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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:57 PM
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We had a dream, what the hell happened?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:01 PM
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1. Somebody wet the bed.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:04 PM
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2. The answer is in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2371675&mesg_id=2371675

Apparently plenty of people - including rank and file Dems - believe there isn't a problem or that there is nothing worth fighting for. The world DOES look good to some people, I suppose. Just depends on which side of the wall you're on.

Examples:

A filibuster on Alito
would be a HUGH waste of time and energy.

Too many Republican senators support him. It's not worth the fight. Reid knows that.

Move on to the next thing. Nothing to see here, folks. Practice saying "Mr. Justice Alito."

*

Alito is the least of the US's problems.
Frankly, he seemed fine to me.

I am not sure why people are beating on this guy. What did he ever do to anyone?

He's Pro-Life, so hate him and be mean?

It reminds me of that quote from a former member of the Weather Underground, "When you think you have the high moral ground, you can do some terrible things."

It goes for GWB and it goes for Dems too.


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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:48 PM
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9. sounds like those quotes
ought to be from a Republican site. :(
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:04 PM
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3. people with lots of money can buy their dreams.
:-(

oligarchy
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:07 PM
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4. Too many people gave up trying to make the dream a reality
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:16 PM
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5. I quoted you at SpeakSpeak
www.speakspeak.org
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:38 PM
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10. Thanks, it came from the blog I had in the orig post - wish it were mine!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:22 PM
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6. The bottom fell out...
I'm at one of my lowest lows as far as hope goes. We need a new MLK to lead us to the promise land.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:28 PM
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7. greed, guns and
lust for control, and domination.

Brought about through fear, complacency, and 'the tyrany of the urgent'- Busy, busy now people, we don't want to stop and think, or excercise our minds- we need to be force fed through tv- and the media- 'brain-washed' to believe happiness is found in things, big homes, fancy cars, lots of STUFF and especially, .... money.... lots and lots of it.

After all 'we are america'. Where everything is for sale.


But while the fork may be piercing our flesh, we AIN'T done yet.

Not quite - a spark is all it takes, and we still have that-
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:45 PM
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8. the usual suspects still had some power, and we got complacent
too much navel orbiting and warm fuzziness, and too little attention to the very valid and correct discoveries of the 1960s and 70s, about how a cabal of old rich men and their lackeys and asslickers conspired to make the rest of humanity work for and entertain them. We got sloppy, they regained lost ground. Which they wanted to do with great deliberateness. It's called cultural war, and we lost a lot of the ground we gained in the last 40 years. That's the current state of affairs IMO.

If you ask "why, how could this happen, didn't everyone see that it was better ?", contemplate that the cardinal sin for a true conservative in America today is impeding their or their friends' freedom to acquire gain - their lives revolve around preserving and sustaining their socioeconomic advantage. Why would they be interested in whether the lot of the mass public was bettered, when making that happen involved causing them to get rich less quickly ? It's just like the shitbags from "Old Families" in New Orleans saying, "well, if you don't rebuild the city in the way we want (rich and white without all those troublesome darkey neighborhoods), we're _leaving_". We've been saying good riddance, and take that poor horse with you, for a while now, but of course they can't really afford to leave, on a mass scale ("Lifestyles of the indolent and useless - the exodus") so instead they decided to fight back (what Big Dick Cheney gets a thrill from as "backlash").
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:44 PM
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11. Greed, amorality, cynicism and apathy. n/t
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