Don't laugh - Let's Woo Phyllis Schlafly !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Phyllis Schlafly is looking for a suitor. She loves the pResident's stand on gay marriage and abortion. But, I just heard her and other wingnuts on C-SPAN and they say his stand (lack thereof) on immigration is a "Deal Killer." These people want the border protected, first.

Now, I am convinced that the GOP is comprised of three categories of constituents. (A) The Religious Right, (B) Redneck America, and (C) Greedy Corporate America. The pResident falls in category (C) - BushCo.

BushCo knows that Greedy Corporate America needs illegals to squeeze out more and more profit. There are thousands and thousands of illegals in Texas who walk eight days to get there, work for $25 per day, and send 90% of the money back to Mexico.

Many of the Republicans in Congress fall into category (C) as well. And they are backing the BushCo "comprehensive" plan. "Comprehensive Plan" is code for - insure illegals are still available to work for nothing.

But why does the immigration issue HAVE to be solved with a "Comprehensive" Plan? This is bullshit. There is nothing wrong with an "Incremental" plan. Schlafly said the very same thing - "Get the border closed, first."

The Democrats could develop a "Border Bill" immediately and call BushCo's hand. Kerry said himself, last night on Fox News - O'Lielly Show, that he is for stronger border security. Announce some press conferences, go on Fox, go on MTP, call Phyllis Schafly, let everyone know that Democrats care about border security!

Who knows, maybe we could chip away at the 35-37% before November.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. But I don't think this would translate into votes

Maybe, and only maybe, it would translate on a few people sitting out the election, but that would be all. Far too many of these folks see abortion and homosexuality as issues on which they will cast their votes, even if it is against their own self interest.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. Well, what it could do would be to force the Repukes to show

their true colors. They would have to ignore their big donors who depend on illegals (Greedy Corporate America) or ignore the Religious Right. They couldn't have it both ways. And anytime you can cause a rift and turmoil in your opposition- benefits accrue...

[Skidmore]

2. Schlafly is as hardcore as they come--to the point of obscenity.

Of the three groups you cite there, I would bank on B as the one to target, since the economic policies of this administration and congress hit them in the family budget. The extreme religious right is a death cult comprised of people who have their minds made up about the entire history and end of the world. Short of an intervention and deprogramming, which we don't have time for now, it will not be a sell for them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. LOL - Short of an intervention and deprogramming, which we don't have time

Love that line. Well, I agree with you, I wouldn't expect this to make the Religous Right into Democrats, but it would cause a clash between them, the Rednecks and BushCo sympathizers.

As for what you say about Category B, the rednecks, that reminds me of "What's wrong with Kansas" - the book about the irony that rednecks are hurt the most by Republican policies, why do they still support the party? I agree, there has got to be a way to capitalize on this. That's why I said we need to tout our Border Bill on Fox.

[Mist]

4. If Phyllis is worried about illegal aliens, she should know that FIRST

sue the companies who hire them. The border will always be permeable to some degree, but suing the companies who employ illegals would stop the whole thing faster. Of course, it will never be done, as the *admin. is firmly in Column C--CorpoAmerica, as LPYB pointed out in original post.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Well, I totally agree with that. To me the whole issue has two

causes. You can't make enough money in Mexico to support your family, coupled with greedy people here who hire them.

I don't think that a simple "Border Bill" would solve the problem at all. But, it could slow illegal immigration and has the potential to stop at least a few terrorists, maybe. Therefore, I can't see how introducing a bill like this could hurt us and if it pisses off some of the Repukes, more the better.

[Klukie]

7. I agree....

that the democrats should develop a border bill. If we ignore this issue, we will allow Bush to define it. There is nothing comprehensive about his plan. It should be retitled the "Exploitation for Profit Plan".

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. I like that ! I even think that the Religious Right are starting to

figure that out. What I think, is an interesting excerpt from eagle forum- why is Bush doing what he's doing.

Bush's dogmatic statement that we can't stop aliens from illegally entering our country unless legislation is packaged "together" with a guest-worker program is a non sequitur, nonsense, and untrue. So what gives?

Grassroots Republicans are speculating about explanations for Bush's behavior: (a) Bush prides himself on being a man of his word and he gave his word to Vicente Fox that he would never stop the migration of Mexicans into the United States; (b) Bush made a faustian bargain with the big-money guys who raised more political money in 2000 than all other Republicans combined in order to nominate and elect him president; (c) Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a "new world order"; (d) Bush meant what he said, at Waco in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico.

[unlawflcombatnt]

20. Exactly

Bush's concern, along with the Corporate Right, is amnesty for the employers who've been hiring illegally, as well as ensuring them continued access to cheap labor.

A border bill emphasizing employer prosecution and employer verification of Social Security numbers would greatly reduce illegal immigration. That is, of course, if the provisions of the "bill" were actually enforced.

unlawflcombatnt

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The economy needs balance between the "means of production" & "means of consumption."

[Totally Committed]

8. I'm NOT laughing...

F*CK Phyllis Schlafly. The day this Party "woos" her is the day I am convinced I am not longer a Democrat.

TC

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Guess it's "The enemy of your enemy is your friend"

And she sure is pissed at Bush and McCain...I'm just saying, let's capitalize on that !

Some of her latest ramblings....

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/may06/06-05-31.html

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Bush's dogmatic statement that we can't stop aliens from illegally entering our country unless legislation is packaged "together" with a guest-worker program is a non sequitur, nonsense, and untrue. So what gives?

Grassroots Republicans are speculating about explanations for Bush's behavior: (a) Bush prides himself on being a man of his word and he gave his word to Vicente Fox that he would never stop the migration of Mexicans into the United States; (b) Bush made a faustian bargain with the big-money guys who raised more political money in 2000 than all other Republicans combined in order to nominate and elect him president; (c) Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a "new world order"; (d) Bush meant what he said, at Waco in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico.

Bush's guest-worker proposal would turn the United States into a boarding house for the world's poor, enable employers to import an unlimited number of "willing workers" at foreign wage-levels, and wipe out what's left of the American middle class.

Bush lives in a House well protected by a fence and security guards (and he associates with rich people who live in gated communities). Yet for five years he has refused to protect the property and children of ordinary Arizona citizens from trespassers and criminals.

[Totally Committed]

12. I've MET the woman...

I don't want her on the same PLANET as me... let alone "woo" her.

She is evil, and insipid, disusting and reprehensible, and if she is pissed off at Bush and McCain, I say let her humbly come to us on her own... but "woo" her? Nuh-uh.

She is HUMAN CRISCO and she will NEVER EVER EVER vote any other way than Republican. Trust me.

TC

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Oh, don't worry. I know she's totally evil. But, if she can pull votes

away from Republicans - whether they go our way or at least make a repig not vote, then I'm for it.

You don't have to support her in any way, shape or form. Just make sure she knows that Democrats are supporting a bill to protect the border. That's it. Period Paragraph..

[xchrom]

11. she's not voting for any other party but republicans -- ever.

and she's not going to stay home from the elections -- ever.

no matter how pissed she is at mccain.

now -- would you please share some of the good drugs your smoking with me -- cause i could use a little vacation.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Haha ! I was just so amazed and shocked that she was trashing

Bush and McCain, calling immigration a DEAL BREAKER that I was trying to think for a way to capitalize on the discord.

I wish our Democratic leaders thought outside the box once in a while !

[unlawflcombatnt]

21. I agree

It's also important to remember that it would be real helpful if we could get some Republicans to vote for Democratic candidates, and maybe even change parties.

I don't hold out much hope for Schlafly becoming a Democrat, or even voting for a Democrat, but maybe some of her followers might vote for a Democrat. And the illegal immigration issue is just such an issue that might make them switch.

unlawflcombatnt

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[peace frog]

15. Convince her to form a third party

Appeal to her xenophobic nature (should be a piece of cake) that her country needs an American Patriot Values Party or some such nonsense. Let them run a fundie for prez to draw the bible thumping votes away from the GOP nominee.
Hey, it worked to our advantage in '92.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Bingo - PF

A third party in 08 is not far-fetched at all. In fact, many think it will be Newt. I posted an article a while back. Newt is waiting in the wings to step in (if my party does not support the ideals that most republicans value). And he is a hardliner on immigration. The problem was, when they did a poll that put up Kerry/Clinton vs. Newt vs. McCain - the divided the vote in nearly thirds. Much too close since, with election fraud we probably need 10-15 point lead going in to make phony results unbelievable.

[peace frog]

19. Newt may be waiting in the wings

to lead a third party, but that doesn't mean he would be their nominee for prez... too much baggage what with his past infidelities, sexual peccadilloes and multiple marriages. That kind of thing doesn't go over well with the religious reich wing, so they would be more likely to nominate someone a bit more pompously pious. If that person is well known and popular with mainstream GOPers as well as fundies he/she could pull more votes from the GOP... making a Dem win more probable.
It could happen.

[bleedingheart]

17. No need to start one..all she has to do is join the American Nazi Party...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. HA. Can you imagine thinking that the Republican Party is too

liberal for you? Of course, I think the Democratic Party is too conservative for me...