Ben Franklin, aged 300 today, trounces Bush boy in debate

[BurtWorm]

According to Bill in Portland of dailykos.com


http://feeds.dailykos.com/dailykos/index?m=2347


The Great Franklin-Bush debate...in 6 rounds:

Bush: America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

Franklin: All wars are follies, very expensive and very mischievous ones. In my opinion, there never was a good war or a bad peace. When will mankind be convinced and agree to settle their difficulties by arbitration?

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Bush Health care reform must begin with Medicare; Medicare is the binding commitment of a caring society. We must renew that commitment by giving seniors access to preventive medicine and new drugs that are transforming health care in America.

Franklin: Well done is better than well said.

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Bush: There is no "trust fund," just IOUs that I saw firsthand, that future generations will pay---will pay for either in higher taxes, or reduced benefits, or cuts to other critical government programs. The office here in Parkersburg stores those IOUs. They're stacked in a filing cabinet. Imagine---the retirement security for future generations is sitting in a filing cabinet. It's time to strengthen and modernize Social Security for future generations with growing assets that you can control, that you call your own---assets that the government cannot take away.

Franklin: Half a truth is often a great lie.

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Bush: The fact that somebody leaked this program causes great harm to the United States. There's an enemy out there.

Franklin: Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

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Bush: I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another.

Franklin: Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest.

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Bush: I'm not going to change my mind.

Franklin: For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise. ... When you're finished changing, you're finished.

Final score: Bush 0 Franklin 6

That's right---the guy with the cardiovascular system of a teenager just got his clock cleaned by a 300 year-old man. Now click here and wish Ben Franklin a happy birthday.

[BurtWorm]

1. My favorite exchange:

Bush: I'm not going to change my mind.

Franklin: For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise. ... When you're finished changing, you're finished.

[hunter]

2. Ben Franklin would be at the top of the Bush Administration enemy list

His phones would be tapped, his internet activities logged, and he'd be the subject of an unrelenting media smear campaign.

On Fox News Tonight: Ben Franklin, Man of God or Satanist? You Decide! This week, his diabolical experiments with electricity. Next week, we interview his long suffering family and, in an exclusive Fox News Interview, his "mistress of the dark arts."

[BurtWorm]

3. Indeed!

:toast:

[centristo]

4. i think all of the founding fathers

would be demonized by this administration.

Great post. K&R

[FreedomAngel82]

5. Oh of course

Their actions today where it concerns the laws of our land and what they stand for show how they hate the founding fathers and earlier president's even. So sad. On a side note happy birthday to Benjamin! I'm related to him through marriage. :)