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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:39 PM Original message |
Editor&Publisher: When Is a 14-Year-Old Girl a 'Woman'? |
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Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. She Was A Child |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Call her a teenager. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. She's a fuckin CHILD. If she were here they'd call her a CHILD. |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. And being a teenager... |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-13-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
64. My point is the media should call her a teenager. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's kinda like this. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'll go you one better |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. And she's a woman if she kills someone so they can try her as |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. So what, the attorneys requesting the gag order said she's a woman? |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. When Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped, they never referred to her as a woman |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. Priests molested children |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. her entire life was spent under the evil policies of the |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. They should just use her age |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. In her "own culture" she was an underaged girl, just like the U.S. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. self-delete wrong place |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. No, it should just be |
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MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. Easy answer: Never. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Young Woman Was Fine, Woman Probably Wasn't. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. I learned a lot about our media in the past few days n/t |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. In my edition of the Post, Partlow refers to her as a 15 year old girl. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. How about young woman? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. My God These Semantics Are Plain Dumb. Young Woman, Child, Girl, Teen, |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I agree, rape is rape. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. that's the argument the military tried to make by calling her 25 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. again |
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dalaigh lllama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
62. Not less culpable |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. as has already been posted by those who actually know something |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Yeah, I'm not getting it. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:11 PM Original message |
Abeer was raped and murdered. Military/Media is manipulating facts. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. If she was 5 and people called her a woman |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. No, it is not, in one sense: pedophilia---CHILD RAPE---plus the murder |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 06:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
57. Yes, that's right. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
59. it is NOT pedophilia. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Hello again. nt |
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miss_american_pie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
60. Technically it would be pederasty |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Not for the press it isn't. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Then why is the AP trying to hide how young she is |
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Bosso 63 (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 06:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. Details make her human. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. so at least it's not just us talking about this now n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. no, which is good. Reuters has it now. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. thanks for saying it all for me, too, and yet so succinctly! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. you are welcome |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I did just hear Amy Goodman call her a "teenager" |
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Benbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. Riverbend has blogged about this today |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
25. My daughter is one year older than this poor child, and she is definitely. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. She is not a woman!! This is just pure putrid state-sponsored media |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. According to the AP Stylebook, |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Thank you for finding and citing that. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Sure |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. yes, thanks! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Reuters now has her as a girl, teenager, 14 yr old. Write AP |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Reuters has always been more professionaly than the AP in their reporting. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
34. Woman or Girls...Rape is Rape and a Violation of one's Body ...be it |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. There are 2 things going on here. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. This is not just rape |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. ANYONE who STILL "PARSES WORDS" over this HEINOUS CRIME |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
36. Personally I don't think the age really matters... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. There are 2 things going on here. |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. It wasn't so much a cover-up as it was an attempt at |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. some of you might find my earlier post of interest in this discussion |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Thank you, bobbieinok -- that looks like excellent thread. nt |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. For gods sake, NO ONE- NO ONE HERE is disputing the heinousness and |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
52. and from the other side, the dark side, we get a sense of this: |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
56. in a few years |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
63. Last I checked, rape was still horrible regardless of age n/t |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-13-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
65. WHY are they even having this discussion??? |
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Bretttido (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-13-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
66. Age matters to many people and is an objective FACT |
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