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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:21 PM
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Poll question: Please place your bets and answer this poll:
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 11:23 PM by shance
Now I know most of us are feeling warm and fuzzy towards Lou Dobbs these days, but someone here at DU, all too insightfully offered in a post the other day what I think may be spot on.

Could it be that Mr. "Democracy's in Danger" Dobbs is potentially setting Americans up for an eleventh inning 'steal' if you will, whereby Democrats who are poised to smoke the Republicans in Congressional races in November, will be ruthlessly accused of cheating and ALL OF A SUDDEN THE REPUBLICANS WILL REACT TO THE DEMOCRATIC SWEEP BY SHREIKING ELECTRONIC VOTING FRAUD!! ELECTRONIC VOTING FRAUD!!!

Whoever posted this 'vision' is obviously a good study of how Republicans/Neocons set us up and then yank the rug out from under Americans. Don't know how long its going to take Americans. Maybe more bruised behinds from the yanked rug than they anticipated, but people need to begin thinking like these right winged media strategists work. It seems it's their job as a white privileged males to keep things the same, certainly the same for them, even if they have to cheat.

Those are my thoughts. What do you think? Do you think this sacred defense for Democracy by Lou Dobbs is legitimate and heartfelt, or is it questionable, or another joke being played on Americans/Democrats at large?
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:28 PM
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1. I don't trust Dobbs as far as my canary can throw him. n/t
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:39 PM
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2. I have never liked Dobbs
...I will never like him.

Interesting note....he once featured an American company stating that all products were American made by Americans. However, my aunt worked for that company and all of the employees of dubious citizenship work the overnight shift. Nice investigating Lou...:eyes:

Cheers
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:41 PM
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3. You said exactly what I was thinking....
A few days ago, I was pondering about the recent media attention to election fraud.

Many have been crowing about it for years. It's been blatantly obvious, since 00--and especially 04--that something is rotten in Diebold Denmark.

Sooooo...why now? Why are more media outlets doing stories on voter fraud? Then I thought...the Republicans know that they're frickin toast this November. Every polls indicates that the Dems will sweep up this November. They're driving all of these "election fraud" stories now, so they can sweep in and claim election fraud in Nov.

That's what I'm thinking.

Remember, prior to 04--when there were these little stories about voter fraud, on the part of Democrats. Supposedly, some group had illegally registered voters who had died, etc. This seemed like a planted story then, and I'll bet it was totally manufactured so, at the completion of the 04 theft, the Reps could say, "Look, all elections have irregularities and some fraud. Look at the Dems who tried to register dead people."

So I say....look for the pre-06 election stories that implicate Dems in voter fraud. They're realizing that they can't win it. They know that it's going to be so many landslides, that there's no way they can steal it this time. So...they'll try to make the election illegitimate--starting now with a propaganda campaign.

Who knows...but I wouldn't put it past the evil leech neoconsters.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:43 PM
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4. I more or less posted the same analogy a while back on this too
..that was my take on it as well, because the "why now" head scratcher got me too
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:50 PM
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7. I guess...if I was an optimist...
...I could think that the Kennedy article sparked the voter fraud discussion.

Kennedy could be a part of it. Also, BushCo has really fallen out of favor with so many. Junior's polls are shameful and heading straight for the teens. Maybe the media is just not as willing to kow tow to these thugs.

I dunno.

You can't help but smell a rat with these third-rate hooligans, though. Like you, I'm still scratching my head.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:01 AM
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10. I dunno as well, I'm quite tired of doubting everything these days
and am hoping there it is a genuine effort to be truthful and informative.
(oh my gawd, I must be tired, lol)
I've spent the last week being a sheeple...no news or reading about news.
It was nice.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:56 PM
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8. Was it you who posted the thread about this TS?
If so, you brought up an excellent point, I felt a poll was in order**

Seems everything's synthetic and manufactured in our fake news world these days.

Hopefully we'll be wrong.



:toast:
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:44 PM
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5. Other option.
Personally I think he is an idiot. Incapable of rational thought. So if his opinion swings I doubt it would be to serve in some conspiracy to overthrow the Dems.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:46 PM
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6. Good. Then no one can argue when we all chuck those machines
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 11:46 PM by impeachdubya
into the ocean.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:06 AM
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12. .
n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:57 PM
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9. Lou Dobbs is a person of very profound moral convictions, really
He is a Catholic, OPUS DEI, mind you, who quit CNN when one of his bosses started making faith-based jokes about him. He went through the whole complaint process, too. Then he geared up to sue, they settled, they gave him his job back, other terms were not disclosed (but he talks about whatever HE wants to, nowadays).

I don't agree with all his positions, but I do believe that his opinions come from himself. Not from the White House. I really think he's in a financial position to just quit rather than be forced to say stuff he can't get behind...
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:05 AM
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11. I hope that's true MA Dem. No individuals would like to see that more
than all concerned Americans at large.

We need SOMEONE who is honest in our media.

(Along with Keith and Stephen and Candy Crier*)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:18 AM
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13. I swear it's true. He has very high moral standards. Like I said,
my belief system and his don't jive on many, many issues, but he is sincere and steadfast. He's not gonna roll over on his firmly held beliefs for political purposes. He'll never think outsourcing and broken borders are good, he'll never be pro-choice, he will always be pro-gun, and if he's pissed at voting machines, he'll stay pissed until they are fixed or replaced with paper ballots.
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Vodid Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:30 AM
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14. Perhaps he sees the "writing on the wall"...
and just wants to position himself accordingly as a media person when the democrats clean house in the next election.
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