Hey knowledgeable DUers! I need an answer to a question please

[Bluzmann57]

Evan Bayh is coming into town tonight to supposedly stump for the Democratic First District Congressional candidate, Bruce Braley, and I need to know, since he's got presidential aspirations and is testing the waters here, did he support the Feingold censure resolution? I suspect I know the answer but I need confirmation. Thanks. And being an Iowan, I know Tom Harkin supported it. I still have the snail mail letter he sent me about the very issue. The reason I want to know is because I intend to ask him about it, if he didn't support it, why not? If he did, then congratulations. Once again, thank you in advance.

[ulysses]

1. not sure, and I'm too lazy to google it,

but I doubt it very much.

[butterfly77]

2. I don't know but Bayh is a undercover republicon like lieberman,

nelson,nelson and others I can't remember their names.

[Joanne98]

3. I too lazy too. But probably not.

[LSK]

4. i cant find a vote on it

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_2.htm

Searching here.

[blm]

12. There hasn't been a vote on it - it has been left open and it sounded to

me that it was done purposely to keep it alive for any new revelations.

Since the hearings, Leahy and Kerry publically came out in support of censure.

[annabanana]

5. no.. he did not (sigh)

Well, Russ Feingold is sticking his neck out for us. Barbara Boxer and Tom Harkin have joined him to step out of line.

John Kerry, on Friday, was thinking about stepping out of line, but no, he looked at the other other Democrats, and saw that no one else was stepping out to stand with Russ Feingold, so he drew his foot back, and rejoined the Democratic formation. John Kerry didn’t want to be criticized for being his own man - not when there’s so much campaign money to be made for moving with the establishment crowd.

Hillary Clinton is standing in line. Joe Biden is standing in line. Evan Bayh is standing in line. Almost every Democrat in Congress is standing in line to defend George W. Bush.


http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2006/03/20/censure-out-of-line-2/

[Bluzmann57]

6. Thanks!

Great stuff. Gonna have to check out that site more often now.

[blm]

9. It's full of shit. The guy had no clue that senators were using

the idea that they needed to "hear more evidence" as the way to get censure hearings in the senate.

After the hearings, more senators signed on, but the important point for Feingold was that the hearings even happened.

[Mass]

18. In this case, you may want to check the date of the articles that you read

This article is 3 months old. At this point, the censure resolution has 3 co-sponsors: Boxer, Harkin, and Kerry (in addition of Feingold, of course), and a small number of Democrats like Leahy and Durbin have said they would vote for censure if this comes to a vote.

I dont think Bayh is part of them.

[ginnyinWI]

7. Yes, he will join Russ.

Your article is from March. In April he said this:

Kerry Once Again Joins Left Wing In Embracing Sen. Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) Call For Censure Over Terrorist Surveillance Program:

Kerry Said He Would Vote For Censure. NBC’s Tim Russert: “Senator Russ Feingold said the President should be censured for his eavesdropping program because he did not seek authority that Feingold insists is demanded by statute. Would you vote to censure President Bush?” Sen. John Kerry: “Yes.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 4/9/06)

I won't link to this because it is from an RNC site.

[blm]

8. That article is FULL OF SHIT - JK was working the angle to get HEARINGS by

saying he needed to hear the evidence before he could make a decision, and others like Durbin joined him in that, and THAT is how the censure hearings came about. That is exactly what Feingold needed to happen.

Several senators added their names to the censure list AFTER the hearings and Kerry is one of them. He said so PUBLICALLY on MTP not long after the hearings.


Save me from the idiots who write articles like that who have no clue how the senate works.

[Mass]

17. Kerry is co-sponsor of the censure resolution. You may want to update

your sources. This article is more than 3 months old. In politics, it is an eternity.

[Avalux]

10. Bayh did not support Feingold's censure.

Also, he voted "Nay" for the Kerry-Feingold amendment, but "Yea" for the Levin-Reed amendment. Bayh hasn't done anything that makes me get excited; he plays it way too safe.

[LSK]

11. i dont think there was a vote for the censure

[Avalux]

13. There wasn't a vote - he didn't support it publicly.

None of them did, except for Harkin who made a statement of support.

[karynnj]

14. Kerry, Boxer and Leahy have publicly

supported it. Even before he censure move by Feingold, these 3 and Harkin all stated publicly that although they understood the need to tap phones, Bush needed to do it legally and that they would work with him on that - but they all said that the way it was done was illegal. (Kerry was on many radio and TV shows in December - speaking about Iraq and on several he said it was illegal. (Bill Press and Ed Shultz are 2 I'm sure of on radio; On Hardball, Kerry was there the day it came out and he said it sounded illegal and that was late November. In January, Blitzer asked him when Kerry was interviewed remotely from Israel about Gore's speech - and he said he agreed with Gore.)

Kerry in early April on MTP said he was for censure and he has mentioned that he joined Feingold on that several times since.

[Avalux]

15. Thanks -

from what I had read, was under the impression the day it was introduced (March 13) that Harkin was the only Senator to voice public support. I'd hope that as time goes on, a lot of others would climb aboard. Kerry has be great lately and I've always loved Leahy. :hi:

[blm]

16. Some of them were only holding back so Russ could get censure hearings

and that is why they made sure to say they "needed to hear more evidence" before they could make a decision. That's how the hearings came about.