addressing it from the political angle? The political and the legal are not the same.

[H2O Man]

12. O'Donnell was

talking about one specific part, not the entire case. I will assure you that the points he raised are so weak that the WHIG attorneys will not rely heavily on them to win the case. This is not a television show. The Wilson's legal team is very strong.

[CatWoman]

16. I rely on your intuition 200 percent

:hi:

[flyarm]

18. yep H2O man..and lawyers especially dc lawyers don't take

cases they aren't dang sure they can win!

fly

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

15. Until Our Side Gets A Victory....ANY VICTORY.....

I'll side with O'Donnell on this.

Hey, I want the Wilsons to win as badly as anyone here. I would be overjoyed if there was real and visible trauma in rove or cheney's life. But realistically, this will end as everything else involving our side ends. Not because I want it that way. Not because Anybody on our side wants it that way. But because it IS THAT WAY. Reality is stronger than morality. Reality is stronger than the facts. And Reality says that this country is becoming so utterly FACIST, that any semblence of Democracy is a mirage.

[Fridays Child]

19. O'Donnell thinks that points in the complaint are in conflict but...

...he should know that, as the case unfolds, such issues may well evaporate. He should also know that the Wilsons would not waste their time on a lawsuit, if they weren't on solid ground.

[Semblance]

20. O'Donnell is always very cynical

I take everything he says with a grain of salt. He's an entertainer, not a deep thinker.

[KoKo]

23. He kind of led us down a "garden path of optimism" when he posted

on "Huff Post" way back that more than Libby would go down over Plame/Gate, though. He raised expectations.

I should have known better when O'Donnell was a "FAVE" on "Tweety's Hardball" though. I shouldn't have trusted him even then..:-( But, other DU'rs like me thought he might have some "inside info" so ...sadly we "trusted him," then...then...then...