Drink milk? Buy a cow! (be open minded)

[uppityperson]

Don't buy milk in containers and then throw those containers away because that pollutes. Don't drink soda either because that is just sugar water which is bad for you then you throw the containers away and that is dumb too. Or save the cans and make them into something, like a cover for your airplane, or wind chimes. If you drink milk or sodie in bottles, cut the bottles up into thin strips then knit them into sweaters or rugs to put outside your entry door.

Edited to add: remember to be open minded, that many of us do things differently and end up ok mostly. So long as you try to not hurt people, not hurt things, do the best you can, no need to try to force your opinions on everyone. Peace to all.

[NMDemDist2]

1. I use the milk containers over and over, baby plants, wasp traps

fly traps, all kinds good stuff and when they are used up I recycle

[uppityperson]

9. how do you make them into fly and wasp traps?

I guess it is something like fill with water, but is there more to it than that? They make good chicken watering containers also.

[NMDemDist2]

13. drill holes just bigger than the beastie you are trying to catch just

where the neck starts to curve, put a couple inches of sugar water or syrup water in the bottom, hang from trees or eaves, bugs check in, but they don't check out

you can dump it, wash and repeat over and over

[Redstone]

20. "Where the neck starts to curve?" Do you mean the "shoulder" of the

jug, or to drill the hole in the handle?

Sounds like a helluva good idea; just want to make sure to do it right.

Thanks.

Redstone

[NMDemDist2]

35. I've done both. the shoulder seems to work better and makes it easy

to clean to re-use

edit to add, you can use 3 or 4 holes too :bounce:

they eventually drown in there

[uppityperson]

26. That's a good idea. Will try this fall when yellowjackets get hungry

they get nasty in the late summer/early fall because they lose the ability to digest the food they gather. They get it, bring it back to the (nest?) and are starving because they lose a digestive enzyme. Wild and nasty they get, I'll try this then. Thanks.

[Swamp Rat]

2. I'll stick to bottled water, thanks.

:D

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. SAVE THE COWS!

buy a lactating woman :D

[uppityperson]

8. see, the fundamentalist rightwinger anti-choice people are right....

keep a lactating woman around all the time.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. Actually you need to be pro-choice for it to work

if she has babies, they'll drink all the milk

[LeftyMom]

4. Animal agriculture is a whole hell of a lot more polluting than plastic

water bottles will ever hope to be.

[uppityperson]

6. that is why we each need our own cow, or maybe a goat

since most of us don't drink that much milk. Goats are more manageable and they can be kept in a smaller place and pollute less.

[LeftyMom]

11. That makes about as much sense as saying

Hummers pollute, so I'll only get an H3 and pollute less. Just as no human needs a Hummer (the SUV, gutterminds) nobody needs to consume the mammary secretions of another species.

[Johnny Noshoes]

23. Milk

"....nobody needs to consume the mammary secretions of another species." Which is why I drink soy milk or as Lewis Black calls it soy juice :)

[uppityperson]

24. I know. I do like cheese though, wish I had a goat

have you seen these, nigerian dwarf goats? They look like regular goats bit way littler. I would like one of these but am not set up yet. Someday in the couple yrs though. "Drink milk" came from the milk industry when I was a child, still pushing it but more people are not drinking it. I like cheese though.

http://www.ndga.org/about/aboutnd.htm

[Redstone]

21. Goats'll keep your lawn mowed for you as well.

Redstone

[Rosemary2205]

5. I really feel for that guy.

I don't remember who posted that thing about buying cases upon cases of little bottles. The gist of his post was seeing a place where a less polluting way of getting good drinking water might be available if we would just put our mind to it. His intent was to call attention to something not to condemn anyone. He was totally taken out of context and I really feel for that guy.

[uppityperson]

7. Perhaps using the word "dumb" was a bit pejorative.

I know what you mean and what he meant also.

[Tsiyu]

12. Well, I'll just say this

You are not always the most uppity person on DU ;)

But I think that uppity person was trying to make a point, if done in an insulting way, that is something to consider.

I did rec becasue I think we all need to think about the waste we produce, but never as a desire to flame or insult. We try not to drink milk, and we do re-use some containers, but we could do a lot better, and that's the important thing to remember, methinks, anyhoo! :hi:

[MissB]

14. Is this some sort of flaming spinoff of Redstone's thread?

[LeftyMom]

16. Yes. nt

[MissB]

19. Slow fucking day on DU when there is a flaming

spinoff about drinking water.

[Redstone]

25. I thought that thread had run its course...it's still alive?

I'll be damned.

Redstone

[LeftyMom]

28. Congrats, it's a flamewar!

Have a cigar.

[uppityperson]

31. here...

perhaps I should've stuck to watering my plants that are drying up outside. oops, ignore that.

[Redstone]

15. Ouch!

Redstone

[uppityperson]

29. sorry.

I don't think you meant it to go on that long, or be as insulting as people are doing. Just sitting here drinking a can of soda and started thinking of milk and the can the soda is in. sorry, got uppity. slink off.

[jobycom]

17. .

:spray:

:thumbsup:

:hide:

:popcorn:

[Wcross]

18. Hows this for an open mind.

Reuse those 16 oz water bottles, fill them up at home. Bring your own reusable bags to the grocery store- why walk out of there with plastic bags that will end up in the dump?
Wherever you go leave that area just a little better than when you arrived. If you see litter dispose of it, even if it isn't yours.
There is a bigger issue though. Turn off the lights you don't absolutely need. Keep the house a little warmer in the summer and a little colder in the winter. Dry your laundry on a line in the summer.
Walk whenever you can, don't sit idling in the Starbucks drive-through. Keep your vehicle tuned up. Combine trips, shop on your way home from work.

Knitting sweaters out of plastic is a thought........ I still have a lifetime supply of "gift" sweaters that I don't wear.......

[cornermouse]

22. If you knit, wouldn't it be more thrifty to unravel the "gift"

sweaters that you don't wear and reuse the yarn to knit something else?

[Redstone]

27. And stop mowing your goddamn lawn every goddamn week!

It doesn't need it. It'll be healthier if you don't.

Redstone

[uppityperson]

32. Buy a goat! they'll eat all that grass and fertilize it and you get milk

we live in a clearing in the woods, most the clearing is "meadow". My parent gets annoyed when visiting because we don't mow it. It started out with being too lazy, then realized that it is better for it to just grow tall. Finally it falls over. We keep the area around the house mowed for fire and spider issues, have a non-motorized push mower I found at GoodWill for $5. It works, blades are sharp and meet right to cut tall grass and I get to exercise too.

[uppityperson]

33. I get really peeved in stores when they want to put 1 packaged food

into its own plastic bag (if I get just 1 thing).

I put the veggies in a basket, they try to put each in its own bag. Argh. I don't know how they make recycled soda bottles into sweaters, but they are available commercially, some sort of fleece.

[rhymeinreason]

30. Our local organic dairy puts their milk into glass bottles.

There's $1.25 deposit on each bottle, so you reallly have an incentive to return them to the store. Here north of SF we are lucky not only to have Strauss Family Creamery, but also Clover Stornetta, which one of the first larger dairies to stop using bovine growth hormone.

I am old enough to remember the days when my mom would leave a note for the milkman (only if we needed something extra along with our standing order) and by breakfast the next morning, our dairy products were in the tin critter proof box on the back porch.

I realize that most large supermarket chains might not find it profitable to do the container return, but I bet Whole Foods might be open to the idea. I rarely shop at Whole Foods (it's the distance) but perhaps some of you who are regular Whole Foods shoppers could make a suggestion to their management about glass bottles.

Edit: Good grief. I was going to be the first reply post on this topic, but I went out to see why the dogs were barking, and by the time I got back, everyone had gotten snarky. However, the post about the wasp traps was really useful. Thank you AZDem!

[blue sky at night]

34. universal power of intention.........

check it out, you are right there.

[pinto]

36. Locking.

We don't allow copycat threads in General Discussion.

Thanks for your consideration.